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Is There An Unpatched CNW Unit Left?
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:36 PM
From what I've heard, as of October, there was one (CNW 8828). Did UP renumber that yet?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:52 PM
I'm not sure, I was `thinking that I saw one a couple of months ago, but actually it was 8828. It was parked in the small Longmont, Colorado yard on September 9th. Luckily I had my camera with me that day so I got a picture of it (unfortunatly I had to shoot it while rolling in my car).

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Posted by Nora on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:04 PM
Don't know about since October, but I did see this one in the yard in Altoona on July 3, number 8603:

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 6:54 AM
Nora
8603 was in deshler in spring 2004. 8654 was in defiance in summer 2004.I know i saw that 8828 too this summer because i remember posting about it but i couldnt get pics. hopefully the up paint shop doesnt find them too soon.
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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:52 PM
CNW 8646 is still out there. It was on an eastbound at Clinton, Iowa on December 21.
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:52 PM
CNW 8681 is still out there too...http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=2555 ...Enjoy, the fruits of my struggle...I almost had an accident when I saw it pull around the curve...then I cleaned my glasses...then I walked closer and got a better look...I could have cried.

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Posted by oskar on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:06 AM
CNW 8575 is still unpached it's probaly in FL or GA also 8575 is a C40-8 . I saw CNW 8564 back on June 12 dose any one know if it is still CNW




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Posted by wcfan4ever on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:17 PM
A trace of the ones remaining off the CNW YahooGroup:

CNW 8567 ARRIVED UNKNOWN HOUSTON T TX 1220 1229 UP A

CNW 8572 DEPARTED LOAD MONROE LA 1220 1648 UP P

CNW 8575 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN NEWORLEAN
LA 1206 1730 UP J

CNW 8603 ARRIVED UNKNOWN NAMPA ID 1220 0737 UP A

CNW 8637 RECEIVED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME EMPTY CICERO IL 1214
1226 BNSF R

CNW 8646 DEPARTED UNKNOWN MISVALLEY IA 1220 1542 UP P

CNW 8681 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN SAINT ELM
IL 1218 1236 UP J

CNW 8701 ARRIVED UNKNOWN NAMPA ID 1220 1352 UP A

CNW 8729 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN NAMPA ID
1107 1135 UP J

CNW 8828 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN SAINT LOU
MO 1213 1120 UP J

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Posted by oskar on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:25 PM
what's the date of all these movements




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Posted by Bergie on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:01 PM
If you read the Trackside with Erik and Mike Vol. 14 voting results story, you'll notice at the very bottom of the story I got a picture of C8-41C no. 8575 in Chicago (actually, Elmhurst) in late August, 2004. It was untouched at that point.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:16 AM
I resently found a list of unpatched SSW, SP, CNW, and DRG&W units. According to that list, there are 10 CNW's that are unpatched.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:01 AM
Well at least that's a good thing that there are still a few CNW's still around,Thank God for that! Because I am so sick of that UGLY UP YELLOW! My God!
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Posted by jwinter on Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:44 AM
I received my copy of the CNW Historical Society magazine yesterday and they report 12 untis left without patches, etc. But thie report is from September. So it may be less by now. The units numbers still surviving are: 8564, 8567, 8572, 8575, 8603, 8632, 8637, 8646, 8681, 8701, 8729, 8828.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:10 PM
What ever happend to the CNW GP50's?
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Posted by wcfan4ever on Thursday, December 23, 2004 5:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan.

What ever happend to the CNW GP50's?


Most of them were repainted in UP colors I think. A few of them may have been sold or scrapped. I think they were painted in the 900 series at one time but dont know what happened after the renumbering.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

I resently found a list of unpatched SSW, SP, CNW, and DRG&W units. According to that list, there are 10 CNW's that are unpatched.


How many DRGW's does the list have left in original paint? Is there any way you could post a list of all of the above companies, I think there might be some people here interested in that. Or is it possibly in a website?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:49 PM
I just saw the CNW 8646 behind a UP SD70M on a Westbound Stacker tonight going west just today! Un patched of all things. WOW!
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Posted by wcfan4ever on Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:53 PM
Christmas Day Trace courtesy of the CNW YahooGroup. Too Bad CNW 8701 is gone.

