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I Wish for some alco engines

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I Wish for some alco engines
Posted by jwixom on Monday, August 4, 2003 9:52 PM
I wi***hat they would come out with more alco engines. i would like to see some c430,and some high nose C420.

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I Wish for some alco engines
Posted by jwixom on Monday, August 4, 2003 9:52 PM
I wi***hat they would come out with more alco engines. i would like to see some c430,and some high nose C420.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 8:43 PM
Just one plastic alligator would be nice!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 8:43 PM
Just one plastic alligator would be nice!
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Posted by JimYoung on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 12:56 PM
Bring back the Atlas RSD-12!!! And break some "new ground" while you're at it--- like the T-6.

ALCo rules.
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Posted by JimYoung on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 12:56 PM
Bring back the Atlas RSD-12!!! And break some "new ground" while you're at it--- like the T-6.

ALCo rules.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 9:01 PM
A great engine would be the FPA-2.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 9:01 PM
A great engine would be the FPA-2.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 3:25 AM
Oh ALCO how I love thee........C430, C636, M424, M430, RS27 need I go on??? Come on manufacturers please!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 3:25 AM
Oh ALCO how I love thee........C430, C636, M424, M430, RS27 need I go on??? Come on manufacturers please!!!
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Posted by JimYoung on Thursday, August 7, 2003 11:22 AM
Check out this website:

http://www.lynnet.com/~tigervalley/

TVM was recommended to me by the owner of Rock River Model Hobbies, Interlaken, NY. I've never seen TVM advertised but the photos on their website and the ALCo kits they advertise make it worth checking out.[;)][8)]
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Posted by JimYoung on Thursday, August 7, 2003 11:22 AM
Check out this website:

http://www.lynnet.com/~tigervalley/

TVM was recommended to me by the owner of Rock River Model Hobbies, Interlaken, NY. I've never seen TVM advertised but the photos on their website and the ALCo kits they advertise make it worth checking out.[;)][8)]
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Posted by BentnoseWillie on Thursday, August 7, 2003 11:38 AM
QUOTE: M424, M430
What on earth are M424's and M430's?

Perhaps you mean M420's and M630's?

Me, I'd just like a Dofasco truck retrofit for the Stewart C630 so I can build all kinds of neat stuff...
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Posted by BentnoseWillie on Thursday, August 7, 2003 11:38 AM
QUOTE: M424, M430
What on earth are M424's and M430's?

Perhaps you mean M420's and M630's?

Me, I'd just like a Dofasco truck retrofit for the Stewart C630 so I can build all kinds of neat stuff...
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 9:48 PM
The M424 was the MLW version of the C424 for roads in the U.S. The biggest difference between the American and Canadian versions of the 424 was nose design. Thanks for the correction on the M430 since there never was one produced, I meant the six-axle M630. One ALCO I didn't mention is the C420. It's widely used on many shortlines today and was produced in large numbers (for ALCO standards). If I am not mistaken only Rivarossi is producing the C420 in HO scale and this is only in a handful of old paint schemes and they don't offer an undercorated model. Pentrex, the railroad video producers, offer a 3-part series of VHS tapes on ALCOs. These tapes were filmed from the mid to late 1990s. I think it's an excellent production.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 7, 2003 9:48 PM
The M424 was the MLW version of the C424 for roads in the U.S. The biggest difference between the American and Canadian versions of the 424 was nose design. Thanks for the correction on the M430 since there never was one produced, I meant the six-axle M630. One ALCO I didn't mention is the C420. It's widely used on many shortlines today and was produced in large numbers (for ALCO standards). If I am not mistaken only Rivarossi is producing the C420 in HO scale and this is only in a handful of old paint schemes and they don't offer an undercorated model. Pentrex, the railroad video producers, offer a 3-part series of VHS tapes on ALCOs. These tapes were filmed from the mid to late 1990s. I think it's an excellent production.
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Posted by BentnoseWillie on Friday, August 8, 2003 5:56 AM
M424? Hm. Never heard of it. You learn something every day. Up here we just had C424's, some of which (ex-CP) are still running around on shortlines.

There was also the C630M, which was a C630 with different trucks and other relatively minor differences. After the fall of Alco came the M-Line: the M420, M630, M636, and M640. BCR had M420's, M630's and M636's, CN had M420's, C630M's and M636's. CP had C630M's, M630's, M636's, and the lone M640 (4744) which was rebuilt in the early 80's by GE with A1A trucks and AC traction. It's now in the Canadian Railway Museum. Under Bombardier the M420 begat the HR412, and the M636 begat the full-cowl HR616, the latter possibly Montreal's lowest point.

