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MKT Rolling Stock
Posted by Northtowne on Sunday, August 31, 2014 4:49 PM
Don't know if this kind of post is allowed, but I saw MKT 2 bay covered hopper car 576 today on the NS in Birmingham, AL, unpatched still in green, though faded. Means a lot to me to see this because I grew up along side Katy tracks in Oklahoma many yrs ago. Anyone know who it belongs to now? Northtowne
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Posted by mudchicken on Sunday, August 31, 2014 6:34 PM

UP, unless the reporting marks changed.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:33 PM

Links to a photos of MKT 575 (from 2006): http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=12798 

And 577 (2012 photo): http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=67403 

Sorry, doesn't appear to be one of 576 there (yet). 

Notes underneath the photos say they were built in April 1988, and that Missouri - Kansas - Texas is now a UP "Property Mark".

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:09 PM

The UP, if it doesn't sell it off, could repaint it gray and put its logo and slogan on the side, but it would still be MKT 575.  That's how they roll.

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Posted by dehusman on Monday, September 1, 2014 8:47 AM

It is a UP car.

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Tuesday, September 2, 2014 3:10 PM

Did it look like this MKT car I saw in Indiana last year:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/railohio/9735883614

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Posted by Northtowne on Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:59 PM
Yes, Brian Schmidt, it looks just like your photo link. It is, no doubt, a cement hopper. There are (were) quite a few cement plants served by the Katy in those days. Northtowne
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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:45 PM

I used to see green ex-MKT covered hoppers on the Great Lakes Central (ex-AA track) thru Cadillac MI.  I presume they were in foundry sand service, although they also hauled cement on the line.

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Posted by gopherstate on Wednesday, September 3, 2014 4:00 PM

I see a fair amount of green MKT 2-bay hoppers in Mankato, MN.

They are loaded with sand at a Unimin Facility in nearby Kasota, MN

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Posted by Falcon48 on Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:02 PM

Reporting marks of fallen flags can be used long after their flag has fallen.  For example, UP has a good number of fairly new cars with "CMO" marks.  These are the reporting marks of the Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha RR, a component of the C&NW that went out of existence in 1973.  But the reporting marks are still good, and are considered UP marks.  My information is that UP used them on these cars in connection with the underlying financing arrangements.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, September 5, 2014 11:49 AM

Falcon48

Reporting marks of fallen flags can be used long after their flag has fallen.  For example, UP has a good number of fairly new cars with "CMO" marks.  These are the reporting marks of the Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha RR, a component of the C&NW that went out of existence in 1973.  But the reporting marks are still good, and are considered UP marks.  My information is that UP used them on these cars in connection with the underlying financing arrangements.

When it came time to divvy up the ConRail equipment CSX & NS used the preexisting fallen flag reporting marks from within the ConRail sphere - NYC for the equipment conveyed to CSX and PRR for the equipment conveyed to NS.  During the period prior to split day equipment with those marks were accounted for in the ConRail 'bucket'; after split day they were accounted for in the CSX & NS ''buckets'.

Class 1 carriers with multiple 'fallen flag' marks within their domain may use those marks for special purposes known only to the carrier.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:01 AM

CShaveRR

The UP, if it doesn't sell it off, could repaint it gray and put its logo and slogan on the side, but it would still be MKT 575.  That's how they roll.

This morning, or late last night, I saw MKT 586 on the end of a sand train at Council Bluffs.  Still in green, although really faded and a tad rusty.

Pulling into Boone, I saw MKT 555 in the yard.  It has been repainted gray and has the UP logo.

Jeff

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