The railroads must be cracking down on vandalism and tightening up on their security.
I think things are looking better.
When I watch the live streaming video from Rochelle, Illinois, I notice more and more railroad freight cars have NOT been vandalized with graffiti.
Shadow the Cats owner brand new tractor in transit get tagged. It was damaged to the point of the Insurance company of the manufactor is
Russell
Shadow the Cats ownerThe paint job on this truck was a special one for our #1 driver in seniority he has been with us for 40 years. He had custom designed it with multiple colors and had asked for and gotten a higher end interior. Well they destroyed the paint job by scratching the paint to where it was going to require repainting that damage alone was 20K they then cut off the fuel tanks another 15K to replace stole the custom wheels yes there are few choices they had a different hole patteren in them. That was another 12K then they had fun with the engine they found the wires cut interior had been defacated on and cut for almost another 60K in damage. Where was the transport driver during this in his Hotel room. Time to destory this truck less than 5 mins. The next one my boss and his father are going to the factory and picking it up and driving it back nonstop. For the engine they smashed in the radiator and EGR coolers. Transmission and rear ends are fine frame is good just the rest of the truck is destroyed.
You weren't dealing with everyday, run of the mill vandals. You were dealing with professional chop shop terrorist. Removing fuel tanks and wheels is far from vandalism.
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The paint job on this truck was a special one for our #1 driver in seniority he has been with us for 40 years. He had custom designed it with multiple colors and had asked for and gotten a higher end interior. Well they destroyed the paint job by scratching the paint to where it was going to require repainting that damage alone was 20K they then cut off the fuel tanks another 15K to replace stole the custom wheels yes there are few choices they had a different hole patteren in them. That was another 12K then they had fun with the engine they found the wires cut interior had been defacated on and cut for almost another 60K in damage. Where was the transport driver during this in his Hotel room. Time to destory this truck less than 5 mins. The next one my boss and his father are going to the factory and picking it up and driving it back nonstop. For the engine they smashed in the radiator and EGR coolers. Transmission and rear ends are fine frame is good just the rest of the truck is destroyed.
Shadow the Cats owner It was damaged to the point of the Insurance company of the manufactor is totalling it out.
What & How did they damage it sufficient to cause it to be totaled? I can't see the frame or the drive train being damaged by vandals.
Shadow the Cats owner If we are going to be using Paintballs can we use frozen ones instead of regular ones. Better yet use Ghost pepper spiked paint in the paint balls. I know that sounds extreme it is called we just had a brand new tractor in transit get tagged. It was damaged to the point of the Insurance company of the manufactor is totalling it out. A 170 thousand bucks down the drain. It was a special ordered truck for our #1 driver in the company. He now has to wait for the replacement to be built and shipped to us. We wanted it here to celebrate his 40th year driving for the carrier now we are going to miss it.
If we are going to be using Paintballs can we use frozen ones instead of regular ones. Better yet use Ghost pepper spiked paint in the paint balls. I know that sounds extreme it is called we just had a brand new tractor in transit get tagged. It was damaged to the point of the Insurance company of the manufactor is totalling it out. A 170 thousand bucks down the drain. It was a special ordered truck for our #1 driver in the company. He now has to wait for the replacement to be built and shipped to us. We wanted it here to celebrate his 40th year driving for the carrier now we are going to miss it.
Could be a lot of fun, if we were able to make fun of the miscreants while they suffered.
BaltACD Paintballing them would be sporting!
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Firelock76 The thing is, and it's really a sad thing, is a lot of the graffiti I've seen lately has been done by some people with quite a bit of latent talent in them, it's true. Some of the stuff is very clever and very well done, but the thing is, it's still vandalism. Too bad they can't put that talent to better use. Then there was a CSX official who was quoted a few years back as saying CSX didn't mind the taggers at all, it saved them the trouble of painting the cars themselves. I hope he was kidding.
The thing is, and it's really a sad thing, is a lot of the graffiti I've seen lately has been done by some people with quite a bit of latent talent in them, it's true. Some of the stuff is very clever and very well done, but the thing is, it's still vandalism.
Too bad they can't put that talent to better use.
Then there was a CSX official who was quoted a few years back as saying CSX didn't mind the taggers at all, it saved them the trouble of painting the cars themselves.
I hope he was kidding.
I'm surprised they don't have new cars delivered only in a primer coat and left for others to "decorate."
Jeff
BaltACDMaybe the railroads should start constructing cars out of unpainted Cor-Ten steel - the steel that creates it's own 'paint' by rusting and making a surface that is more difficult to paint on.
Some lease firms already believe in that. Well, not the Cor-Ten part, but def'n the rust part.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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Firelock76The thing is, and it's really a sad thing, is a lot of the graffiti I've seen lately has been done by some people with quite a bit of latent talent in them, it's true. Some of the stuff is very clever and very well done, but the thing is, it's still vandalism. Too bad they can't put that talent to better use. Then there was a CSX official who was quoted a few years back as saying CSX didn't mind the taggers at all, it saved them the trouble of painting the cars themselves. I hope he was kidding.
