Bergie didn't do homework - Canadian Articulates

[jrbarney]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard
Bob:
You may already have this-http://www.railways.incanada.net/industrials/Nova_Scotia.pdf
It shows Glasgow and Cape Breton Coal having three Fairlie 36" gauge two boiler 0-4-4-0's built by Avonside:
s/n's 907-908 1871
s/n's 909-910 1872
s/n's 911-912 1871
All three scrapped in 1903.
[:)]

Isambard,
Many thanks, I did not have that URL, although I had also searched my Canadian archival URLs. Having learned that they were Fairlies, I've now more or less lost interest, as I was hoping they were mini-Mallets rather than double enders.
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

[jrbarney]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard
Bob:
You may already have this-http://www.railways.incanada.net/industrials/Nova_Scotia.pdf
It shows Glasgow and Cape Breton Coal having three Fairlie 36" gauge two boiler 0-4-4-0's built by Avonside:
s/n's 907-908 1871
s/n's 909-910 1872
s/n's 911-912 1871
All three scrapped in 1903.
[:)]

Isambard,
Many thanks, I did not have that URL, although I had also searched my Canadian archival URLs. Having learned that they were Fairlies, I've now more or less lost interest, as I was hoping they were mini-Mallets rather than double enders.
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

[Anonymous]

Isambard:
Due to my lifelong affinity for the Great Western, I admire your choice of nickname on this forum.[:)]
regards;
Mike

[Anonymous]

Isambard:
Due to my lifelong affinity for the Great Western, I admire your choice of nickname on this forum.[:)]
regards;
Mike

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by robmik

QUOTE: Originally posted by bostonsrock

Meanwhile, up here in Canada eh! with a great white Queenie mother with frizzy steel wool for hair STILL on our money in the 21st century alredy, and we want to have Canadian protypical model trains? We had our chance to be a part of the New World in 1776 and said NO when we might have had a real say. With a population of about 30 million today in Canada, maybe, lets be happy for the abundance of models we are offered.

Well...if the Queen's picture offends you, and you don't qualify for a debit or credit card.....you might want try using paper money, as the Queen's picture was discontinued on that particular type of Canadian currency quite a while back.

Or just use Canadian Tire money, which features a male Scot....but he's also white, I'm afraid.[:0]

I see your protest against all things English includes the language itself, with "alredy" and "protypical" as new Republic of Canada thesaurus entries.[:p]

Your knowledge of history is a bit suspect. The only additional colony in British North America that might have become "the fourteenth" US colony, was Nova Scotia, mainly due to its' own New England population demographics, and to the terrible British abuses inflicted upon the French Acadians.
The rest of what became Canada, 91 years after 1776, was embroiled in a French vs. English struggle throughout most of the 17th and 18th centuries....come to think of it, thoughout every century since then, too.[:I][:I][B)][B)]
Mike
English by birth,
Canadian by choice.[:D][:D]

Gee whiz Mike, if we were to take all offending contributors (of which there are many many) to task for their spelling, grammar and syntax errors, in addition for their questionable understanding of their nation's history and/or geography, or that of other nations, we would spend too much of our time and space on forums such as this trying to show them the error of their ways. After all they are just trying to be "articulate" about articulateds and such, I assume.
[:D]

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by robmik

QUOTE: Originally posted by bostonsrock

Meanwhile, up here in Canada eh! with a great white Queenie mother with frizzy steel wool for hair STILL on our money in the 21st century alredy, and we want to have Canadian protypical model trains? We had our chance to be a part of the New World in 1776 and said NO when we might have had a real say. With a population of about 30 million today in Canada, maybe, lets be happy for the abundance of models we are offered.

Well...if the Queen's picture offends you, and you don't qualify for a debit or credit card.....you might want try using paper money, as the Queen's picture was discontinued on that particular type of Canadian currency quite a while back.

Or just use Canadian Tire money, which features a male Scot....but he's also white, I'm afraid.[:0]

I see your protest against all things English includes the language itself, with "alredy" and "protypical" as new Republic of Canada thesaurus entries.[:p]

Your knowledge of history is a bit suspect. The only additional colony in British North America that might have become "the fourteenth" US colony, was Nova Scotia, mainly due to its' own New England population demographics, and to the terrible British abuses inflicted upon the French Acadians.
The rest of what became Canada, 91 years after 1776, was embroiled in a French vs. English struggle throughout most of the 17th and 18th centuries....come to think of it, thoughout every century since then, too.[:I][:I][B)][B)]
Mike
English by birth,
Canadian by choice.[:D][:D]

Gee whiz Mike, if we were to take all offending contributors (of which there are many many) to task for their spelling, grammar and syntax errors, in addition for their questionable understanding of their nation's history and/or geography, or that of other nations, we would spend too much of our time and space on forums such as this trying to show them the error of their ways. After all they are just trying to be "articulate" about articulateds and such, I assume.
[:D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bostonsrock

Meanwhile, up here in Canada eh! with a great white Queenie mother with frizzy steel wool for hair STILL on our money in the 21st century alredy, and we want to have Canadian protypical model trains? We had our chance to be a part of the New World in 1776 and said NO when we might have had a real say. With a population of about 30 million today in Canada, maybe, lets be happy for the abundance of models we are offered.