CNW 8567 ARRIVED UNKNOWN NORLITROC AR 1224 1435 UP A

CNW 8572 RECEIVED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME LOAD MEMPHIS TN 1223 1630 CSXT R

CNW 8575 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN NEWORLEAN LA 1206 1730
UP J

CNW 8603 ARRIVED UNKNOWN NORPLAEAS NE 1223 2022 UP A

CNW 8637 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME EMPTY EAST SAIN IL 1223 0628
BNSF J

CNW 8646 ARRIVED UNKNOWN ROCSPRING WY 1224 1900 UP A

CNW 8681 RECEIVED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME LOAD CHICAGO IL 1222 1359 CSXT R

CNW 8701 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN NAMPA ID 1221 0500 UP J
*** Patched - LAST TRACE FOR 8701

CNW 8729 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN NAMPA ID 1107 1135 UP J

CNW 8828 DEPARTED UNKNOWN SOUMORRIL NE 1224 2212 UP P

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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan.

What ever happend to the CNW GP50's?

According to a my Union Pacific Locomotive Directory 2003-2004 I have, all the ex-CNW GP50's were retired by the UP in late 2002. There are some ex-MP GP50's still around.
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Posted by ericsp on Saturday, December 25, 2004 9:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by corailfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

I resently found a list of unpatched SSW, SP, CNW, and DRG&W units. According to that list, there are 10 CNW's that are unpatched.


How many DRGW's does the list have left in original paint? Is there any way you could post a list of all of the above companies, I think there might be some people here interested in that. Or is it possibly in a website?

UP's automobile tracing lists the following locomotives as "No public trace information available" as opposed to "Not in equipment register"

DRGW 3086 (SP paint), 3096, 3097, 3100, 3103, 3105, 3109, 3110, 3111, 3114, 3117, 3118, 3121, 3126, 3128, 3129, 5368 (SP paint), 5371, 5390, 5401, 5503, and 5507

SP 100, 101, 105, 106, 107, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 116, 117, 118, 119, 122, 123, 125, 126, 129, 130, 131, 133, 134, 139, 140, 141, 144, 146, 147, 149, 151, 153, 154, 155, 158, 160, 161, 163, 164, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 173, 174, 177, 179, 180, 182, 183, 186, 187, 188, 192, 194, 196, 197, 199, 203, 204, 205, 206, 208, 215, 222, 229, 232, 239, 248, 251, 257, 258, 259, 266, 267, 268, 272, 281, 285, 301, 303, 309, 317, 319, 324, 327, 329, 330, 332, 334, 335, 338, 343, 347, 349, 352, 354, 355, 356, 358, 359, 364, 365, 368, 373, 375, 377, 2457, 2475, 2538, 2547, 2688, 2690, 2756, 4801, 4850, 4854, 4859, 4860, 4862, 4864, 4869, 5101, 5110, 5111, 7100, 7102, 7103, 7104, 7105, 7110, 7117, 7125, 7126, 7128, 7131, 7133, 7135, 7136, 7137, 7299, 7609, 7615, 7617, 7619, 7621, 7622, 7666, 7674, 7675, 7789, 7803, 7828, 7829, 7840, 7861, 7862, 7869, 7942, 7954, 7956, 7965, 8231, 8240, 8268, 8283, 8292, 8293, 8503, 8529, 8571, 8576, 8577, 8578, 8579, 8580, 8584, 8586, 8594, 8598, 8599, 8613, 8621, 8628, 8632, 8643, 8646, 8648, 8652, 8655, 8664, 8666, 8674, 8675, 8681, 8689, 8690, 8694, 9721, 9738, 9742, 9751, 9752, 9755, 9756, 9759, 9761, 9794, and 9802

SSW 7274, 7275, 7277, 7279, 7281, 7282, 7283, 7284, 7285, 7286, 7287, 7290, 7291, 7637, 7638, 7640, 7647, 7651, 7652, 7655, 7962, 9641, 9642, 9647, 9652, 9653, 9656, 9666, 9669, 9682, 9683, 9684, 9685, 9692, 9693, 9699, 9701, 9706, 9708

SP 8673 was listed as not processed due to an error.
SP 7859 was listed as no record of it being on the system lines.

It seems hard to believe that 10 years ago SP/SSW/DRGW had almost 2500 locomotives.

