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Posted by cefinkjr on Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:24 PM

Just saw an interesting container EB on UP.  It appeared to be a cylindrical tank with a platform on top of it.  Looked like you might be able to stack another container on top of it.  Is this possible?  Must it be another similar tank-container?

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Posted by rdamon on Monday, August 1, 2016 7:27 AM

Was it one of these?

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Posted by cefinkjr on Monday, August 1, 2016 12:30 PM

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Was it one of these?

 

I think the lettering was different but that picture looks very similar to what I saw.

And UP just answered my questions.  I saw a similar tank-container EB a few minutes ago with a conventional box on top of it.

Passing thought: I'm glad I didn't have to do the programming to keep track of container loading, etc.  What a nightmare.  I recall a program for efficiently loading trucks with multiple LTL drop-offs at various customers.  I was very glad that someone else got to maintain that one; I had enough fun with managing transmissions between HQ and nine plants via 2400 BPS dial-up modems.  (Yes, kiddies, that's 2,400 BPS; not 2400 KBPS or MBPS.) 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, August 1, 2016 2:01 PM

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Passing thought: I'm glad I didn't have to do the programming to keep track of container loading, etc.  What a nightmare.  I recall a program for efficiently loading trucks with multiple LTL drop-offs at various customers.  I was very glad that someone else got to maintain that one; I had enough fun with managing transmissions between HQ and nine plants via 2400 BPS dial-up modems.  (Yes, kiddies, that's 2,400 BPS; not 2400 KBPS or MBPS.)

You had the high speed stuff at 2400 BPS - try 300 BPS.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, August 1, 2016 3:26 PM

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You had the high speed stuff at 2400 BPS - try 300 BPS.

Or 60 WPM teletype....

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, August 1, 2016 3:27 PM

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Or 60 WPM teletype....

Done them all.  Teletype was hard wire dedicated circuit.

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Posted by rdamon on Monday, August 1, 2016 3:55 PM

The days of the acoustic coupler...

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Posted by cefinkjr on Monday, August 1, 2016 6:15 PM

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BaltACD

Or 60 WPM teletype....

 

 

Done them all.  Teletype was hard wire dedicated circuit.

 

Been there, done that.  Don't think I'll ever forget the NC telephone company checking a data line by listening to it with a patch-cord and a single ear phone.  "Yep, it's OK." every time.

Then there was the guy who asked if we were sure we could put data through a phone line that fast . . . when we were upgrading from 600 to 1200 bps modems.  Lots of laughs in those days. 

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:25 AM

rdamon

The days of the acoustic coupler...

Didn't they play one show on "Unplugged"?

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 6:39 AM

Looks like UP is finally dismantling the old C&NW signal Bridges

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 7:21 AM

 I wonder if the RR Park will get one ...

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:08 AM

Just noticed the fire pit was removed..

So votes on what is next ..

Rest of the Old Del Monte Building or the BNSF Pole Line?

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:30 AM

The former fire pit caught my eye a day or two ago, but I didn't recognize what had happened.

And just now, BNSF came in from the west on the far track with four boxcars in tow.  They crossed the diamond and dropped a crewmember off at the switch.

After a few minutes, the train backed up a few feet, then again paused.  It then proceeded east, over the crossing adjacent to the park, and out of sight.  The crewmember is still at the switch...

And now, they're backing up to the switch again, as an eastbound on the near BNSF track passes.  Full train of light colored covered hoppers.

The local has backed into the siding and out of sight.

Wonder if they've held up any UP traffic - might be busy for a few more minutes!

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:45 AM

UP just had a self propelled Crane shove a gon (cover for the crane boom) and pull 2 former Cabeese East.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 11:55 AM

Dang - missed that.

BNSF coal empties west on the near track, and the local just came out with five cars.

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Posted by xjqcf on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 1:34 PM

tree68

The former fire pit caught my eye a day or two ago, but I didn't recognize what had happened.

And just now, BNSF came in from the west on the far track with four boxcars in tow.  They crossed the diamond and dropped a crewmember off at the switch.

After a few minutes, the train backed up a few feet, then again paused.  It then proceeded east, over the crossing adjacent to the park, and out of sight.  The crewmember is still at the switch...

And now, they're backing up to the switch again, as an eastbound on the near BNSF track passes.  Full train of light colored covered hoppers.

The local has backed into the siding and out of sight.

