I have started a monster thread here.....No I will not go to E-Magazine here. Every issue of TRAINS is a tangible work of art that you can hold in your hands. Kinda like Playboy which despite free stuff all over the net is still in print. BTW I keep both Trains and Playboy in my bathroom library.
( I love the ol Hunter S Thompson articals)
Original thread topic discussed some while ago.
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/166373.aspx
Many electronic devices are lost, not because they fell in water, but because the user no longer wants to touch the device, depending on what "water" it fell into!
To salvage the device:
First and foremost, IMMEDIATELY REMOVE THE BATTERY! (and any other power source!)
If you cannot remove the battery, then skip to the end of this diatribe where is says, "Before you put the battery back in or turning it on:". You don't want to add water and alcohol to the unit trying to clean it if the battery is still installed.
Also don't attempt to turn the unit on to "save some data", you want the electricity to be GONE as soon as possible.
Water is a conductor of electricity and water on the printed circuit boards in the device will conduct the full power source voltage to places where the voltage is supposed to be throttled by other components; the water will effectively bypass the throttling components and apply the higher voltages to more delicate components and possibly burn them out with the excess power.
Turning the unit on to try it before the water is removed probably kills as many devices as dropping them in something that makes the owner think it is unfit for touching!
Once the BATTERY is out of the unit...
If the water was relatively clean (fresh bath water with no bubble bath, etc.) then you may not need to rinse the unit, but if the water was dirty (mud puddle, toilet in need of flushing!, etc.) then get some DISTILLED water, (not Purified, not De-ionized, not Filtered --- "DISTILLED WATER") and POUR IT OVER THE DEVICE TO WASH AWAY the contaminated water. Don't dab it on with a cotton swab, POUR IT ON! DUMP IT ON! GLUG, GLUG DROWN THE THING! FLOOD IT!
Once the device is "clean" of contaminates. Now you want to remove the water. Do NOT put the battery back in yet!
You can speed up the drying time by rinsing the water out with alcohol (and maybe make yourself feel less queasy about touching the device if it fell into substantially less than clean water!)! Use only 91% (or greater) alcohol and do NOT use "rubbing alcohol" (it contains other things, like glycerin that will be worse than leaving the water to dry). And, again, don't just dab it on, DUMP IT ON! Hold the device over the sink and pour the alcohol over the device to let the alcohol flood/wash the water out.
Resist the temptation to use a rag or tissue to wipe the water/alcohol off the unit. Too much chance of generating a static-electric charge that will damage delicate components and ruin the device.
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Before you put the battery back in or turning it on:
You can just let it sit in front of a fan for several days to dry out. Or put it in a container of rice (any kind, as long as it is uncooked and DRY) for a day or two.
RESIST the temptation to "try it out" too soon. LET IT DRY for a LONG TIME! Hopefully you can survive the withdrawal symptoms of doing without the device for a couple of days (or preferably more!).
Just keep thinking of the cash outlay to replace a device that could be perfectly salvageable if you have patience!
Of course, if you really wanted the latest model... you could say you forgot about this lesson in salvaging electronic devices!
Semper Vaporo
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I always wonder why some magazine doesn't try to add a *bonus* magazine to the mix? Let's say that Trains Magazine came out with an *extra* magazine in say, mid January, that was that was thicker, meatier(?) and contained above average reading. That would allow the magazine to get sort of back on the correct month rotation. It would also provide a 13th issue in one fiscal year, and boost the magazine's number of sold copies by 9%. ( )
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I just read thru page 2 and I am crying....
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tree68 edblysardBut what if you drop it in the tub? I think you can get waterproof enclosures for them....
edblysardBut what if you drop it in the tub?
I think you can get waterproof enclosures for them....
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edblysard tree68 Mookie If everything is digital - what do you read in the bathroom? I've got my digital subscription on my tablet computer (Nexus 7). Quite portable, thank you! But what if you drop it in the tub?
tree68 Mookie If everything is digital - what do you read in the bathroom? I've got my digital subscription on my tablet computer (Nexus 7). Quite portable, thank you!
Mookie If everything is digital - what do you read in the bathroom?
