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[MP57313]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh
Do the people who dont smoke get an extra ten min off because they dont go outside?joe

We non smokers take breaks anyway: surf the web, yak about stocks, whatever

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Randy Stahl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

You have ask yourself though, how attractive are you spitting all over the place. In the movies I see hot actresses smoking cigarettes. How attractive would they be if they instead started spitting up tabacco loogies?-........YUK!!!

DO NOT HUMP !!!!!

[(-D][(-D][(-D] Hazmat may also have to create placards for a visual hazard.

[StillGrande]

CDC is serious about no smoking too. This year the director announced a plan to ban all smoking on CDC owned and leased property in the near future. They have already begun pushing the smokers further and further from building entrances.

As a joke, some of us whose office window are adjacent to the smoking area discussed a smoking activity observational survey (male/female, time, number of breaks). Smokers instantly moved FURTHER from the building and around the corner. The union even had the topic come up at a meeting.

Personally, I don't care how you choose to kill yourself as long as I don't have to pay for it (with money or my health). With what is known about smoking and tobacco now, you get an honorary Darwin Award from me.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Randy Stahl

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

You have ask yourself though, how attractive are you spitting all over the place. In the movies I see hot actresses smoking cigarettes. How attractive would they be if they instead started spitting up tabacco loogies?-........YUK!!!

DO NOT HUMP !!!!!

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CBQ_Guy

NOBODY tell me I can't smoke OUTSIDE...period!!!

On UP's Property, You abide by there rules,

You can try to tell that to the judge after they've canned you and hauled your *** in jail for refusing to comply-

[Randy Stahl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

You have ask yourself though, how attractive are you spitting all over the place. In the movies I see hot actresses smoking cigarettes. How attractive would they be if they instead started spitting up tabacco loogies?-........YUK!!!

DO NOT HUMP !!!!!

[Junctionfan]

You have ask yourself though, how attractive are you spitting all over the place. In the movies I see hot actresses smoking cigarettes. How attractive would they be if they instead started spitting up tabacco loogies?-........YUK!!!

[Randy Stahl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Funny,
All this fuss over the smoke from my Doral, but not a peep about the tons of diesel fumes and locomotive exhaust smoke I breath every day.


Of course, you gotta have priorities...

Ed

Ed,
CN did ban smoking in the engine house...cigarette smoking that is. So far no one has payed any attention to the rule. I guess if they want to fire good railroaders for smoking thats OK. There are alot of shortlines that are looking for qualified help, people with more brains than stupid rules.
Randy

[edblysard]

Funny,
All this fuss over the smoke from my Doral, but not a peep about the tons of diesel fumes and locomotive exhaust smoke I breath every day.


Of course, you gotta have priorities...

Ed

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Muddy Creek

I don't believe any business has a responsibility to accomodate smokers on its property. I do not know if it is true that UP placed ashtrays on another's property (which we all can agree is silly and ill-advised) but I can fully understand a business not wishing their customers or employees being forced to walk through airborne sewage to gain entrance to their buildings.

UP has a history of prevention programs to help maintain a healtier workforce. Granted, this is bottom-line related because preventable illnesses from smoking, obesity etc are reflected in their health-care outlay. It is against their interests to do anything to accomodate smokers. In fact it is to everyone's benefit to not accomodate them. As individual workers are assuming more and more of the costs of their healh insurance, everyone is assuming more of the obligation of paying for a smoker's self-induced illness.

A report from the CDC & a Washington business group in part outlines the UP prevention programs. (You will need Adobe to read the pdf file.) http://www.wbgh.com/pdfs/preventinvestment.pdf

Wayne

I am not a smoker and don't want to work or eat around smoke. However, it is a legal product sold in the US - and people still do smoke. I appreciate the UP wanting to protect people from smokers, but to provide no place for their, the operative word here is their, employees to smoke is ludicrous at best. They hired these people at a time that smoking was still fashionable. Now all of a sudden, they want to what - get them to quit and go elsewhere? Force them into retirement? Send them to a small UP island in the Pacific?

If the laws make it illegal to grow, sell or buy tobacco, then this will make sense. Until such time, UP shot a big hole in their own foot!

Mookie

[Junctionfan]

I can understand that. I just hope that in addition to no smoking signs, they don't have to put up no spitting signs. I guess folk will have to start packing a spittoon in their lunchboxes.

[Anonymous]

I don't believe any business has a responsibility to accomodate smokers on its property. I do not know if it is true that UP placed ashtrays on another's property (which we all can agree is silly and ill-advised) but I can fully understand a business not wishing their customers or employees being forced to walk through airborne sewage to gain entrance to their buildings.

