" ...and building the railways of tomorrow". I assume this is a reference to modern high speed rail. Perhaps encouraging innovation and less regulations for freight. Meeting the challengers of tomorrow.
What did it mean to you?
MiningmanWhat did it mean to you?
Jetpacks.
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NYC already did that!
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Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Miningman " ...and building the railways of tomorrow". I assume this is a reference to modern high speed rail. Perhaps encouraging innovation and less regulations for freight. Meeting the challengers of tomorrow. What did it mean to you?
Not much ... without the actual reference itself, not just a snippet from it, and without the context. Perhaps the 175th anniversary of the facilities at Derby?
There's as much transit content in "does this tram proceed to an estuary" and as much alternative transport in "my hovercraft is full of eels".
Try again and put the context in this time...
Does this have something to do with 'building the world of tomorrow' at the immediately-prewar New York World's Fair?
(Just as a comment, the Fair had perhaps the most awful, smarmy theme song that was ever written. It makes 'We are the Children' sound reasonably good by comparison ... and believe me, that takes a heap of doin'.)
Yes, but is it worse than "It's a Small World" or "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing?" Or, worse yet, "Watching Scotty Grow?" Cripes, now I can't stop thinking of them! Damn it!
54light15 Yes, but is it worse than "It's a Small World" or "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing?" Or, worse yet, "Watching Scotty Grow?"
Yes, but is it worse than "It's a Small World" or "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing?" Or, worse yet, "Watching Scotty Grow?"
Yes. And "Billy, Don't be a Hero", or the song the otherwise-rational music teacher at my sister's school overreacted to whenever he heard it, "The Music Goes Round and Round" ... or any of the awful songs from that awful Sergeant Pepper abomination, which I overreact to whenever I hear it...
I was tempted to put up a link that has the song in it, but I find I have some vestige of compassion left. If you find it ... you will know. But be aware that what has been heard cannot be unheard.
"And the railways of tomorrow."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CVTuOyZDI0&t=1h45s
Excerpt from transcript
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/12253426/donald-trump-acceptance-speech-transcript-republican-nomination-transcript
Our horrible trade agreements with China, and many others, will be totally renegotiated. That includes renegotiating NAFTA to get a much better deal for America and we'll walk away if we don't get that kind of a deal. Our country is going to start building and making things again.
Next comes the reform of our tax laws, regulations and energy rules. While Hillary Clinton plans a massive, and I mean massive, tax increase, I have proposed the largest tax reduction of any candidate who has run for president this year, Democrat or Republican. Middle-income Americans will experience profound relief, and taxes will be greatly simplified for everyone. I mean everyone.
America is one of the highest-taxed nations in the world. Reducing taxes will cause new companies and new jobs to come roaring back into our country. Believe me. It will happen and it will happen fast.
Then we are going to deal with the issue of regulation, one of the greatest job killers of them all. Excessive regulation is costing our country as much as $2 trillion a year, and we will end and it very quickly.
We are going to lift the restrictions on the production of American energy. This will produce more than $20 trillion in job-creating economic activity over the next four decades.
My opponent, on the other hand, wants to put the great miners and steelworkers of our country out of work and out of business. That will never happen with Donald J. Trump as president. Our steelworkers and are miners are going back to work again.
With these new economic policies, trillions of dollars will start flowing into our country. This new wealth will improve the quality of life for all Americans. We will build the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, and the railways of tomorrow. This, in turn, will create millions of more jobs.
Excerpted from an NBC Today Show, originally broadcast February 17, 1979 hyping up the new NBC show "Supertrain", one of the more infamous failures on network television. See Jane Pauley, young Tom Brokaw, and Gene Shalit introduce a filmed package (remember those?) by Jack Perkins at the MGM lot where Supertrain was filmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBMVAzIMl5A
Drive your Chevy Citation to the station. All aboard! Next stop is the future.
wanswheel"And the railways of tomorrow." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CVTuOyZDI0&t=1h45s
Thank you, Mike. I am out of the political loop too much, I guess. Strange that a Google search on the phrase produced utterly no reference to this as of this morning -- I expect that will change fairly quickly.
Wonder if he left 'railways' to the end for special emphasis, or just because that's where he ranks them?
Wasn't the theme song to the 1939 World's Fair "Hi-Ho, Come to the Fair?"