And now you know more than you ever wanted to about MLW Alco derivatives! [:)]
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Posted by BentnoseWillie on Friday, August 8, 2003 5:56 AM
M424? Hm. Never heard of it. You learn something every day. Up here we just had C424's, some of which (ex-CP) are still running around on shortlines.

There was also the C630M, which was a C630 with different trucks and other relatively minor differences. After the fall of Alco came the M-Line: the M420, M630, M636, and M640. BCR had M420's, M630's and M636's, CN had M420's, C630M's and M636's. CP had C630M's, M630's, M636's, and the lone M640 (4744) which was rebuilt in the early 80's by GE with A1A trucks and AC traction. It's now in the Canadian Railway Museum. Under Bombardier the M420 begat the HR412, and the M636 begat the full-cowl HR616, the latter possibly Montreal's lowest point.

And now you know more than you ever wanted to about MLW Alco derivatives! [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 11:32 AM
You can never know enough about ALCOs!!! It also helps you with your alphabet and numbers (good for young children)! One side note to the M424 I think most if not all of them were delivered to Mexican railroads. So it's a rare breed around the U.S. You can always do a search over the internet if you're interested in what they look like. I found some good results.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 11:32 AM
You can never know enough about ALCOs!!! It also helps you with your alphabet and numbers (good for young children)! One side note to the M424 I think most if not all of them were delivered to Mexican railroads. So it's a rare breed around the U.S. You can always do a search over the internet if you're interested in what they look like. I found some good results.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 4:01 PM
I think someone needs to offer a C-630 with ALCo.s Hi-AD trucks, that locomotive was a beast! However, they need to offer it at an AFFORDABLE price, no $100.00 locos, maybe in the $40-$60 range, that would be nice for low-budget modelers like me! C430s and M420s would be nice too [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 4:01 PM
I think someone needs to offer a C-630 with ALCo.s Hi-AD trucks, that locomotive was a beast! However, they need to offer it at an AFFORDABLE price, no $100.00 locos, maybe in the $40-$60 range, that would be nice for low-budget modelers like me! C430s and M420s would be nice too [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 4:07 PM
oops! almost forgot, if you need production statistics for ALCo. just go to http://trainweb.org/stlrailfanning/alcoprostat.htm some models are missing, like the later RSD models, but most are there, if anyone could help me fill in the gaps that would be great!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 4:07 PM
oops! almost forgot, if you need production statistics for ALCo. just go to http://trainweb.org/stlrailfanning/alcoprostat.htm some models are missing, like the later RSD models, but most are there, if anyone could help me fill in the gaps that would be great!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 5:34 PM
Thanks for the info Brian, the VHS collection titled "Those Increadible ALCOs" by Pentrex as I had previously mentioned in a prior post goes chronologically though all ALCO models ever produced by giving detailed information about each models vital statistics such as period produced, engine type, horsepower, etc. and then shows video of currently working examples (as of mid-late 90s) whenever possible. I don't think they left out one single ALCO model in this set. Additionally, Withers Publishing is soon going to be releasing the first in a new volume of books detailing the ALCO Century line. The first release will include the 4-axle units. I am sure this series will provide excellent content for us "Alcophiles". I agree with you on the desire to have new never-before-released model of ALCOs that are ready-to-run, offer well detailed bodies yet are still affordable. I had in mind products similiar to Athearn's RTR or Atlas' Classic line. These models feature a nice mix of pricing, quality and detail.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 8, 2003 5:34 PM
Thanks for the info Brian, the VHS collection titled "Those Increadible ALCOs" by Pentrex as I had previously mentioned in a prior post goes chronologically though all ALCO models ever produced by giving detailed information about each models vital statistics such as period produced, engine type, horsepower, etc. and then shows video of currently working examples (as of mid-late 90s) whenever possible. I don't think they left out one single ALCO model in this set. Additionally, Withers Publishing is soon going to be releasing the first in a new volume of books detailing the ALCO Century line. The first release will include the 4-axle units. I am sure this series will provide excellent content for us "Alcophiles". I agree with you on the desire to have new never-before-released model of ALCOs that are ready-to-run, offer well detailed bodies yet are still affordable. I had in mind products similiar to Athearn's RTR or Atlas' Classic line. These models feature a nice mix of pricing, quality and detail.
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Posted by jwixom on Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:11 AM
we need more alco engines in n-scale
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Posted by jwixom on Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:11 AM
we need more alco engines in n-scale
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:54 AM
Atlas just announced they will be introducing a new N-scale C-628 model estimated for December 2003 delivery.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:54 AM
Atlas just announced they will be introducing a new N-scale C-628 model estimated for December 2003 delivery.

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