Went hunting, shot some pics of the Hudson 2816 steam trials.

[Anonymous]

Got some pictures today of the Hudson 2816 steam trails. CP is testing the 2816 between the Coquitlam yard and Mission in the lower mainland, British Columbia, Canada.

Almost didn't go, but thought I should go and see if I can sneek a peek at the last minute.

Be nice, these pics are just me and my little digital camera, just took them for fun [:)].







Took this one while driving in my car and shooting across out the passenger window at 60 Km/h (my car is still in one piece too [;)])

It turned out to be a great day for train hunting!

[UPTRAIN]

Thanks for sharing these with us.......keep em coming...nothing like a hudson under steam......er.....any kind of steam under steam.

[Anonymous]

Nice stuff -thanks for posting that.

You mentioned these were "trials." Do you know what they were testing?

Thx again - Stack

[edblysard]

Macguy,
You should send the first or lead photo to Eric, for the photo of the day, good looking photo.
Ed

[JoeKoh]

Nice shots
keep em coming!
stay safe
Joe

[Anonymous]

Nice! As usual NS and CSX don't have a good steam trip policy so nothing good ever is around. Maybe someday...

[daveklepper]

Your pictures are nothing to be ashamed of . Quality is good enoough to enjoy. Thanks for sharing. Dave Klepper

[Modelcar]

...Not too many of us have access to something like this very often so thanks for posting for all to see. Agree with Ed on sending the first shot for Bergie to post....
Question...Isn't that a feed-water heater on top of the smoke box chamber...?

[Anonymous]

LOOKIGN REALLY FINE!!


YEAH!

CPR STEAM!!

[Anonymous]

Thanks for posting those shots, I like the pan shot the best. Nuthing like big steam at speed.
-justin

[Anonymous]

Ver excellent photos!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for posting them!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dblstack

Nice stuff -thanks for posting that.

You mentioned these were "trials." Do you know what they were testing?

Thx again - Stack

Not sure if they were really testing for anything specific, they plan to run this loco on tourist runs all this summer, so I think they are just basically putting the loco through its paces.

They made a few unscheduled stops here and there for various reasons, but everything seemed to go well.

It was a good day, it brought back lots of memories of when I used to ride on the Royal Hudson 2860 tourist train during the summer when I was little.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...Not too many of us have access to something like this very often so thanks for posting for all to see. Agree with Ed on sending the first shot for Bergie to post....
Question...Isn't that a feed-water heater on top of the smoke box chamber...?

Not 100% sure on that one.

I was kinda wondering about it, because the 2816s sister locomotive (2860) never had that same tank.

I was kinda wondering if that was originally there or was added on later?
Anyone else know about this?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by macguy

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...Not too many of us have access to something like this very often so thanks for posting for all to see. Agree with Ed on sending the first shot for Bergie to post....
Question...Isn't that a feed-water heater on top of the smoke box chamber...?

Not 100% sure on that one.

I was kinda wondering about it, because the 2816s sister locomotive (2860) never had that same tank.

I was kinda wondering if that was originally there or was added on later?
Anyone else know about this?

Not sure either, though my first thought was "what an odd place to put the airtank", it does have the appearnce of being an airtank, and may infact be for the airbrakes. they may have moved it here, since the spot that the tank normally would be might have been used to hide some required new safety features.

Jay

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by macguy

Got some pictures today of the Hudson 2816 steam trails. CP is testing the 2816 between the Coquitlam yard and Mission in the lower mainland, British Columbia, Canada.

Almost didn't go, but thought I should go and see if I can sneek a peek at the last minute.

Be nice, these pics are just me and my little digital camera, just took them for fun [:)].







Took this one while driving in my car and shooting across out the passenger window at 60 Km/h (my car is still in one piece too [;)])

It turned out to be a great day for train hunting!

VERY,VERY! Good Pictures!

Please Drive Safely!!!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

Nice! As usual NS and CSX don't have a good steam trip policy so nothing good ever is around. Maybe someday...

Well, with the whole CSX thing, the C&O 614 trials suposedly did steam in. CSX, unlike UP, has poor quality track, that gets destroyed by steam and diesels both, just the steamers do a better job at pounding the rails. You'd have to have a MOW crew behind every steam run..[xx(]

[Anonymous]

Nice shots MacGuy, I particularly enjoyed the one you took at 60km/h from your car. keep up the hobby!

[Modelcar]

...Those tank like looking items on top of the smoke box were on quite a few engines when they were in their hey day....We need a real railroader with some grey in his hair to confirm what I think is a feed water heater....

[cprted]

QUOTE: Originally posted by NTDN

QUOTE: Originally posted by macguy

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...Not too many of us have access to something like this very often so thanks for posting for all to see. Agree with Ed on sending the first shot for Bergie to post....
Question...Isn't that a feed-water heater on top of the smoke box chamber...?