Which to my knowledge actually predates the '39-'40 World's Fair. Maybe DaveKlepper needs to sound off on this, he was there!
I've heard "Come to the Fair," I think it's actually quite charming. It' s a hell of a lot better than "It's A Small World After All" which I only mentioned because someone else did first!
"Small World" makes my skin crawl, it makes Lady Firestorm homicidal!
Thanks Wanswheel .. That was the reference, just didn't want to venture too far. So glad you picked up on it.. I thought it was a fairly profound statement .. He hesitated a second before adding it on
He has talked previously about High Soeed Rail and how the rest of the world is ahead of us. I find it at least encouraging that it's mentioned.
wanswheel With these new economic policies, trillions of dollars will start flowing into our country. This new wealth will improve the quality of life for all Americans. We will build the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, and the railways of tomorrow. This, in turn, will create millions of more jobs.
Firelock76Wasn't the theme song to the 1939 World's Fair "Hi-Ho, Come to the Fair?"
I meant the theme song to the World of Tomorrow. "Dawn of a New Day". Especially awful if you know who wrote the words and the music.
EuclidThere are many that believe that the way to cause trillions of dollars to flow in is to borrow and spend on those infracstructure items.
Conventional wisdom but Indiana has already proven it can be done without spending a lot of State or Federal money. How? By selling rights to the private sector to use private sector money and project management over time. The State uses it's credit to issue bonds BUT the interest and payback of those bonds is done by the private contractor via tolls collected (also could be done via real estate value capture......but this latter idea has not been tried yet and is controversial).
EuclidI just hope the trillions of dollars flow in before we build the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, and the railways of tommorw.
My view on this is we need to prioritize projects on return back to the country in GDP growth, cost avoidance, etc. For example, agree with others on the controversial position that rail is not always the immediate best selection for improvement in transportation between two cities. Mass Transit and Rail do improve what Economists refer to as Economic velocity which they attribute to GDP growth. The bottom line is, and using hypotheticals here these are not actual stats........ do we want to build a $100-120 Billion HSR system in California if the payback on that money takes 50 years to accompish via GDP growth. Could we obtain a faster return with that money by improving water use and retention, building reservoirs for prolonged droughts?.
We do have a limited pool of money to spend and we can't make everyone happy as there isn't enough money. So I think our priorities should be on projects that advance us the most on GDP and tax collection growth.
How do we best build and advance the Economy with the money we have? Thats an approach we have not used in the past and we have wasted Trillions probably by throwing money at everything.
Right, I did a bit of further research and sure, "Dawn of a New Day" isn't the best of Gershwin's efforts, however the Horace Height (on You Tube) arrangement isn't too bad, it has kind of a neat 30's "Big Band" vibe to it if you appreciate that kind of music.
OK, Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, or Tommy Dorsey it ain't, but I've heard worse.
Did you go to the 1964-1965 New York World's Fair? We did, and on the way home Mom (a New York City girl) said, "Well, it was all right, but the one in 1939 was a LOT better!"
Thanks a lot Mom! Ruined it for me!
Euclid wanswheel With these new economic policies, trillions of dollars will start flowing into our country. This new wealth will improve the quality of life for all Americans. We will build the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, and the railways of tomorrow. This, in turn, will create millions of more jobs. I just hope the trillions of dollars flow in before we build the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, and the railways of tommorw. There are many that believe that the way to cause trillions of dollars to flow in is to borrow and spend on those infracstructure items.
...and thus we have the perpetual conundrum of economic activity.
Raw materials rarely, if ever, exist where products are manufactured and the manufactured products are rarely, if ever, fully consumed where they are manufactured.
To develop a economic stream you need facilities to transport the raw materials to the manufacturer and facilities to move and distribute the manufacturered products to the ultimate consumer. All of these operations require transportation - if it isn't built it won't happen.
Firelock76 Right, I did a bit of further research and sure, "Dawn of a New Day" isn't the best of Gershwin's efforts, however the Horace Height (on You Tube) arrangement isn't too bad, it has kind of a neat 30's "Big Band" vibe to it if you appreciate that kind of music. OK, Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, or Tommy Dorsey it ain't, but I've heard worse. Did you go to the 1964-1965 New York World's Fair? We did, and on the way home Mom (a New York City girl) said, "Well, it was all right, but the one in 1939 was a LOT better!" Thanks a lot Mom! Ruined it for me!
