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When Mainstream Media Picks the Wrong Train Pic
Posted by Bruce Kelly on Monday, February 20, 2017 2:31 PM

Of all the photoshopped and/or mis-chosen images I've seen with a mainstream news story on railroading, this one has to be near the top of the list:

https://financialtribune.com/articles/economy-domestic-economy/59974/exports-via-railroad-up-55-percent

 

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, February 20, 2017 2:43 PM

Are you saying that Iran does not use locomotives painted  Armour Yellow? Nor does Iran run double stacks?[:)

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, February 20, 2017 2:49 PM

Deggesty
Are you saying that Iran does not use locomotives painted  Armour Yellow?

When I call it up, they look like "warbonnets," both silver and blue.

At least it wasn't a picture of NKP756 or any other such nonsense.

I hate it when publishers (especially kids books) use European prototypes for a book clearly focussed on this side of the pond...

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, February 20, 2017 2:52 PM

Chico's railroad Johnny (not too far outa Flagstaff), the yellow peril not involved here...Typical newsworkers at it again. (think all you find made by EMD there is of the export version)

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Monday, February 20, 2017 2:54 PM

Bruce, I have to agree - although I think the "FINANCIAL TRIBUNE - First Iranian English Economic Daily" hardly qualifies as "mainstream" media . . .  But after reading it - what else can we expect from what's at best a news blurb, and at worst a "puff piece" of advertising ? 

Good "photoshop" job erasing the herald and/ or road name on the lead unit, though (first 2 look to be ATSF/ BNSF, but 3rd is UP yellow).  Note however, no byline to credit the photographer.  Mischief Maybe the reason they had to use a US photo is because anyone taking photos of a railroad in Iran might be shot ? (as it supposedly was in the old USSR)

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, February 20, 2017 3:12 PM

RailPictures.net has 169 photos of railroading in Iran

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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Monday, February 20, 2017 3:43 PM

The GP60M never made it to Iran as far as I know either.  It gets worse when it is anything to do with OTR trucking also.  Everyone thinks we are SWIFT or Schiender in pictures.

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, February 20, 2017 3:53 PM

(If the photo had not been photo-shopped, the mullahs would have come unglued. The cigar band of the grand railroad of the holy faith in the picture would have had those intollerant bigots lynching anyone with a camera.Mischief)

That's an SD45M bringing up the rear in freight warbonnet paint. 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, February 20, 2017 4:59 PM

mudchicken

(If the photo had not been photo-shopped, the mullahs would have come unglued. The cigar band of the grand railroad of the holy faith in the picture would have had those intollerant bigots lynching anyone with a camera.Mischief)

That's an SD45M bringing up the rear in freight warbonnet paint. 

 

  Bang Head Amazing what ideas must wander around inside the "Media-type" Heads, this sort of thing just leaves an 'average' Joes, shaking their heads. Sigh Seems that constantly foisting off propagana, just makes them think they can get away with any B.S. Oops

 

Makes on want to rush over to trackside in Iran! NOT!

Exports Via Railroad Up 55 Percent

 

 


 

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, February 20, 2017 5:24 PM

samfp1943
...just makes them think they can get away with any B.S....

Nah - I think it's legitimate ignorance.  Much like the "talking heads" on virtually any TV news program, today's print "reporters" just deal with what gets handed to them.  We're probably lucky they didn't use a Lionel train.

Of course, we're here speaking from a position of knowledge.  About 99% of their audience doesn't know any better, and would think nothing of it if they did use NKP765 in their image.  After all, they're a backward country, right?

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Posted by JC UPTON on Monday, February 20, 2017 5:37 PM

A LOT of photo shopping going on. ....

 

Take a look at the 1st 5 or more "loads".....

 

from the Far East of the Sunset Route

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, February 20, 2017 6:43 PM

Only on here would anyone get so worked up about trivialities.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, February 20, 2017 6:44 PM

Word of caution.  This seems to be a "semi official" publication of Iran. You might not want it noted you are going to that web site ? That is probably the lack of good file pictures as well.  

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Monday, February 20, 2017 6:48 PM

Why would anyone do such a neat job of photo-processing it?  Why not just blur what is obviously wrong with the scenario instead of working at obliterating the obvious road names and such in such a neat manner?

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Posted by rdamon on Monday, February 20, 2017 7:13 PM

The ill fated Pacific Imperial Railroad used this picture on its webpage.

 

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, February 20, 2017 7:17 PM

schlimm

Only on here would anyone get so worked up about trivialities.

Yeah, but it's fun....

