Amtrak David Gunn Last Day at Amtrak is Nov.1

[Anonymous]

If we lose Amtrak, Bush might as well legalize drunk driving and the use of drugs by truckdrivers, since that is the kind of logic behind his efforts to destroy Amtrak. Perhaps another attack on the airlines would not be such a bad thing. As transport policy, Bush did not get the message on 9/11, perhaps we need another attack on the airlines to drive the message through. I, myself have been trying to pursuade the guy that we need the passenger trains, but if it takes another 9/11 type attack on the air lines, so be it. Some airlines DO deserve to be put out of business.

[jeaton]

amtrak-tom

Appreciate your update.

Says something about the accuracy of some of the posts on this topic, doesn't it?

Do you suppose the November 1 date might be correct, but nobody got the correct year?

When Mr. Gunn decides to leave Amtrak, here is the sequence of people who will be in the know.

1. Mr. Gunn, himself

2. Members of his family and perhaps close personal associates

3. The Amtrak Board of Directors

4. Amtrak employees and the rest of the world.

I am not too concerned that I will someday be picking black feathers out of my teeth on this.

Jay

[Anonymous]

So far, as of Nov. 10th, no employee news has been posted concerning President Gunn - the only thing we know is what we have read on this web site.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by MP57313

QUOTE: Originally posted by amtrak-tom
We've always said amongst ourselves (the pawns on the Amtrak Chess board) that this railroad should go ahead and shut down during the week and let the public, and, the gov't. see what the northeast would look like (a parking lot on I-95 from Washington DC to New York).

If the shutdown included all the affiliated commuter rail operations that are inter-linked with Amtrak contractually, that would definitely have an impact. Actually, sometime in the past wasn't there was a strike or some other labor action that stopped some of the trains, but I don't recall if that was "Amtrak only". And, I think it was before 9/11, when you could "walk up" to buy an airplane ticket w/o going through lengthy security screenings.

I can't see how a shutdown could avoid including NJT, MN, MBTA and others that operate over Amtrak dispatched and or owned lines.

LC.

[MP57313]

QUOTE: Originally posted by amtrak-tom
We've always said amongst ourselves (the pawns on the Amtrak Chess board) that this railroad should go ahead and shut down during the week and let the public, and, the gov't. see what the northeast would look like (a parking lot on I-95 from Washington DC to New York).

If the shutdown included all the affiliated commuter rail operations that are inter-linked with Amtrak contractually, that would definitely have an impact. Actually, sometime in the past wasn't there was a strike or some other labor action that stopped some of the trains, but I don't recall if that was "Amtrak only". And, I think it was before 9/11, when you could "walk up" to buy an airplane ticket w/o going through lengthy security screenings.

[Anonymous]

[font=Times New Roman]During the past week of Nov. 5th, Amtrak's Pres. Gunn was in Florida to present Amtrak's annual Presidential Awards to employees. Lets see what the next days ahead will bring (along with the next 4 years with Pres. Bush)! The interesting thing here is, I found out more info about Amtrak on this web site long before we're "officially" told at work (i.e. the roadrailers` demise). The "buzz" at work about Pres. Gunn's possible departure is news to us with this info gained from this web site! Another web site supporting this "rumour" was found with the same info about Pres. Gunn and was posted on Oct. 23rd.

I can't really blame Mr. Gunn for wanting to depart and return to his prior retirement, instead of having to deal with the constant headache of under funding by the gov't., etc. We like the way he has stood his ground with the funding issue - support the system which you, the gov't., had created, or, shut it down.

We've always said amongst ourselves (the pawns on the Amtrak Chess board) that this railroad should go ahead and shut down during the week and let the public, and, the gov't. see what the northeast would look like (a parking lot on I-95 from Washington DC to New York).

I know most of the country wouldn't see much of an impact from this action, but, the rest of the country should think about the impact when all of those "northeasterners" are now consuming more gasoline each year without their train service being available.

A passenger railroad is a form of public transportation, such as a subway and a bus system are, and, the passenger railroad should be funded properly. In turn, the passenger trains help to reduce the impact of the thousands of cars and additional buses that would be placed onto the highways creating more traffic congestion and pollution. And, again, there's the annual fuel savings by not having these additional vehicles on the roads - which in turn reduces our need for Arab OPEC oil.

[retsignalmtr]

the way you guys are trumpeting the amtrak presidency of david gunn he must be the greatest thing since sliced bread. he must have learned a lot since he was president of the NYC transit authority many years ago. he did nothing there but agitate the workers and try to bust the union. he did nothing to increase productivity and the managers he brought with him knew nothing about running a transit system. they led by confrontation,intimidation and excessive dicipline and trying to circumvent the civil service laws. one manager known as bullwhip davis had several lawsuits piled up against him by employees that the stress on him caused (possibly ) a fatal heart attack. gunn left the nycta and thing got somewhat better. if he is now doing a good job at amtrak and the employees like him maybe he should stay.