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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Saturday, December 25, 2004 9:49 PM
CN&W 8567. Basicly almost all the eight thousand units.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 26, 2004 6:50 PM
QUOTE: UP's automobile tracing lists the following locomotives as "No public trace information available" as opposed to "Not in equipment register"


Where's this list? Sounds interesting.
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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

QUOTE: UP's automobile tracing lists the following locomotives as "No public trace information available" as opposed to "Not in equipment register"


Where's this list? Sounds interesting.

You can trace autocarriers on UP's website (it used to be that you could trace anything), it is for people who have ordered an automobile, they can get the car number from where they ordered it. However, it will not give information for any other type of equipment.

There is no list. You just enter the numbers. It is not interesting at all. I rarely visit it.

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Posted by wcfan4ever on Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:32 PM
Compliments of CNW YahooGroup:

CNW 8567 ARRIVED UNKNOWN NORLITROC AR 1224 1435 UP A

CNW 8572 RECEIVED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME LOAD MEMPHIS TN 1223 1630 CSXT R

CNW 8575 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN NEWORLEAN LA 1206 1730
UP J

CNW 8603 DEPARTED UNKNOWN POCATELLO ID 1227 2000 UP P

CNW 8637 RECEIVED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME EMPTY EAST SAIN IL 1226 1745
BNSF R

CNW 8646 DEPARTED UNKNOWN OROVILLE CA 1228 0413 UP P

CNW 8681 ARRIVED LOAD Q35127 WILWEST OH 1227 2035 CSXT A
*Was told 8681 is 2nd out facing east.

CNW 8729 DELIVERED IN INTERCHANGE ACTUAL TIME UNKNOWN NAMPA ID 1107 1135 UP J

CNW 8828 DEPARTED UNKNOWN TOPEKA KS 1228 0825 UP P

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Posted by Gluefinger on Monday, January 3, 2005 12:20 AM
Trace, courtesy of...er....me- I'm usually the one that posts the CNW Yahoo Group ones anyway...Anyway, its hot off the presses! In a weird twist of fate, CNW 8701 has reappeared in the UP computer!

CNW 008567 NORTH LITTLE R AR 12 24 1435 U Arrive In-Transit QLWNL2 UP

CNW 008572 WRENN TX 01 02 0336 L Arrive In-Transit MEGFWX UP

CNW 008575 NEW ORLEANS LA 12 06 1730 U Junction Delivery NS
UP

CNW 008603 NORTH PLATTE E NE 01 02 1834 U Arrive In-Transit
QHKNPP UP

CNW 008637 EAST SAINT LOU IL 12 26 1745 E Junction Received NS
BNSF

CNW 008646 EGBERT WY 01 02 1526 U Arrive In-Transit QNPFRP UP

CNW 008681 CHICAGO IL 12 22 1359 L Junction Received BOCT
CSXT

CNW 008701 NAMPA ID 12 21 0500 U Junction Delivery INPR UP

CNW 008729 NAMPA ID 11 07 1135 U Junction Delivery INPR UP

CNW 008828 PLYMOUTH NE 01 02 0846 U Departure GSPYWW
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Posted by ericsp on Monday, January 3, 2005 12:28 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Gluefinger

CNW 008646 EGBERT WY 01 02 1526 U Arrive In-Transit QNPFRP UP

I have seen those relavity short trains composed mostly of grain hoppers, with some ethanol tankcars, and a few empty reefers and wondered if they came directly from the Midwest. They always lacked all of the other cars that are common in the central and southern San Joaquin Valley.

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Posted by oskar on Monday, January 3, 2005 11:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Gluefinger

Anyway, its hot off the presses! In a weird twist of fate, CNW 8701 has reappeared in the UP computer!
CNW 008701 NAMPA ID 12 21 0500 U Junction Delivery INPR UP



so CNW 8701 was turned back into CNW





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Posted by wcfan4ever on Monday, January 3, 2005 12:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by oskar

QUOTE: Originally posted by Gluefinger

Anyway, its hot off the presses! In a weird twist of fate, CNW 8701 has reappeared in the UP computer!
CNW 008701 NAMPA ID 12 21 0500 U Junction Delivery INPR UP



so CNW 8701 was turned back into CNW

kevin


COOL! I like UP's new way of renumbering into the original railroads! [;)][:D]

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Posted by Gluefinger on Monday, January 3, 2005 11:07 PM
New way of renumbering into the original railroads?

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