The Chattanooga area on the Southern was quite interesting to me. At Ooltewah, the Knoxville Division came in from Knoxvile--going west with odd-numbered trains and the Atlanta Division came in from Atlanta, going north, with even numbered trains. On the way to Chattanooga proper, the CNO&TP, going south, with odd-numbered trains joined the parade at Citico Junction. On the other side of Chattanooga, the Memphis Division trains, with odd numbers, headed west, went to Wauhatchee along with AGS trains, also with odd numbers headed south. The difficulties were apparently solved with the Terminal ETT showing the passenger trains (freights apparently ran extra in the terminal) as all headed west, with odd numbers, from Ooltewah to Wauhatchee. Of course, the passenger trains from Atlanta left the Terminal on the CNO&TP.
I wonder how the traffic is now managed.
Johnny
awalker1829 (proper engineers design locomotives, not drive them)
(proper engineers design locomotives, not drive them)
Steam era hoggers could get into serious trouble quickly, so they get my respect. Understanding how it works and functions came with the responsibility.
mudchickenSteam era hoggers could get into serious trouble quickly, so they get my respect. Understanding how it works and functions came with the responsibility.
Indeed - the cause of the NYC Gulf Curve wreck was something that would have had little consequence on a Diesel - the engineer closed the throttle. He reportedly recognized his error almost immediately, but it was too late.
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zugmannI always preferred the term engineman myself. Or motorman if you were running an electric.
Totally unaccetable! Totally!
Your terms are not gender neutral.
Yet, in Europe, people who we call airplane mechanics are called engineers...puzzling...
I have always considered "man" to be gender neutral... it is the female of the species that is afforded the special distinction of a gender specific title of honor. Too bad most don't see it that way.
We all would like an honorific in our lives and a woMAN gets it just by being born that way.
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
Most muggles call somebody an "engineer" when it's workaday technology being controlled/repaired/managed by folks smarter than them. Get off in the weeds with the really weird stuff and they become "scientists".
The press and the media lump them all together along with most other professionals, tradesmen, employees and craftsmen and call them "workers". They themselves tend to get into bed with politicians and lawyers. (and sink to that level in the ooze. There are only a very few real
Backshop Yet, in Europe, people who we call airplane mechanics are called engineers...puzzling...
zugmann zardoz I dunno; my certificate says that I am a qualified Locomotive Engineer (p.s. I worked in the operating department, not the driving department). I always preferred the term engineman myself. Or motorman if you were running an electric. Locomotive tamer is also acceptable.
zardoz I dunno; my certificate says that I am a qualified Locomotive Engineer (p.s. I worked in the operating department, not the driving department).
I always preferred the term engineman myself. Or motorman if you were running an electric.
Locomotive tamer is also acceptable.
How about Hog Head? It was used a lot by the older CNW guys who hired out in the 1970s and earlier. It's use is fading now, like other railroad slang.
Jeff
jeffhergert zugmann zardoz I dunno; my certificate says that I am a qualified Locomotive Engineer (p.s. I worked in the operating department, not the driving department). I always preferred the term engineman myself. Or motorman if you were running an electric. Locomotive tamer is also acceptable. How about Hog Head? It was used a lot by the older CNW guys who hired out in the 1970s and earlier. It's use is fading now, like other railroad slang. Jeff
It's use was common on CSX and it's predecessor lines. The 'southern' carriers employees (ACL, SAL, L&N) tended to us 'railfan' jargon more than the 'northern' carriers.
Hog Head and Hogger were common on all parts of the property.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Hoghead is still commonly used around here. A trainee is a piglet.
The caboose used to be called the brain box...
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
greyhoundsTotally unaccetable! Totally! Your terms are not gender neutral.
I'll keep that in mind the next time my boss* calls me a "son of a ....".
Maybe I want to be the "Daughter of a ...." instead.
* - or anyone. I'm sure many in this forum have referred to me as such.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any
greyhounds zugmann I always preferred the term engineman myself. Or motorman if you were running an electric. Totally unaccetable! Totally! Your terms are not gender neutral.
zugmann I always preferred the term engineman myself. Or motorman if you were running an electric.
Near its beginning the Canadian rulebook states the the use of masculine gender includes the feminine.
If a woman objects to the syllable "man" in a title, I understand they like to substitute "person", (thus Engineperson, Motorperson), but note that also contains a gender specific word, "son", thus she should want to be referred to as a "Engineperdaughter", "Motorperdaughter", or generically, a member of the "huperdaughter" species.