UP has a history of prevention programs to help maintain a healtier workforce. Granted, this is bottom-line related because preventable illnesses from smoking, obesity etc are reflected in their health-care outlay. It is against their interests to do anything to accomodate smokers. In fact it is to everyone's benefit to not accomodate them. As individual workers are assuming more and more of the costs of their healh insurance, everyone is assuming more of the obligation of paying for a smoker's self-induced illness.

A report from the CDC & a Washington business group in part outlines the UP prevention programs. (You will need Adobe to read the pdf file.) http://www.wbgh.com/pdfs/preventinvestment.pdf

Wayne

[Junctionfan]

If you see a bunch of folk in work clothes spiting and hocking and chewing, they might be a U.P worker.

[UPTRAIN]

Oh yeah, I've seen a commercial for what I think is for The Offices of James Sokolove, for Mesothelioma. It talks about people getting it from exposure to asbetos, and it shows people in a career that may have contracted it, one of those pictures is a railroad employee.

[UPTRAIN]

I know in Utah, in any public restaurant smoking isn't allowed. My grandpa was a little upset when they never asked, "Smoking or non?"

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

I guess chewing tabacco sales near UP territory will go up.

Look for an increasing number of redneck UP fans[:p]!

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

I guess chewing tabacco sales near UP territory will go up.

Can't you just imagine! Don't trip over my spittoon! Icky!

[Junctionfan]

I guess chewing tabacco sales near UP territory will go up.

[Anonymous]

This is only the begining. UP says it is going to be against policy for anyone to smoke at anytime on company property..and we can't even smoke out in the yard! They are uncertain just when this new healthy and enlightened policy will take effect. I assure all the UP will enforce it with the utmost zeal..firing for violations..while paying o.t. to the rest of us to cover that shift!

[Junctionfan]

WOW! I feel silly, I could have sworn that is was a Big Boy.

To expand on what M.W Hemphill said, in addition to abestosis, consider the coal dust and than consider the fumes from the oil. Both are carrsanagenic and deadly. Consider a great way to kill yourself is by running the car in your garage with the doors shut. Now I would imagine that the additives in present day gasoline make it as toxic but in the older days, lead was a great additive for gasoline. Can someone expand or correct me on this?

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

(1) Some of it is the "image" of visitors having to "run the gauntlet" getting in the front door of a new building (pretty disgusting)....1416 Dodge was bad about that and the sidewalk and air around the place reeked of smokers nicotine.

(2) Think that's bad, wait till the stories come out about the cubicle police/ architectural gestapo/ feng-shui Keystone Cops [:D].......The people who determine what a workspace in a cubicle ought to be ought to be drawn, quartered, shot and hung for their warped view of reality. (about to suffer the same fate as the folks in the new yellow peril Crystal Palace myself).....

I don't like to run the gauntlet myself - but the wide-forehead guys should have provided for the employees they already had that smoked. Maybe a roof-top room. Something either in or close by the building. Still think this is blow your toes off then go Duh planning.

Chicken house becoming more of a roaster pan, eh? Hee Hee!

Love it!

Mookie

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

If they are that concerned about smoke; why don't they get rid of their Big Boy. Just kidding.

Psssttt - they did!

REALLY!? (bogled) I thought they kept that thing around for excursion service.

3985 is a Challenger - not a Big Boy. Kid sister to the Big Boy.

Moo

[Anonymous]

Sad thing is that the Big Boys never caused cancer, and look which one we kept around.
-Daniel

[Randy Stahl]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

If they are that concerned about smoke; why don't they get rid of their Big Boy. Just kidding.

Psssttt - they did!

REALLY!? (bogled) I thought they kept that thing around for excursion service.

Big boys havn't smoked for years. UP only has that little challenger and that almost unnoticeable 4-8-4 smoking these days.
Randy

[Anonymous]

I'm wondering if a similar thing is going to happen in Fort Worth if you know what I mean [:)].

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

If they are that concerned about smoke; why don't they get rid of their Big Boy. Just kidding.

Psssttt - they did!

REALLY!? (bogled) I thought they kept that thing around for excursion service.

[mudchicken]

(1) Some of it is the "image" of visitors having to "run the gauntlet" getting in the front door of a new building (pretty disgusting)....1416 Dodge was bad about that and the sidewalk and air around the place reeked of smokers nicotine.

(2) Think that's bad, wait till the stories come out about the cubicle police/ architectural gestapo/ feng-shui Keystone Cops [:D].......The people who determine what a workspace in a cubicle ought to be ought to be drawn, quartered, shot and hung for their warped view of reality. (about to suffer the same fate as the folks in the new yellow peril Crystal Palace myself).....

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

If they are that concerned about smoke; why don't they get rid of their Big Boy. Just kidding.

Psssttt - they did!

[Junctionfan]

If they are that concerned about smoke; why don't they get rid of their Big Boy. Just kidding.