Which inspires a calculated thought: Certain modern carriers are notorious for neglect of their plant. If a "bomb train" happened to have a mishap on a neglected bridge belonging to a carrier having such a reputation, and the incident is proven as resulting from deterioration, shouldn't that carrier be held criminally liable?
Don't miss this part: "Deadly Crossing: Neglected Bridges & Exploding Oil Trains," (downloadable PDF)
Convicted One Which inspires a calculated thought: Certain modern carriers are notorious for neglect of their plant. If a "bomb train" happened to have a mishap on a neglected bridge belonging to a carrier having such a reputation, and the incident is proven as resulting from deterioration, shouldn't that carrier be held criminally liable?
Since said "neglectful" carrier is required by FRA regulation to perform certain inspection and maintenance practices it would be almost impossible to say they are neglectful, and if they were is FRA criminally responsible for not ensuring complance?
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=6251b7103fbaf569f3fc83c027572e3f&mc=true&node=pt49.4.237&rgn=div5
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Buslistand if they were is FRA criminally responsible for not ensuring complance?
Sounds like a "non-waiver" issue to me.
Well, by all means, let's stop all trains at the borders and turn them back, because some of them are known derailers and blower-uppers.More journalistic fear-mongering.
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What about all those BOMB TRUCKS that drive by most people's houses, driven by log book faking drivers that are barely awake at the wheel popping Amphetamines like they are candy.
CShaveRRMore journalistic fear-mongering.
Precisely.
Norm
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Run for the hills.....
sigh.
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The tracks are a mile away. The interstate is a half mile away. The airplanes on landing approach are about 500 feet away. A city street runs right past my front yard. Gas and electric lines run under my lawn right up to the house! I think the trains are the least of my worries.
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If eel like this quote from the article pretty much suggets that most of the article is not to be taken as serious, intelligent journalism."While Riverkeeper inspectors may not be engineers, the railroad owners inspecting their own bridges may not be much better."
Don't forget that for most Americans, cities and other municipalities pump Di-Hydrogen MonOxide directly into their homes! People DIE if they breath this stuff!
Semper Vaporo
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Indeed.
As you read the article, you can almost hear the author hyperventilating!
BaltACD What about all those BOMB TRUCKS that drive by most people's houses, driven by log book faking drivers that are barely awake at the wheel popping Amphetamines like they are candy.
I don't know which is worse, that or Hydro-oxic acid. I believe that hydrogen hydroxide is just as bad. Perhaps our investigative journalists should look into this matter also?
Johnny
n012944 OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Run for the hills..... sigh.
Watch out for dihydrogen monoxide poisoning!
Cars kill more people in a year than guns, train wrecks, and pipeline disasters in their lifetimes (almost combined). Yet the roar from the fear mongerers to ban cars is deafening.
Semper VaporoDon't forget that for most Americans, cities and other municipalities pump Di-Hydrogen MonOxide directly into their homes! People DIE if they breath this stuff!
Don't worry, the vigilant politicians in Kalifornication tried to enact legislation to protect their citizens from that "bad chemical". Hooray we're saved! lol
I just glanced at it, but it seems to me to be a report from a biased news media outlet using observations from biased organizations having the same agenda. After getting that impression, I stopped reading.
Btw, we sometimes call the loaded ethanol trains, "rolling bombs" at work. I just had one last trip out.
Jeff
http://news.yahoo.com/deadly-truck-crash-causes-smoky-portland-railroad-yard-194507867.html
Bomb truck endangers railroad tankers.
The article is curious in that it continually ignores the railroad renesaince. Infrustructure is in the best condition it has been in decades.
Besides the CP incident caused by flooding undermining a bridge, I can't think of any bridge-caused incidents involving flamable liquids.
They lose all credability when they claim that the bridge the FRA auditor inspected was still unsafe.
Meanwhile in Australia, the Hawkesbury River Bridge pier still hasn't been fixed...
I'm more concerned about the idiot truck drivers right outside my house.... Trains are way safer!
And, I am willing to bet this article is written by the same groundbreaking reporter that pointed out that the latest thing that California has labeled "Known to cause cancer" is being alive.
After all, dead people do not get cancer.....
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The article engages in fear-mongering and some unneeded exaggerations. However, there are many incontrovertible facts, which exaggerated ridicule does nothing to contradict. Reasoned dialogue is, unfortunately, in short supply these days.
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schlimmReasoned dialogue is, unfortunately, in short supply these days.
Especially when those on the left keep saying "our way or no way".
True. There is too much of that on right and left, whether about climate or other issues.
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