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, February 20, 2017 7:23 PM

schlimm

Only on here would anyone get so worked up about trivialities.

 

Is this a defense of ignorance?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, February 20, 2017 9:59 PM

Honestly, I'm surprised it's not a photo of a steam engine with a cow catcher on front and a ballon stack. 

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 3:36 AM

After five minutes with google I found....

http://www.railcolor.net/index.php?nav=1000006&file=siem_21378_51&action=image

This is a Siemens unit from 2010 and looks a lot like an SC44 Charger (not surprisingly). It is indicated as an ER24PC, so is around 3200HP with presumably an MTU engine.

But it would be wrong to think of Iran as only operating old EMD export units from the era of the Shah.

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Posted by NorthWest on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:39 AM

RAI operates a bunch of interesting units. The ER24PCs are direct derivatives of the Siemens EuroRunner series ER20s, and have visible similarities with broad guage units ER20CFs built for Lithuania. I think more ER24PCs are being built for RAI.

The other modern diesel Iran has recently purchased is an Alstom Prima model, most of which were license built in Iran. They have tendered a repowering as the Ruston prime movers are apparently not succesful.

Interestingly, RAI seems to have recieved US-built GT26CWs and GT26CW-2s through 1984, though at least some of the latter were built in South Korea by Hyundai. They recieved a few of the Electroputure Alco-251 powered license units that weren't too succesful in Europe, and a bunch of Canadian-built GE export power. If the political climate were different, I'd love to visit.

A good summary: http://www.railfaneurope.net/list/iran/iran_rai.html

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:47 AM

I keep hoping someone will find the original "unedited" photo!

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:35 PM

NorthWest

The other modern diesel Iran has recently purchased is an Alstom Prima model, most of which were license built in Iran. They have tendered a repowering as the Ruston prime movers are apparently not succesful.

A good summary: http://www.railfaneurope.net/list/iran/iran_rai.html

 
While the railfaneurope listing seems pretty good, they have used some strange illustrations. The G16 illustrated and some of the other EMDs are definitely Israeli units, and I don't think international relations are at the stage of run-through power just yet.
 
The G22 illustrated looks like a G12. At least it appears to be Iranian. It is possible that some G12s were built with 12-645Es as G22s, but the standard G22 didn't look much like that.
 
The Alstom units normally had EMD 710 engines, but these couldn't be exported to Iran at the time of the order, so the Ruston RK215 was substituted. This was a new design, a scaled down RK (which had 254 mm bore) but was not a success. I think it is still built in China under licence for marine use. The replacement engines are a Belgian (ABC) design, which at least are not new and untried....
 
If they could have bought 710s, with the removal of restrictions, I'm sure they would have worked.
 
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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:41 AM

Deggesty

 

 
schlimm

Only on here would anyone get so worked up about trivialities.

 

 

 

Is this a defense of ignorance?

 

 

No.  Pointing out the rather odd joy some on here obtain in obsessively pointing out the trivial errors of others.  It's why the general public largely thinks railfans are strange people.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:23 AM

schlimm
Pointing out the rather odd joy some on here obtain in obsessively pointing out the trivial errors of others.

It's only trivial if you have no interest in it...

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:38 AM

tree68

 

 
schlimm
Pointing out the rather odd joy some on here obtain in obsessively pointing out the trivial errors of others.

 

It's only trivial if you have no interest in it...

 

 

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I wonder why someone who thinks a matter is trivial complains when other people express an interest in it. Why does such a person simply not ignore the matter?

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:31 AM

Deggesty
tree68
schlimm

It's only trivial if you have no interest in it...

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I wonder why someone who thinks a matter is trivial complains when other people express an interest in it. Why does such a person simply not ignore the matter?

To some - nothing is too trivial to ignore -IF they rudimentary knowledge about the subject.

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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 7:48 PM

Deggesty

 

 
tree68

 

 
schlimm
Pointing out the rather odd joy some on here obtain in obsessively pointing out the trivial errors of others.

 

It's only trivial if you have no interest in it...

 

 

 

 

Thumbs Up

 

I wonder why someone who thinks a matter is trivial complains when other people express an interest in it. Why does such a person simply not ignore the matter?

 

No wonder this forum attracts OCD folks like Euclid, who all of you argue with in the almost same obsessive way as he does, nitpicking stuff into meaninglessness. 

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:29 PM

schlimm
...nitpicking stuff into meaninglessness...

Yes, he does...

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Posted by Fintribune on Friday, February 24, 2017 5:35 AM

We changed the picture 

Really sorry 

thanks :)

 

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