QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman Larry Hull is reasonably far from Montreal, it's slightly more Expensive (more inland) .775! Ha i wish.. it's more like 89.9 here! <Blah, Blah, Blah> And if you don't like the way I feel, your entitled to say so. [:)] It's alright larry, Relax a bit. No need to jump down my throat. Kev - I'd be upset if I had to pay such a mark-up on a magazine, too. I'll get off your case as soon as you acknowledge that the elevated price you are paying for TRAINS is not the responsibility of the publisher, but rather of the people who actually sell you the magazine. That's the point I've been trying to make all along, and which Ed makes as well.
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman Larry Hull is reasonably far from Montreal, it's slightly more Expensive (more inland) .775! Ha i wish.. it's more like 89.9 here! <Blah, Blah, Blah> And if you don't like the way I feel, your entitled to say so. [:)] It's alright larry, Relax a bit. No need to jump down my throat.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 [#offtopic]Since you did, the price of gas here in northern NY is $1.799 per gallon, that equates to $1.90 for 4 liters. Ohhhh, POOR baby, $1.80 for gassy-wassy for the go-go car, Ohhhhh.. HA HA AHAHAHAAHHHAHHAAHAHAHHHAAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!![(-D][(-D][(-D] QUIT YER WHINNIN' YA BABY... $1.80 ??? Hell, we'd be dancing in the streets NAKED if prices were THAT low! Move out here to the LEFT coast where you get to pay $2.20 [:0][censored] average for a gallon of regular unleaded go-go juice! Super Go-Go is up to $2.70 or higher in places! So as our Govenor would say " Sock it oup lettle gurly mon!"[(-D][:-,][D)]
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 [#offtopic]Since you did, the price of gas here in northern NY is $1.799 per gallon, that equates to $1.90 for 4 liters.
QUOTE: So as our Governor would say " Sock it oup lettle gurly mon!"[(-D][:-,][D)]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 I can see I'm talking to a brick wall here, but: QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora But how many subscribers/readers do Newsweek and Rolling Stone have? Undoubtedly many times the number that Trains has. What Newsweek and Rolling Stone lose by having lower prices, they make up for by selling many more copies, and by being able to charge more for advertising. You can't really compare a special interest publication like Trains with a mass media publication like Newsweek. In answer to Nora's questions: Newsweek has an average paid circulation of 3,122,407 for the six months ending Dec 31, 2003. It ranked 16th, according to Ad Age. Rolling Stone ranked 66th, with an average paid circulation of 1,288,324 for the same period. The Ad Age survey listed the top 200 consumer magazines. None of the RR oriented or other specialty magazines mentioned so far are in the top 200. Circulation for #200, Sound & Vision, is 401,435. Perhaps the TRAINS folks can update us on current circulation figures. I don't have a copy handy that has the annual notice. National Geographic, #5 with 6.6 million paid circulation, gets nearly $3 per issue for a subscription! That's $216,000,000 gross per year! The top 10, in order: AARP, Readers Digest, TV Guide, Better Homes & Gardens, National Geographic, Good Housekeeping, Family Circle, Woman's Day, Time, Ladies's Home Journal. LHJ had an average paid circulation of 4.1 million issues, AARP had 22 million, RD, 11 million. That would mean that all of our magazines are under 400,000 circulation. Based on what I can see, TRAINS, and all of the other RR magazines we read, appear to be comparably priced with other specialty magazines. And, based on what I've read here, everyone seems to think that the money is well spent. I personally don't use old issues for diapers (I have virtually every issue I've every gotten), but that would certainly qualify as value added...[:(] Don't forget that RMC and Railfan & Railroad, two very similar competitors to MR and TRAINS, are comparably priced. Both are published by Carstens. So - back to the bottom line. If you are paying more than $6.95 CDN plus applicable taxes at the newstand/hobbyshop/etc, then somebody is making some extra money on your purchase. And it's not TRAINS. Your anger is misdirected. If you want to complain about something, try the price of your gas. Now that is outrageous.[:(!] Off [soapbox] Ok Larry- Why would i want to complain about Gas prices? Is this the Mobil forum? no.. and beside there not that bad, Well at least up here, The Gov't of Quebec has a maximum Gas prices can rise to- like our Drug perscriptions- It's all regulated, there is not 570% profit margin up here, I don't know what the price is down there, But up here, they can't go any higher. daggome- It Sais Trains (upper left corner) not Exxon. Besides if i REALLY had a probelm with Gas prices, i was born with two legs, and am a firm believer in walking to places, walk to work walk to shop- about 5 miles a day, I usually Jog 6 or 7 miles a day. One foot in front of the other! [:)]
