Norm48327...perhaps Tree 68 remembers it.
The Dow "death train." Which did, in fact, derail between Highland and Milford, although I don't remember the date. I don't recall that there was anything spilled, however.
It ran on the CSX Saginaw Sub from the thumb down through Plymouth and on to Toledo and points south, I believe.
We used to get the "acid train" through this area - it was a real witch's brew, too. Not a lot of hubbub, and never an incident that I know of. I believe it takes another route now, if it runs at all.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
Wait, the "BOMB! TRAINS!" are oil trains?
I thought they were grain trains.
Have you ever seen the "after" photo of a grain elevator explosion? If a whole 100 car grain train went at once Hiroshima would look like a Bic.
(Snark? Me?)
Norm48327 The media panning these trains is nothing new. In the sixties, Dow Chemical ran a dedicated train on C&O carrying [who know what] chemicals through the suburbs of southeatern Michigan presumably on it's way to the Gulf Coast. There was considerable hubub in the press and on TV about it. They had people scared out of their wits worrying about a major chemical spill that never happened. A search turned up nothing but perhaps Tree 68 remembers it.
The media panning these trains is nothing new. In the sixties, Dow Chemical ran a dedicated train on C&O carrying [who know what] chemicals through the suburbs of southeatern Michigan presumably on it's way to the Gulf Coast. There was considerable hubub in the press and on TV about it. They had people scared out of their wits worrying about a major chemical spill that never happened. A search turned up nothing but perhaps Tree 68 remembers it.
I don't recall that false alarm. I recall quite well the real N&W Decatur crash of 1974. A real bomb train.
http://herald-review.com/news/local/memories-still-strong-of-rail-explosion/article_32579a2e-1399-5b9a-b6ce-bd68efb5fa68.html
Bunk house where seven railroaders were killed.
C&NW, CA&E, MILW, CGW and IC fan
tomikawaTT schlimm tomikawaTT all we need is a couple of dump trucks and a front end loader to remove this pile of bovine excrement. Gee, that's really impressive reasoning! So, how do you suggest removing it? Diverting the River Styx would be something of an overkill. Or do you actually approve of this kind of fearmongering? Chuck (retired USAF Disaster Control responder)
schlimm tomikawaTT all we need is a couple of dump trucks and a front end loader to remove this pile of bovine excrement. Gee, that's really impressive reasoning!
tomikawaTT all we need is a couple of dump trucks and a front end loader to remove this pile of bovine excrement.
Gee, that's really impressive reasoning!
No, I already said I do not like fear-mongering and exaggerations, whoever does so. I just don't like posts that rely on silly euphemisms for vulgar slang.
Norm
blue streak 1 The only bomb train to worry about is a DOD. Remember Roseville.
The only bomb train to worry about is a DOD. Remember Roseville.
But that was real ordinance!
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
tomikawaTTall we need is a couple of dump trucks and a front end loader to remove this pile of bovine excrement.
Right at the bottom of the article it tells you that the author is an anti-fracking activist. Her agenda is obvious.
One of the best ways to generate fear in the uninformed is to wildly exaggerate the probability of some bad event, then claim that the responsible parties are ignoring things that the general public will never be able to check.
I, personally, have been within a couple of feet of enough megatons to make Moscow (or any other city) a memory. So...
I was also near neighbor to a couple of one tankcar load LPG BLEVE. The fire evacuation radius was one mile. The actual damage zone was about 100 yards, max, from the blowout point. Since some of my Air Force duties involved disaster control, I have a professional interest in such matters.
So now all we need is a couple of dump trucks and a front end loader to remove this pile of bovine excrement.
Chuck (semi-professional skeptic)
True. There is too much of that on right and left, whether about climate or other issues.
schlimmReasoned dialogue is, unfortunately, in short supply these days.
Especially when those on the left keep saying "our way or no way".
The article engages in fear-mongering and some unneeded exaggerations. However, there are many incontrovertible facts, which exaggerated ridicule does nothing to contradict. Reasoned dialogue is, unfortunately, in short supply these days.
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I'm more concerned about the idiot truck drivers right outside my house.... Trains are way safer!
And, I am willing to bet this article is written by the same groundbreaking reporter that pointed out that the latest thing that California has labeled "Known to cause cancer" is being alive.
After all, dead people do not get cancer.....
Ricky W.
HO scale Proto-freelancer.
My Railroad rules:
1: It's my railroad, my rules.
2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.
3: Any objections, consult above rules.
The article is curious in that it continually ignores the railroad renesaince. Infrustructure is in the best condition it has been in decades.
Besides the CP incident caused by flooding undermining a bridge, I can't think of any bridge-caused incidents involving flamable liquids.
They lose all credability when they claim that the bridge the FRA auditor inspected was still unsafe.
Meanwhile in Australia, the Hawkesbury River Bridge pier still hasn't been fixed...
BaltACD What about all those BOMB TRUCKS that drive by most people's houses, driven by log book faking drivers that are barely awake at the wheel popping Amphetamines like they are candy.
What about all those BOMB TRUCKS that drive by most people's houses, driven by log book faking drivers that are barely awake at the wheel popping Amphetamines like they are candy.
http://news.yahoo.com/deadly-truck-crash-causes-smoky-portland-railroad-yard-194507867.html
Bomb truck endangers railroad tankers.
I just glanced at it, but it seems to me to be a report from a biased news media outlet using observations from biased organizations having the same agenda. After getting that impression, I stopped reading.
Btw, we sometimes call the loaded ethanol trains, "rolling bombs" at work. I just had one last trip out.
Jeff
Semper VaporoDon't forget that for most Americans, cities and other municipalities pump Di-Hydrogen MonOxide directly into their homes! People DIE if they breath this stuff!
Don't worry, the vigilant politicians in Kalifornication tried to enact legislation to protect their citizens from that "bad chemical". Hooray we're saved! lol
Cars kill more people in a year than guns, train wrecks, and pipeline disasters in their lifetimes (almost combined). Yet the roar from the fear mongerers to ban cars is deafening.
n012944 OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Run for the hills..... sigh.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Run for the hills.....
sigh.
Watch out for dihydrogen monoxide poisoning!
I don't know which is worse, that or Hydro-oxic acid. I believe that hydrogen hydroxide is just as bad. Perhaps our investigative journalists should look into this matter also?
Johnny
CShaveRRMore journalistic fear-mongering.
Indeed.
As you read the article, you can almost hear the author hyperventilating!
Don't forget that for most Americans, cities and other municipalities pump Di-Hydrogen MonOxide directly into their homes! People DIE if they breath this stuff!
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
If eel like this quote from the article pretty much suggets that most of the article is not to be taken as serious, intelligent journalism."While Riverkeeper inspectors may not be engineers, the railroad owners inspecting their own bridges may not be much better."
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