Not 100% sure on that one.

I was kinda wondering about it, because the 2816s sister locomotive (2860) never had that same tank.

I was kinda wondering if that was originally there or was added on later?
Anyone else know about this?

Not sure either, though my first thought was "what an odd place to put the airtank", it does have the appearnce of being an airtank, and may infact be for the airbrakes. they may have moved it here, since the spot that the tank normally would be might have been used to hide some required new safety features.

Jay

The "tank" on top of the smokebox is indeed a feedwater heater. 2860 and other streamlined locomotives had their feedwater heaters inside the smokebox so it wouldn't interfere with the aerodynamics. The air tanks for the brakes are typically located uner the running boards.

[Anonymous]

Ok, did some digging into my reference books, found plenty of Hudson's with Feedwater heaters. the majority were square and well set on the hood in front of the smokestack, there were a few with cyclinders encased in the hood and did not sit on top of the hood, but were visible with round extrusions on both sides. None had one prominatly sitting on top of the hood.

After reviewing the references and again looking at the pictures, it is indeed the Airtank, as suspected, There is an obvious line from the tank to a box just between the rear set of driver's, which is also connected to a line t the cab that would confirm this. As stated, i think the spot the Airtank was (under the running boards), has been commondered for some required equipment to bring the engine up to code, yet not deter from the look of the era, thus they moved the Airtank to the top of the hood.

Jay

[Anonymous]

QUOTE:
The "tank" on top of the smokebox is indeed a feedwater heater. 2860 and other streamlined locomotives had their feedwater heaters inside the smokebox so it wouldn't interfere with the aerodynamics. The air tanks for the brakes are typically located uner the running boards.

QUOTE:
After reviewing the references and again looking at the pictures, it is indeed the Airtank, as suspected

Now I'm confused.......if there originally was a feedwater heater there and now it's an airtank where did the feedwater heater go?

[espeefoamer]

That is most likely an Elesco feedwater heater. They were common on some roads.The photos were great![:D]I foamed all over this computer,and now they won't let me use the ones at the library anymore.[:(][;)]

[eastside]

The subject title reminds me of a recent book "Eats Shoots and Leaves". Not about a diner who shoots his gun and leaves the scene but about the diet of pandas. [:D]

[Modelcar]

....So the jury is still out as to whether we have a feedwater heater or an air tank. I won't wager any funds on it but I seem to remember chatter of the feedwater heater being located at that spot.

[Modelcar]

....Ok, just was over on Google and hunted down photos of Elesco feedwater heaters and yes, it shows them mounted right ahead of the smoke stack and on the same engine you can see the air tanks mounted in the usual place under the running boards. So I'm convinced that is what were seeing in the photos in this post of the Hudson.

[edblysard]

Units 2800 through 2819 has Elsco feedwater heaters, (the air tank looking thing in front of the stack) units 2820 through 2864 had them too, but hidden in a semi-streamlined jacket.
2820 to 2864 also had hidden, or domeless boilers, sand domes and steam domes were very short and also hidden by the streamlined effect.

At least 2 of the last units were oil burnners.

Look close at the photos, you can see the air tanks just under the running boards.

Ed

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Units 2800 through 2819 has Elsco feedwater heaters, (the air tank looking thing in front of the stack) units 2820 through 2864 had them too, but hidden in a semi-streamlined jacket.
2820 to 2864 also had hidden, or domeless boilers, sand domes and steam domes were very short and also hidden by the streamlined effect.

At least 2 of the last units were oil burnners.

Look close at the photos, you can see the air tanks just under the running boards.

Ed

That sounds right to me, I remember when the Royal Hudson 2860 was still running on BC Rail it was much more streamlined than the 2816. The 2860 had no visible feedwater heater and had a much less clutered looking boiler.

I always prefered the 2860, but when I heard they were running the 2816 I didn't hesitate to go watch. [^]

Both burn oil.

[Anonymous]

Here's a comparison:


2860


2816

[Modelcar]

....2860 appears to have a raised streamlined jacket installed over the boiler plating even to the point of hiding the domes somewhat on top of the boiler. But, look closely one can see dimples where the feedwater heater must be installed....right ahead of the stack....It is also a very nice picture of it.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....2860 appears to have a raised streamlined jacket installed over the boiler plating even to the point of hiding the domes somewhat on top of the boiler. But, look closely one can see dimples where the feedwater heater must be installed....right ahead of the stack....It is also a very nice picture of it.

HA! I see the dimples, I never even noticed them.

Like you said, looks like all they did was pop a new top overtop the boiler.

Neat.