Wonder if they've held up any UP traffic - might be busy for a few more minutes!

 

 

Monitoring the scanner feed, last week I heard  a converstion between a BNSF maintainer and a train crew about some changes to the operation of the interlocking.

1) The old arrangement had a "reclear" feature which allowed a train for which a signal timed out to be recleared using a relatively simple procedure. This is no longer the case; if a train does not foul the interlocking within 15 minutes of a clear signal the signal will droip to stop, and the only way to proceed is to use the established procedure to go through the plant if a signal cannot be cleared, involving the conductor going to a trackside box and operating a control, then going to the diamonds to flag until the train goes to pick him up; I observed this once when UP's local out of cold storage (switch about a mile east on track 2) had to do this.

2) BNSF's 199 switch (the one dicussed above no requires the BNSF dispatcher to code in a request to unlock the switch (in addition to all the other procedures previously observed)

 

What you saw today was, for some reason, the switch failed to unlock despite the dispatcher repeatedly sending various commands (I guess there are several to choose from on the CAD screen). None worked until the local backed just past the home signal and tried again. Looks like this "upgrade" still has some rough edges.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:19 PM

It would be nice if audio from the road radio channels of each carrier were a part of the sites feed.

New signal installations rarely have the flexibility and ease of operation when compared to those they replaced.  Maybe a function of PTC, more likely a function of signal designers/engineers having no knowledge or understanding of railroad operations and how their designs interact with the real world.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:26 PM

BaltACD
more likely a function of signal designers/engineers having no knowledge or understanding of railroad operations and how their designs interact with the real world.

Gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside, doesn't it?

  

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:37 PM

Check out the new UP westbound signals.  Has anyone ever before seen mainline home signals at an interlocking with only one head?  Guess that's all that's really necessary in this direction.  (The eastbound signals have two heads per track because the next signal east is a control point home signal for crossovers.)

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:40 PM

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Gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside, doesn't it?

I get the cold shivers every time we have a signal suspension to install new signals on a portion of the railroad.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:51 PM

BaltACD
I get the cold shivers every time we have a signal suspension to install new signals on a portion of the railroad.

Just think of what it's like for those on the head end.

  

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Posted by cefinkjr on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 9:13 PM

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BaltACD
I get the cold shivers every time we have a signal suspension to install new signals on a portion of the railroad.

 

Just think of what it's like for those on the head end.

 

I'm chuckling at this exchange but I probably shouldn't be.  It's been a long time since I've ridden the head end --- long enough for water-cooler-creases in my backside to fill out --- but I well remember some of the "thrills" you get when arriving first at the scene of a possible accident.  Nothing to do with signal changes but I'll never forget being EB in an E-8 cab with a WB freight just clearing a grade crossing before we would get there . . . and a school bus (unable to see us) waiting for the freight to clear.  Nothing happened but it was probably the longest 2 minutes of my life. 

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Posted by xjqcf on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 5:57 AM
Now the westbound signal bridge is being dismantled... both were done early in the morning (less traffic?)
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Posted by MKT Dave on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 6:26 AM

east side verticle truss was just removed.... abouts 10-15 minutes, and it was gone. But the crossover is still there....

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 6:42 AM

Horizontal piece gone, and we can't see the other side.

Edit - Most of the support vehicles have left, by the looks of it.  And an eastbound coal (patched SP unit trailing) and a westbound stack just came through.

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Posted by MKT Dave on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 7:54 AM

The crane is still in place, just realized the fly over is part of the new structure.

Hard to see the west signal bridge being silver or aluminum.

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Posted by rdamon on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 8:31 AM
Probably a combination of lower traffic, cooler weather and not having to worry about afternoon thunderstorms with a crane boom up in the air.
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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 11:11 AM

Looks so 'open' with the CNW signal bridges gone.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 11:38 AM

Looks deceptively less important.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:13 PM

rdamon

 I wonder if the RR Park will get one ...

I don't think there's room in the park at least from an aesthetic standpoint.  The park has one of the three-headed masts from an eastbound UP searchlight signal lying on the ground; not sure what they'll do with that.

I doubt whether the bridges were dismantled in any way that would permit preservation.  The CNW structures, though, were distinctive, and I hope one of them is preserved somewhere (IRM, perhaps?) before they all vanish.  

We also need some of those distinctively-CNW horizontal color-light signals...there are a couple visible east of Oak Park.

 

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