Maybe the railroads should start constructing cars out of unpainted Cor-Ten steel - the steel that creates it's own 'paint' by rusting and making a surface that is more difficult to paint on.
Latent talent is worthless unless it becomes unlatent. They should tag their property.. opps.. almost forgot most don't own property. The vast majority of us unwashed untalented property owners do understand the value of property and the obvious need to respect the property of others by at a minimum refraining from "enhancing"/defacing it. I bet there aren't five taggers on the planet who have a combined net worth that is a positive number.. (they're for the most part bums..)
MiningmanNot art, or even an expression of frustration, it's garbage and looks like hell...in the eye of the beholder I guess, but it's dangerous and it's private property.
The sad part is that a certain small amount if it is actually pretty good. It's too bad they choose to deface private property in order to show it.
The hopper Balt posted shows a certain amount of whimsy...
That said, I can't seem to find the cartoon of God about to hit the "SMITE" key on his computer as a tagger is about to get tagged by an oncoming train.
And no, I don't like it either...
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
One way might be to put a $100.00 tax on every can of spray paint sold. Yeah.. I know some of it is stolen, but not that much. The tax thus collected would be distributed to the victims of vandalism. Sure, if you have a legitimate need for paint then its going to cost you a little bit more... but that's the price you pay for living in a world that would otherwise be despoiled by vandals. Shooting at them with pellet guns would be kinda fun too..
Firelock76- Yikes! You think the rioting is bad now just try doing that..the media is constantly touting these guys as artists and that it's a great thing. I never understood that.
It seemed at one time they left certain car types alone, such as tank cars, and the reporting marks/car numbers were spared but last few years that's out the window.
Not art, or even an expression of frustration, it's garbage and looks like hell...in the eye of the beholder I guess, but it's dangerous and it's private property.
Firelock76 How about the "Singapore Solution?" Remember that young American dummy who was caught vandalizing cars there back in the 90's? I'll bet he hasn't done any tagging since getting his backside caned, there or here.
How about the "Singapore Solution?" Remember that young American dummy who was caught vandalizing cars there back in the 90's?
I'll bet he hasn't done any tagging since getting his backside caned, there or here.
Johnny
"+1" - "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander . . . "
mudchicken CSSHEGEWISCH Graffiti of all sorts have been around since ancient times. There are documented examples of graffiti on the statuary at Abu Simbel that were placed there by Roman soldiers. I don't think that lynching the graffiti artists is a real answer. but it would be "sporting"
CSSHEGEWISCH Graffiti of all sorts have been around since ancient times. There are documented examples of graffiti on the statuary at Abu Simbel that were placed there by Roman soldiers. I don't think that lynching the graffiti artists is a real answer.
Graffiti of all sorts have been around since ancient times. There are documented examples of graffiti on the statuary at Abu Simbel that were placed there by Roman soldiers. I don't think that lynching the graffiti artists is a real answer.
but it would be "sporting"
Paintballing them would be sporting!
Bounties...If they think it's a sport, up the ante.
Thank You.
The below Colton, CA photos were recently posted in the “Sunset Route Two-Tracking Updates” thread. It was pointed out there-in that it must have taken some doing to leave that kind of bridge graffiti. What did they do? Hang off the bridge with ropes?
In that thread a number of graffiti photos have been posted over the years. I’ve noticed that a favorite graffiti target has been CP boxes for signals and switches. I personally have never seen such ‘art’ being painted in person. To be honest, though, I really don’t know what I would do if I saw such being done. UP has so turned off railfans I might just do nothing. Hey, they don’t pay me to stick my neck out, as the saying goes … As it is now I seldom call UP’s grade crossing hotline except for immediate life and death matters.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- K.P.’s absolute “theorem” from early, early childhood that he has seen over and over and over again: Those that CAUSE a problem in the first place will act the most violently if questioned or exposed.
Then there's this guy, who come seem to consider a regular Rembrandt...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy
I'd love to figure out who he was and go around covering his work up as soon as he left...
writesong How do we stop the vandals from defacing railroad property with their unsightly graffiti?
How do we stop the vandals from defacing railroad property with their unsightly graffiti?
Principle: "The power to tax is the power to destroy." Daniel Webster in McCullough v. Maryland
Proposed solution: Excise tax on bullets @ $1,500 each. Excise tax on spray paint @ $1,500 per can.
You mean "street art" or whatever else it's being called besides what it really is. Schools even have classes on it. (Down in Des Moines a student project was removed when someone saw it and thought it was just graffiti. http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2016/05/16/huge-student-mural-erased-outside-central-place/84452418/ )
The more it becomes accepted, the harder it will be to stop it.
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