[daveklepper]

Hopefully, the National Defense issue will be raised and Gunn will get all the money he asks for and needs.

[conrailman]

Go under What? in the Amtrak section You will see what I Mean that guy works for Amtrak Between Pittsburgh to Chicago. He kill Train 42 and 43. and March or April he will kill 40 and 41. No more sleeping car on that trains Now. and other stuff he said.

[conrailman]

People go to Trainorders. com and go under Amtrak you will see 2 things about David Gunn is trying to kill Amtrak.[*^_^*]

[rrnut282]

Mr Hemphill
Do you need help with your acceptance speech? I can think of several wanna-be bards that would 'foam' at the chance.

[Anonymous]

I heard a rumor that Mark Hemphill (former editor of Trains) was picked to replace Dave!!![:o)]

[jeaton]

ralphm- Can't find a tongue in cheek smilie which may have made the intent of my post a little clearer.

I think more often the opposit is true. People will believe anything they read on the net. The speculation that Dave Gunn would be leaving Amtrak on November 1 was bounced around on another railroad forum sometime back. Members there concluded that the rumor was without any merit.

Jay

[Anonymous]

What I love about the Internet is that if somone doesn't see what the expect to see, the first conclusion they draw is that there is a conspiracy (sp) to hush it up-- ref: above post.

[jeaton]

QUOTE: Originally posted by conrailman

David Gunn will be returning to retirement Nov.1 of this year. The Board has a sucessor in mind but is holding off till after the elections to make the Annoncement. [^][:)][8D]

As of today, November 2, there is no report in any media that Mr. Gunn has left Amtrak.

Is Amtrak keeping this a secret?

[Modelcar]

....I even pulled D. Gunn up on Google and it speaks of his retirement...but not from Amtrak.....It's from one of his previous railroad jobs.

[railman]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

The latest conspiracy is he's waiting until 5 minutes after the election to announce damage done by Al-Qada to the NEC which will shut down so that the popular media can immediately discredit the winner of the election and call for the shutting down of Amtrak nation-wide as a safety precaution until further notice.


How's that for a new rumor?

oohh, that's it. I forgot. Good to see another Jan.01' vintage member around the forums!

[rrnut282]

The latest conspiracy is he's waiting until 5 minutes after the election to announce damage done by Al-Qada to the NEC which will shut down so that the popular media can immediately discredit the winner of the election and call for the shutting down of Amtrak nation-wide as a safety precaution until further notice.


How's that for a new rumor?

[railman]

Well, it's Nov. 1st...nothing. We've been had!

[Anonymous]

Nothing!!!

[rrnut282]

Anything on the AP wire??? I haven't heard any announcement.

[railman]

if they just gave Amtrak the 1.2 billion...the difference would be phenomenal in terms of cars and service. If only, if only...but if his last day ISN'T the 2nd or whenever, I will be slightly offended if I've been duped.

[conrailman]

Tommorow is David Gunn last Day. I hope Amtrak is in better hands on Nov.2. without Mr. Gunn.[2c]

[Modelcar]

...Well, let's hope it's not true.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

More rumors. I'll believe it when I see it...

LC

you mean "hear about it"

chances are you won't see it person to person.

Kevin-

That is a slang term of art. Take it for what it's worth...

LC

[RudyRockvilleMD]

Nothing has been published about David Gunn's leaving Amtrak either in the Washington Post or on Amtrak's web site so far. If this story were true you would have certainly seen something published in both media much earlier than just a few days before the event. I will also believe it when I read it.

[RudyRockvilleMD]

Nothing has been published about David Gunn's leaving Amtrak either in the Washington Post or on Amtrak's web site. If this story were true you would have certainly seen something published in both media much earlier than 5 days before the event. I will also believe when I read it.

[Modelcar]

...Lieberman went back to the work in the Senate so why wouldn't Kerry....{if he loses}.

[ajmiller]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

QUOTE: Originally posted by ajmiller

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

After Nov.2nd John Kerry will be looking for work. Maybe Amtrak will hire him.
(Hide in bunker,wait until shooting stops[;)]).

Naw, he'll still be a senator from the People's Republic of Massachusetts.

SO, let me get this perfectly straight... I get to laugh at you when he is elected right?

You can laugh right now if you want to. Regardless, win or lose, Kerry will not be out of work. Besides, even if he loses and then quits the Senate, he has that ketchup fortune to fall back on.