Conrail former "Triple Crown" assets?

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On a related note...
Does anybody know when Triple Crown is supposed to start running trains to Minneapolis? And whose railroad will they run on? Rumor was (from WisRail Yahoogroup) that they would be running on the UP, I would love to see some of 'em!

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-Mark Hintz
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[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

AG
Re: viewing Piqua
I can't think of a single place to recommend. The area is built up, industrial and fenced, or heavily wooded with no overpasses, just underpasses. If anything I might try the Ponitac/Wayne Trace underpass area. It's right at the hump and youhave CSX to the east and Triple Crown to the west, though you can't really see either very well from there. I usually stay moving

Yeah, *that* has been pretty much my experiance too, thanks just the same

Having recently returned from 20 years living elsewhere, I I didn't know if if something might have changed to make Piqua "accessible", that you might know of,...etc.

The way it's always been, it's set up such that THERE IS NO OTHER GOOD REASON, to be there, so it's almost like if you show up there, they GOTTA come c chase you away, almost as if by principle, if nothing else.

One of the weird "small" things I've never done, is actually see the crossing of the old Wabash and the old Pennsey, in person. Odd only because it (and immediate surroundings) are one of the very few local RR landmarks that I never "violated" as a kid.

And, it's just that realization, that is gnawing at me, in a peculiar way. Surely, there's nothing truly "unique" about it, just a buncha rails, ballast, etc Maybe a tired worn frog....But the fact that I've "never" made that one. I got my other "never" earlier this year, the west bridge crossing of the NicklePlate & Wabash, which always seemed to be out in the middle of nowhere looking at it from I-69...Had to laugh when i noticed from an arial photo that a subdivision street comes so close you could spit on it.

"Piqua" on the other hand, will not be so simple...[}:)]

[rrnut282]

AG
Re: viewing Piqua
I can't think of a single place to recommend. The area is built up, industrial and fenced, or heavily wooded with no overpasses, just underpasses. If anything I might try the Ponitac/Wayne Trace underpass area. It's right at the hump and youhave CSX to the east and Triple Crown to the west, though you can't really see either very well from there. I usually stay moving

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jesus1st

what does antigates signify. did he run over your dog or sumptin???

In most other forums I participate in, it is "The Antigates" a play on "The AntiChrist" .

Since WH Gates seems to see himself as akin to some computer God,...and I hate microsoft, I am OPPOSED to his philosophy

[Anonymous]

what does antigates signify. did he run over your dog or sumptin???

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282
That might have been train 262

Don't know. Since it had a BNSF on the point I'd say no since UP, and BNSF cannot lead because 262 runs on the Pittsburg Line which is cab signaled

[Anonymous]

I've only seen one Triple Crown out of the hundreds I see every year (I live near a roadrailer terminal) that had a while patch where the CR logo used to be.

BTW someone mentioned 262, don't see 262 that often but I see its counterpart (261) on almost every railfan trip around here.

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Wabash1
yes NS started Triple Crown. When they wanted to expand the route structure into the NE (like NYC) NS needed to run on Conrail. As part of the deal, Conrail bought about 50% of Triple Crown and that's when the dual owner's logos appeared. At the split-up of Conrail, NS got all of Triple Crown back and most of the tracks it ran on, too.

[rrnut282]

Not likely. If you look for the TC trailers with the blue stripe near the bottom, those are trailers NS bought from UP when UP exited the roadrailer business.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

I didnt know that conrail had any triple crown as this is always been a ns thing. Ns invented triple crown and called thier trains triple crown. Now if i understand you right csx took triple crown .greedy ole csx next you will be telling me that the up wants royalties for the name. and logos.

No, not what I was saying at all.

Lets try this from another vantage point, if you look at older Triple Crown boxes, you will see a "Conrail" logo, right up next to the "NS"....why do you suppose that is?

My guess is that Conrail musta had a share in triple crown

CSX and NS grabbed conrail and made a wish, and I was just wondering if CSX took any of conrails share in TC.
Folks here say "no they didn't"
So, on CSX track, I saw an ALL NS train of Triple crown cars,....pulled by a BNSF loco,.... and wondered who the heck was driving? What would really make my day would have been to find out a UP crew was running it...[:-,]

[wabash1]

I didnt know that conrail had any triple crown as this is always been a ns thing. Ns invented triple crown and called thier trains triple crown. Now if i understand you right csx took triple crown .greedy ole csx next you will be telling me that the up wants royalties for the name. and logos.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

You know Rail America is trying to lease that line from CSX from Lima to Gary?

That might have been train 262 which uses the former Pennsy owned by CXS to get to the former Pennsy owned by NS.

Also look for Triple Crown to add a second yard lead so two trains can switch trailers simultaneously instead of just one. Work should start in Piqua Yard in about 3 weeks.

Do you know of any good vantage points to observe Piqua from?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

You know Rail America is trying to lease that line from CSX from Lima to Gary?

That might have been train 262 which uses the former Pennsy owned by CXS to get to the former Pennsy owned by NS.

Also look for Triple Crown to add a second yard lead so two trains can switch trailers simultaneously instead of just one. Work should start in Piqua Yard in about 3 weeks.

No I didn't know that.

I bet the deal goes through though. Only very seldom do I see a CSX train in this town, more often on the line in question I see NS and some outfit with green locos with white insignia ..."IHRC" I think?

[rrnut282]

You know Rail America is trying to lease that line from CSX from Lima to Gary?

That might have been train 262 which uses the former Pennsy owned by CXS to get to the former Pennsy owned by NS.

Also look for Triple Crown to add a second yard lead so two trains can switch trailers simultaneously instead of just one. Work should start in Piqua Yard in about 3 weeks.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

East from where? What line are you referring to?

At the split NS recieved all of the Triple Crown assets as CSX didn't want them. CSX had their own Road-Railer operation from Detroit to Atlanta in competition with NS and got its but kicked even though they used F units to pull them!

the former Pennsey main through Ft Wayne In.

thanks for the info

So, that musta been A NS train with BNSF loco, on CSX track? wonderful

[Anonymous]

Yeah they all went to NS. The only major thing done after the merger was moving the eastern Roadrailer terminal from Newark, NJ to Bethlehem, Pa. Thats one of my favorie trains to see when railfanning[:)]

[rrnut282]

East from where? What line are you referring to?

At the split NS recieved all of the Triple Crown assets as CSX didn't want them. CSX had their own Road-Railer operation from Detroit to Atlanta in competition with NS and got its but kicked even though they used F units to pull them!

[Anonymous]

Looking at the side of older Triple Crown boxes, one see's conrail insignia right up next to NS

NS and CSX split Conrail. Anybody know if CSX picked up any of the Triple crown assets, or if they all went to NS?

Why I ask is today, headed east on the Former Penn-central/conrail (and I had thought that this line had been split in ownership, with the westbound line going to NS, the east to CSX) was a long line of Triple crown trailers, headed up by a single BNSF engine.

And I was just wondering WTH mighta been operating that thing