Typical mom, typical old phart! Things were ALWAYS better 'in my day' than they are now.
Firelock76Did you go to the 1964-1965 New York World's Fair? We did, and on the way home Mom (a New York City girl) said, "Well, it was all right, but the one in 1939 was a LOT better!"
I went to the '64 World's Fair, probably at just the right age, and had one of the best times I can remember. The only bad thing was that I was just in the throes of requiring permanent glasses, didn't remember to take them ... and so my memory of the high point, the enormous Marklin railroad layout, is of a blurred mountain with only a few little trains visible in the foreground. Remember waiting with some excitement for the Hawaii Pavilion restaurant volcanoes to erupt. That was the first place I saw 'diffraction grating' jewels; that was really high technology you could hold in your hand. My father got my mom on the flume ride; I forget what story he told, but she wouldn't talk to him much for a while afterward. You'd think I would remember the E units ... but I don't, probably didn't remember to look for them. I waited with great excitement for the return next summer ... but we never went, and to this day I still watch clips of the goings-on with nostalgia.
(One of my favorite things, from the first time I saw it in my grandparents' house, was the little 'souvenir' Trylon and Perisphere thermometer they brought back. That, and my little 'I have seen the future' button (that I wear when giving presentations sometimes) are still prized possessions all these many years later.)
Never went back to see the burnt porkchop unisphere or the surviving buildings, although it was fun to see them from the road to Kennedy Airport. I remember how amazing all those buildings were 'in the day' and couldn't believe all that bustle and all those crowds could just disappear so completely when they had such a cheerful and positive message for us all.
I guess I got too old, too fast, or perhaps the world changed too much in the following few years, but I never again saw a Worlds' Fair to touch that one in '64.
Overmod theme song to the World of Tomorrow. "Dawn of a New Day". Especially awful
theme song to the World of Tomorrow. "Dawn of a New Day". Especially awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcfgvzwaDHc&t=7m8s
Wow, Ethel Merman when she could still sing!
This one's not as good as the Horace Height one I mentioned, but it still beats "Small World."
Overmod, we just may have been within hailing distance of each other!
The things I remember best from the '64 Fair are the GE Pavilion, THAT one had a good song, "Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow", I still remember the words, the Ford Pavilion where they introduced the Mustang, and you got to ride though the pavilion in one, (I let my brother take the driver's seat, I'm not a car guy) The Vatican Pavilion where we saw Michaelangelo's Pieta, hey we were good Catholics, couldn't pass THAT one up!
And there was the "Hall of Presidents," I THINK that was in the Illinois Pavilion but I could be wrong on that. This was the debut of the attraction that's now at the Disney theme parks. I'll never forget the words the "Audio-Anamatronic" Lincoln said...
"As a nation of free men, we will live forever, or die by suicide!"
The rest of the Fair's kind of a blur, it was a bit overwheming.
We did get close to the Unisphere. I thought it was supposed to be a representation of what the world would look like after nuclear war, so we'd better not have one!
Oh, and I almost forgot:
I enjoyed the hell out of that exhibit where we floated past dolls dressed in all the costumes of the world. I especially enjoyed the catchy little song all the dolls were singing in their different voices ... it probably might have started to be cloying if there weren't all those different voices, and the message weren't so relevant...
Outside of that context, or if you were to, say, try to make that exhibit a Disney ride that generations and generations of kids would start singing the catchy song from -- anyone out there remember the Wee Sing videos, especially 'Sillyville'? -- there might have been a bad end to that business...
“Workers build up the sides of the crate that contains Michelangelo’s Pieta’ on its transatlantic voyage to the New York World’s Fair on April 2, 1964. The statue stands on cotton padding between its base and the bottom of the crate, on a sandwich of two four-inch planks with a rubber layer in between. As the sides of the crate are erected, it will be packed full of millions of tiny plastic beads. Then it will be put into a steel container with a fireproof asbestos layer between the two boxes. A special truck will haul the crated statue to Naples on April 4, to be loaded aboard the liner Cristoforo Colombo, for its trip to the Vatican pavilion of the New York’s World’s Fair.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ojYElSlj0&t=15m6s
Excerpt from NY Times, April 14, 1964
Michelangelo's masterwork in marble, the “Pietà,” arrived in New York yesterday, the first time it has left the Vatican since the sculptor smuggled it into St. Peter's in a horsedrawn cart 465 years ago.