If everything is digital - what do you read in the bathroom?
I've got my digital subscription on my tablet computer (Nexus 7). Quite portable, thank you!
But what if you drop it in the tub?
What if you drop your book in the tub? Same deal..you'll have to get a new one. The hazards of multitasking in the bathroom.
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Sam1Can you load the Kindle app on your Nexus 7? Also, can you load the Nook app? Thanks.
Kindle, yes. I haven't tried Nook, but it's in the App Store.
zugmann Ulrich Mookie If everything is digital - what do you read in the bathroom? Your Kindle... Why do you have her kindle? She probably doesn't want it back now.
Ulrich Mookie If everything is digital - what do you read in the bathroom? Your Kindle...
Your Kindle...
Why do you have her kindle? She probably doesn't want it back now.
You're right..should have stated MY kindle. But even that would be inaccurate as I don't have one, and besides, I can't multitask worth a s@#%
I used to work in the Magazine distribution trade and, while Trains my come out slightly earlier than some other monthlies they aren't really that different. If you look at the magazine rack at your local supermarket you will see that most of the monthly's come out the first or second week of the month ahead...
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Can you load the Kindle app on your Nexus 7? Also, can you load the Nook app? Thanks.
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This may provide a partial answer. http://vimeo.com/61275290
BaltACDTell you postal carriers to get faster horses and stop using the Erie Canal for time sensitive mail.
I suspect they pay the lowest possible postal rate, so they aren't handled as promptly as bills, but I also suspect that the papers get tossed in a corner and handled "as time allows."
I've had two papers arrive the same day - and this is a weekly publication...
Horses and the Erie Canal might be faster...
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Ignore this, I misread something so my reply isn't applicable now.
tree68 Every magazine I get is dated after I receive it. Even the old weekly magazines (Time, Newsweek) did the same thing. Although I sometimes get it up to two weeks after the publication date (Thanks, USPS), the weekly paper for my old hometown is usually dated a day or two after it hits the newsstand. As long as my Trains shows up once a month, I'm a happy camper.
Every magazine I get is dated after I receive it. Even the old weekly magazines (Time, Newsweek) did the same thing.
Although I sometimes get it up to two weeks after the publication date (Thanks, USPS), the weekly paper for my old hometown is usually dated a day or two after it hits the newsstand.
As long as my Trains shows up once a month, I'm a happy camper.
Tell you postal carriers to get faster horses and stop using the Erie Canal for time sensitive mail.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
And the larger question! Will print magazines survive? Will Trains' print format be viable five or ten years from now?
U.S. News and World Report is no longer available in print. Newsweek is all digital. Time is a shell of its former self. It is not likely to survive much longer as a print news medium. Many of the nation's newspapers are only available on-line. Or a tablet or smart phone or e-reader or wherever the digital world comes up with.
I switched to the digital version of Trains as soon as it became available. It is a much better format, and I don't have to look for it in the mailbox. Or get print ink on my hands! Moreover, once the Trains publisher figures it out, digital stories can be nearly real time. Readers won't have to read articles that are two or three months old. Yeah!
Oh, have I mentioned it? I am 74. I can hardly wait for the changes that I see on the horizon. The future belongs to the trends adopted by young people. Either Trains figures out what they want, or it will not survive. Especially in print format.
Maybe just keep the date off the magazine and just send it out as Issue 1 Issue 2 etc.. that way getting the magazine early or late isn't a problem. In this day and age no one expects timeliness in a monthly publication. If you want the latest news then Trains Online is where you need to go.
Every magazine is printed long before its publish date or newsstand date. Trains is not alone. Monthlies are often one to two months ahead, quarterlies can be a full quarter ahead, and weeklies even up to a half week ahead. It has been part of publishing since forever, as they say.
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The publisher wants to provide a magazine per month and they like to be "ahead" by about a month, so they have to label the magazine on the news stand as for "next month". But Subscribers expect special treatment, so they expect to get a magazine ahead of the news stands, so they have to mark the magazine two months off so that in August, the subscriber gets the October magazine, so the news stand can sell it in September.
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