Why does Hollywood keep perpetuating the stereotype that Subways are fulll of drunks and crazys?

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

So am I the only one that finds irony in an individual that is on his fourth or fifth screen name, and who has previously posted on the rights of vagrants and migratory workers to ride the rails among other things, is wondering why Hollywood stereotypes groups?

Maybe I'm reading into this too much.......

I'm with you and jeaton;NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[M636C]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Junctionfan,

Somehow your image of Conrad Black on a Subway train struck me as pretty scary. I've never seen Rupert Murdoch on a train either!

The scariest things on Australian trains are drunken teenage schoolboys - if you can keep out of their way, you can think how lucky it is that they can't afford a car!

Peter

I knew those Mad Max movies were documentaries..[;)]

Dan,

I assume you are talking about Mad Max III "Beyond Thunderdome" - the rail scenes were taken on the the Australian National line from Broken Hill to Port Pirie (South Australia, where Coopers beer comes from). There were more than the usual group of very strange people using fairly odd rail transport.

Conrad Black tried his hand in Australian media, but was driven off by our even more frightening media owners.

Peter

[Anonymous]

".....that Hollywood Directorsa who ride in limos keep promoting ther stereotype in Dooby Brothers Dolby Suround Sound Stereo..."
quite a fine stereotype in its own right.

hollywood manufactures movies. movies are often qualify as films which are an accepted art form. artists create and manipulate metaphor. metaphor can degenerate into stereotype. it is up to the viewer to filter the metaphor through his own personal experience to discover whether or not there is a valid message in the image. hollywood will keep putting out stereotypes of blended half truth and half falsehood, such as the "hooker with the heart of gold", the "southern sheriff / bigot", "the black crack smoking subway mugger" until people begin to tire of the image and its lack of creativity.
this takes a long, long time because everyday folks, like most of us, do not go to movies to be educated . we go to be entertained. stereotypes are an easy trick and until they become boring, they work just fine as entertainment.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Junctionfan,

Somehow your image of Conrad Black on a Subway train struck me as pretty scary. I've never seen Rupert Murdoch on a train either!

The scariest things on Australian trains are drunken teenage schoolboys - if you can keep out of their way, you can think how lucky it is that they can't afford a car!

Peter

I knew those Mad Max movies were documentaries..[;)]

Dan,

I assume you are talking about Mad Max III "Beyond Thunderdome" - the rail scenes were taken on the the Australian National line from Broken Hill to Port Pirie (South Australia, where Coopers beer comes from). There were more than the usual group of very strange people using fairly odd rail transport.

Conrad Black tried his hand in Australian media, but was driven off by our even more frightening media owners.

Peter

Ahhh Coopers.......that's Australian for hangover

After seeing pictures of the vehicles over there..what are they called..Road Trains, the big rigs with multiple trailers? I thought that was everyday life....[;)]

[Anonymous]

".....that Hollywood Directorsa who ride in limos keep promoting ther stereotype in Dooby Brothers Dolby Suround Sound Stereo..."
quite a fine stereotype in its own right.

hollywood manufactures movies. movies are often qualify as films which are an accepted art form. artists create and manipulate metaphor. metaphor can degenerate into stereotype. it is up to the viewer to filter the metaphor through his own personal experience to discover whether or not there is a valid message in the image. hollywood will keep putting out stereotypes of blended half truth and half falsehood, such as the "hooker with the heart of gold", the "southern sheriff / bigot", "the black crack smoking subway mugger" until people begin to tire of the image and its lack of creativity.
this takes a long, long time because everyday folks, like most of us, do not go to movies to be educated . we go to be entertained. stereotypes are an easy trick and until they become boring, they work just fine as entertainment.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nice work best peice of commentary that i have heard in a long time

[CBQ_Guy]

You mean they're not?

(Things must have changed since I left Chicago 25 years ago...)

[M636C]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by M636C

Junctionfan,

Somehow your image of Conrad Black on a Subway train struck me as pretty scary. I've never seen Rupert Murdoch on a train either!

The scariest things on Australian trains are drunken teenage schoolboys - if you can keep out of their way, you can think how lucky it is that they can't afford a car!

Peter

I knew those Mad Max movies were documentaries..[;)]

Dan,

I assume you are talking about Mad Max III "Beyond Thunderdome" - the rail scenes were taken on the the Australian National line from Broken Hill to Port Pirie (South Australia, where Coopers beer comes from). There were more than the usual group of very strange people using fairly odd rail transport.

Conrad Black tried his hand in Australian media, but was driven off by our even more frightening media owners.

Peter

Ahhh Coopers.......that's Australian for hangover

After seeing pictures of the vehicles over there..what are they called..Road Trains, the big rigs with multiple trailers? I thought that was everyday life....[;)]

Dan,

Before visting the United States, I always watch some of the documentaries on the USA that explain the way of life there - usually "The Simpsons".

Peter

[dharmon]

Peter,


HAHAHAHAHA .... touche'

Dan

[mloik]

QUOTE:
Ahhh Coopers.......that's Australian for hangover

Despite spending a bunch of time in Australia three years ago, I just had my first Coopers this past Sunday.

Very tasty.

[mloik]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Clevelandrocks

Just stating the facts, Cant deny the facts here in Cleveland

There are facts, and there are appropriate ways to communicate facts. Yours was inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mloik

QUOTE: Originally posted by Clevelandrocks

Just stating the facts, Cant deny the facts here in Cleveland

There are facts, and there are appropriate ways to communicate facts. Yours was inappropriate.

That boy's got issues...

LC

[M636C]

See today's Newswire about Tokyo drunks!

Sixty Four Percent of women in the age category reporting!

That's an epidemic. Hollywood should try that for a subject (or probably not, thanks!).

But that does suggest some truth in the stereotype.

Peter