The most basic of rail car movers!
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Polish Locomotive
My brothers were not Poles, but one spoke to me, more than 50 years ago, of moving cars that way at the TC&I wire mill in Ensley.
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BaltACDThe most basic of rail car movers!
I would say 2nd most basic. Dropping them would be most basic.
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zugmann BaltACD The most basic of rail car movers! I would say 2nd most basic. Dropping them would be most basic.
BaltACD The most basic of rail car movers!
Can't drop up a grade. Wouldn't want to use it up much of a grade, but it can move a car up small inclines. Many tracks aren't graded as they ideally should be to facilitate dropping.
BaltACDCan't drop up a grade. Wouldn't want to use it up much of a grade, but it can move a car up small inclines. Many tracks aren't graded as they ideally should be to facilitate dropping.
Which is why it is "basic".
Many of the feed mills we serve are graded the right way. But they are mostly old places, so I guess some thought was put into that sort of thing back then.
Deggesty My brothers were not Poles, but one spoke to me, more than 50 years ago, of moving cars that way at the TC&I wire mill in Ensley.
The West Milwaukee shops were 70% Poles.
cx500 You also presuppose that the shipper/receiver who has to move the railcar has a supply of compressed air available, with a connection at the physical location of the car. Remember, it could have been a string of cars set off at the siding. Some use trackmobiles, a lot may use cable winches, especially smaller grain elevators. And then the occasional tow by rope and pick-up truck in a pinch. You can even move rail equipment by hand with a "carmover"; slow but surprisingly effective, several inches at a time.
You also presuppose that the shipper/receiver who has to move the railcar has a supply of compressed air available, with a connection at the physical location of the car. Remember, it could have been a string of cars set off at the siding. Some use trackmobiles, a lot may use cable winches, especially smaller grain elevators. And then the occasional tow by rope and pick-up truck in a pinch. You can even move rail equipment by hand with a "carmover"; slow but surprisingly effective, several inches at a time.
zugmann Shadow the Cats owner Here is how easy it is for one of my drivers to drop a trailer for a customer. He spots it in the location our customer wants it. Lowers the landing gear disconnects 2 airlines climbs in the cab pulls a knob on his dash and pulls away. No climbing to crank a brakewheel or using a brake stick to crank it on it either. Just crank the dolly legs down disconnect 2 airlines and remotely pull his 5th wheel and they are gone. Ok, then can the customer throw a chain around the trailer and drag it over top an unloading pit? Then let it roll down via gravity so it is out of the way for the next one? I can probably crank a brake on faster than it takes someone to lower landing gear, BTW. Mrs. B., not to sound disrepectful - but there's a pretty large difference how railcars are handled vs. trucks. Namely restricted space of where there are actual rails. Then you have the trucks that think those shiny things make great parking spaces. Ugh. But on a broader scale, it's not a matter of the actual brakes. It's a matter of how railcars are handled at many industries. It would be like you taking the wheels off your trailer when you drop it off. It still can be moved - but it isn't practical.
Shadow the Cats owner Here is how easy it is for one of my drivers to drop a trailer for a customer. He spots it in the location our customer wants it. Lowers the landing gear disconnects 2 airlines climbs in the cab pulls a knob on his dash and pulls away. No climbing to crank a brakewheel or using a brake stick to crank it on it either. Just crank the dolly legs down disconnect 2 airlines and remotely pull his 5th wheel and they are gone.
Ok, then can the customer throw a chain around the trailer and drag it over top an unloading pit? Then let it roll down via gravity so it is out of the way for the next one? I can probably crank a brake on faster than it takes someone to lower landing gear, BTW.
Mrs. B., not to sound disrepectful - but there's a pretty large difference how railcars are handled vs. trucks. Namely restricted space of where there are actual rails. Then you have the trucks that think those shiny things make great parking spaces. Ugh.
But on a broader scale, it's not a matter of the actual brakes. It's a matter of how railcars are handled at many industries. It would be like you taking the wheels off your trailer when you drop it off. It still can be moved - but it isn't practical.
That'd have to be one big caging bolt for a maxibrake on a railroad car............
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zugmann BaltACD Can't drop up a grade. Wouldn't want to use it up much of a grade, but it can move a car up small inclines. Many tracks aren't graded as they ideally should be to facilitate dropping. Many of the feed mills we serve are graded the right way. But they are mostly old places, so I guess some thought was put into that sort of thing back then.
BaltACD Can't drop up a grade. Wouldn't want to use it up much of a grade, but it can move a car up small inclines. Many tracks aren't graded as they ideally should be to facilitate dropping.
- PDN.
Randy Stahl Deggesty My brothers were not Poles, but one spoke to me, more than 50 years ago, of moving cars that way at the TC&I wire mill in Ensley. The West Milwaukee shops were 70% Poles.
Is that why they used to have pole pockets on locomotives
rdamon Randy Stahl Deggesty My brothers were not Poles, but one spoke to me, more than 50 years ago, of moving cars that way at the TC&I wire mill in Ensley. The West Milwaukee shops were 70% Poles. Is that why they used to have pole pockets on locomotives
BaltACD rdamon Randy Stahl Deggesty My brothers were not Poles, but one spoke to me, more than 50 years ago, of moving cars that way at the TC&I wire mill in Ensley. The West Milwaukee shops were 70% Poles. Is that why they used to have pole pockets on locomotives
I suppose Euc was "participating" in poling as well?
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And again: http://wjactv.com/news/local/breaking-four-train-cars-derail-in-hyndman
In the new derailment, only 4 cars out of 175 derailed. Sounds like they were luckier this time.
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