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 I can see I'm talking to a brick wall here, but: QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora But how many subscribers/readers do Newsweek and Rolling Stone have? Undoubtedly many times the number that Trains has. What Newsweek and Rolling Stone lose by having lower prices, they make up for by selling many more copies, and by being able to charge more for advertising. You can't really compare a special interest publication like Trains with a mass media publication like Newsweek. In answer to Nora's questions: Newsweek has an average paid circulation of 3,122,407 for the six months ending Dec 31, 2003. It ranked 16th, according to Ad Age. Rolling Stone ranked 66th, with an average paid circulation of 1,288,324 for the same period. The Ad Age survey listed the top 200 consumer magazines. None of the RR oriented or other specialty magazines mentioned so far are in the top 200. Circulation for #200, Sound & Vision, is 401,435. Perhaps the TRAINS folks can update us on current circulation figures. I don't have a copy handy that has the annual notice. National Geographic, #5 with 6.6 million paid circulation, gets nearly $3 per issue for a subscription! That's $216,000,000 gross per year! The top 10, in order: AARP, Readers Digest, TV Guide, Better Homes & Gardens, National Geographic, Good Housekeeping, Family Circle, Woman's Day, Time, Ladies's Home Journal. LHJ had an average paid circulation of 4.1 million issues, AARP had 22 million, RD, 11 million. That would mean that all of our magazines are under 400,000 circulation. Based on what I can see, TRAINS, and all of the other RR magazines we read, appear to be comparably priced with other specialty magazines. And, based on what I've read here, everyone seems to think that the money is well spent. I personally don't use old issues for diapers (I have virtually every issue I've every gotten), but that would certainly qualify as value added...[:(] Don't forget that RMC and Railfan & Railroad, two very similar competitors to MR and TRAINS, are comparably priced. Both are published by Carstens. So - back to the bottom line. If you are paying more than $6.95 CDN plus applicable taxes at the newstand/hobbyshop/etc, then somebody is making some extra money on your purchase. And it's not TRAINS. Your anger is misdirected. If you want to complain about something, try the price of your gas. Now that is outrageous.[:(!] Off [soapbox]
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora But how many subscribers/readers do Newsweek and Rolling Stone have? Undoubtedly many times the number that Trains has. What Newsweek and Rolling Stone lose by having lower prices, they make up for by selling many more copies, and by being able to charge more for advertising. You can't really compare a special interest publication like Trains with a mass media publication like Newsweek.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz ...and yet, you have no problem using this FREE forum, provided at no charge for us. Perhaps Trains should charge a user fee for this, to help offset the losses accrued due to bon marché customers dropping out on account of a pennies-per-day price increase. Arrêtez votre pleurnicherie. Si vous n'aimez pas le prix, n'achetez pas le magazine !
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie QUOTE: Originally posted by wallyworld Ill tell you what I told my wife-the cost is well worth it because we can use the old issues in the place of Pampers. EEEEwwwwww.......
QUOTE: Originally posted by wallyworld Ill tell you what I told my wife-the cost is well worth it because we can use the old issues in the place of Pampers.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman Newsweek turns out to be 1.19 an issue, Rolling stone although they may distribute their advertisments worse then Trains, i paid what... 99 cents each? If you look at Trains magazine, the ads are small, but still- about 10% of the magazine is ads, they are jsut better distributed throught the magazine.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Kev And i'm sorry Larry, but i'm not going to target Pampers or Huggies because the price of Trains magazine is too high> i can assume most people, they like to target the people who are responsible. Trains and Trains magazine... I see a correlation of about R=0.95 (that means REALLY good)
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh Kev its got to be the exchange rate or the postal rates which are controlled by the govts. stay safe Joe
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