Getting back to the original subject matter, the biggest difference between British Drivers and North Amerian Engineers si that:
There are close-to-Zero grade cfossings in Great Britain (OK, the UK if you like that better), and nearly all RoW is fenced. One health hazard for North American engineers is mostly absent in the UK/GB.
Semper Vaporo If a woman objects to the syllable "man" in a title, I understand they like to substitute "person", (thus Engineperson, Motorperson), but note that also contains a gender specific word, "son", thus she should want to be referred to as a "Engineperdaughter", "Motorperdaughter", or generically, a member of the "huperdaughter" species.
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Murphy Siding Well, since zugmann isn't gender nuetral it would only seem fair that he be able to describe himsel in terms that are not gender nuetral.Mischief
Did you just assume my gender neutrality status? #something.
zardozgreyhounds zugmann I always preferred the term engineman myself. Or motorman if you were running an electric. Totally unaccetable! Totally! Your terms are not gender neutral. Enginebeing......enginecreature........enginething.......engineentity......enginehuman..... Ya know....with the world situation as it is, with ice caps melting, democracies being subverted, self-serving politicians' only concern being reelected, etc, perhaps we should focus our energies and efforts to correcting the real problems, instead of being such whiny, oversensitive, spineless droids.
Zugman, it was a sarcastic joke.
greyhoundsZugman, it was a sarcastic joke.
You missed enginepony.
I can't recall the last time I took anything 100% seriously on here.
Most of us consider the souce.
Electroliner 1935Most of us consider the souce.
*looks around*.
zugmann Electroliner 1935 Most of us consider the souce. *looks around*.
Electroliner 1935 Most of us consider the souce.
as valid a source as any and more valid than most.
Actually Mr. Klepper there are a lot of grade and level crossings in the U.K. Outside of London in many small towns such as Brockenhurst, Ford or Feltham, there are crossings adjacent to the stations. But, yes, the entire ROW is fenced in everywhere except along heritage lines such as the Bluebell or Mid-Hants railways.
One thing that they have at crossings are gates that block the entire road. You don't hear of many crossing deaths as you can't drive around the gates.
At Ford (which is near Brighton,) you walk down the platform, walk across the tracks and on the left is one of the best model train shops I've ever been in, The Engine Shed Ltd. It's funny, that's about the only thing near to the station, there's not much more around there.
54light15Actually Mr. Klepper there are a lot of grade and level crossings in the U.K.
In part, though, these aren't the American-style "open until a train approaches" kind: they are locked gates through the fenced surround, and they often involve specific permission (via a telephone or intercom to a nearby signal box) before they are unlocked for passage. I remember at least one YouTube video on the Web describing potential pitfalls if someone dawdled going across such a crossing (with a tractor and hay wagon IIRC) after obtaining permission.
It's interesting to consider whether access across 'gated' crossings could be enabled via contemporary RFID pass technology -- like the chips in automated toll systems, with the gates down otherwise. This would tie in with a permanent camera system (linked to local response) as I've proposed for identifying crossing violators.
zardoz awalker1829 (proper engineers design locomotives, not drive them) I dunno; my certificate says that I am a qualified Locomotive Engineer (p.s. I worked in the operating department, not the driving department).
I dunno; my certificate says that I am a qualified Locomotive Engineer (p.s. I worked in the operating department, not the driving department).
This comic appeared a few days before my 47th birthday.
https://www.gocomics.com/rubes/2010/04/22
zardozI dunno; my certificate says that I am a qualified Locomotive Engineer (p.s. I worked in the operating department, not the driving department).
Mine says Transportation Certificate or something. And there's this photo of this really ugly dude on it. Probably so nobody would steal it.
Ours don't have photos.
But they do say "only valid while employed by CN Rail". Guess they're worried about us jumping ship!
zugmann zardoz I dunno; my certificate says that I am a qualified Locomotive Engineer (p.s. I worked in the operating department, not the driving department). Mine says Transportation Certificate or something. And there's this photo of this really ugly dude on it. Probably so nobody would steal it.
Overmod- I have seen such sideways swing-open gates as you describe on heritage railways where they cross public roads but in the towns I mention, the gates drop down from a pivot point and most but not all have a series of vertical bars that are situated along the length of the gate that hang vertically when the gate is down. I wish they made those in N scale so I could put them on my layout.
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