The sculptor's poignant depiction of the frail body of Jesus in death, cradled in the arms of His mother, will be put on display in the Vatican Pávilion at the World's Fair.
Fearful that the slightest jar might split the aged marble of the massive work, shippers had packed the Pietà in a watertight case inside of a case inside of another case.
Even if the Italian Line's Cristoforo Colombo—the ship that carried the masterpiece from Italy—had sunk, the container would have floated. The top of the container was painted a bright orange, so it could be spotted easily.
And even if the container, through some mischance, had sunk 10 feet below the surface, electronic equipment within the case would have radioed the Pietà's position.
Overmod Oh, and I almost forgot: I enjoyed the hell out of that exhibit where we floated past dolls dressed in all the costumes of the world. I especially enjoyed the catchy little song all the dolls were singing in their different voices ... it probably might have started to be cloying if there weren't all those different voices, and the message weren't so relevant... Outside of that context, or if you were to, say, try to make that exhibit a Disney ride that generations and generations of kids would start singing the catchy song from -- anyone out there remember the Wee Sing videos, especially 'Sillyville'? -- there might have been a bad end to that business...
You...can't...be...serious...
OvermodI went to the '64 World's Fair, probably at just the right age, and had one of the best times I can remember. . . . You'd think I would remember the E units ... but I don't, probably didn't remember to look for them. . . . I guess I got too old, too fast, or perhaps the world changed too much in the following few years, but I never again saw a Worlds' Fair to touch that one in '64.
. . . I guess I got too old, too fast, or perhaps the world changed too much in the following few years, but I never again saw a Worlds' Fair to touch that one in '64.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_New_York_World%27s_Fair
E units ??? There was a GP35 - #1964, it seems - with a glass side ! Or at least opened up in the hood area, and a glass side to the cab (didn't see it until my 3rd trip, I think):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GP-35_Diesel_1964_Worlds_Fair.jpg
http://www.worldsfaircommunity.org/topic/14367-gm-locomotive/
http://www.billcotter.com/misc/nywf64/gm-locomotive-65.jpg
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/locomotive/images/b/bd/GP35_Demo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130809085152
http://locomotive.wikia.com/wiki/File:GP35_Demo.jpg
http://locomotive.wikia.com/wiki/File:GP35_Demonstrator.jpg
Maybe wanswheel / Mike can find more about it ?
- Paul North.
Firelock76 The things I remember best from the '64 Fair are the GE Pavilion, THAT one had a good song, "Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow", I still remember the words, the Ford Pavilion where they introduced the Mustang, and you got to ride though the pavilion in one, (I let my brother take the driver's seat, I'm not a car guy) The Vatican Pavilion where we saw Michaelangelo's Pieta, hey we were good Catholics, couldn't pass THAT one up!
The GE pavillion was moved to Anaheim and became the GE Carousel of Progress at Disneyland - visited that one many times between 1968 and 1972. The sets and characters were moved to Disney World and I gor reacquainted with the show a few months ago when spending a week at Disney World. There were a couple of changes in the display - missed the "one boy power" vacuum cleaner from the Disneyland version and have a vague recollection of street car sounds in the 1920's display at Disneyland.
The wife of the couple that were hosting us at WDW worked at the Vatican Paviliion and she got really tired of hearing "It's a small world after all".
Paul_D_North_Jr Maybe wanswheel / Mike can find more about it ?
Or maybe not. It seems there were two of them.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3119018
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4464275
wanswheelWith these new economic policies, trillions of dollars will start flowing into our country. This new wealth will improve the quality of life for all Americans. We will build the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, and the railways of tomorrow. This, in turn, will create millions of more jobs.
And I have a bridge to sell you. Do people actually buy this (crap)?
wanswheelOr maybe not. It seems there were two of them.
Maybe the same one - just changed the number board to match that year of the Fair ? That's what the caption on this photo you found says, as well as some other interesting details (only dynamic-brake GP35 on the New York Central):
The Fair was 1964 & 1965 (don't know about through the winter). With all the effort it took to make the loco up that way with the glass side, etc. and to get it in there, I don't think it would have been worthwhile to remove and reconfigure it, then do it all over again a few months later.
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