Well...if the Queen's picture offends you, and you don't qualify for a debit or credit card.....you might want try using paper money, as the Queen's picture was discontinued on that particular type of Canadian currency quite a while back.

Or just use Canadian Tire money, which features a male Scot....but he's also white, I'm afraid.[:0]

I see your protest against all things English includes the language itself, with "alredy" and "protypical" as new Republic of Canada thesaurus entries.[:p]

Your knowledge of history is a bit suspect. The only additional colony in British North America that might have become "the fourteenth" US colony, was Nova Scotia, mainly due to its' own New England population demographics, and to the terrible British abuses inflicted upon the French Acadians.
The rest of what became Canada, 91 years after 1776, was embroiled in a French vs. English struggle throughout most of the 17th and 18th centuries....come to think of it, thoughout every century since then, too.[:I][:I][B)][B)]
Mike
English by birth,
Canadian by choice.[:D][:D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bostonsrock

Meanwhile, up here in Canada eh! with a great white Queenie mother with frizzy steel wool for hair STILL on our money in the 21st century alredy, and we want to have Canadian protypical model trains? We had our chance to be a part of the New World in 1776 and said NO when we might have had a real say. With a population of about 30 million today in Canada, maybe, lets be happy for the abundance of models we are offered.

Well...if the Queen's picture offends you, and you don't qualify for a debit or credit card.....you might want try using paper money, as the Queen's picture was discontinued on that particular type of Canadian currency quite a while back.

Or just use Canadian Tire money, which features a male Scot....but he's also white, I'm afraid.[:0]

I see your protest against all things English includes the language itself, with "alredy" and "protypical" as new Republic of Canada thesaurus entries.[:p]

Your knowledge of history is a bit suspect. The only additional colony in British North America that might have become "the fourteenth" US colony, was Nova Scotia, mainly due to its' own New England population demographics, and to the terrible British abuses inflicted upon the French Acadians.
The rest of what became Canada, 91 years after 1776, was embroiled in a French vs. English struggle throughout most of the 17th and 18th centuries....come to think of it, thoughout every century since then, too.[:I][:I][B)][B)]
Mike
English by birth,
Canadian by choice.[:D][:D]

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jrbarney

QUOTE: Originally posted by alpreston

. . . . The 3' gauge Glasgow and Cape Breton got an 0-4-4-0 in 1872, and the Toronto & Nippissing and Toronto, Grey & Bruce both got 0-6-6-0's within a year or so. . . .

I've done a "Google" search, and a search in the Index of Magazines but was unable to find a photo or plans for the cited 0-4-4-0. Can anyone provide more information on it ?
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

Bob:
You may already have this-http://www.railways.incanada.net/industrials/Nova_Scotia.pdf
It shows Glasgow and Cape Breton Coal having three Fairlie 36" gauge two boiler 0-4-4-0's built by Avonside:
s/n's 907-908 1871
s/n's 909-910 1872
s/n's 911-912 1871
All three scrapped in 1903.
[:)]

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jrbarney

QUOTE: Originally posted by alpreston

. . . . The 3' gauge Glasgow and Cape Breton got an 0-4-4-0 in 1872, and the Toronto & Nippissing and Toronto, Grey & Bruce both got 0-6-6-0's within a year or so. . . .

I've done a "Google" search, and a search in the Index of Magazines but was unable to find a photo or plans for the cited 0-4-4-0. Can anyone provide more information on it ?
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

Bob:
You may already have this-http://www.railways.incanada.net/industrials/Nova_Scotia.pdf
It shows Glasgow and Cape Breton Coal having three Fairlie 36" gauge two boiler 0-4-4-0's built by Avonside:
s/n's 907-908 1871
s/n's 909-910 1872
s/n's 911-912 1871
All three scrapped in 1903.
[:)]

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile, up here in Canada eh! with a great white Queenie mother with frizzy steel wool for hair STILL on our money in the 21st century alredy, and we want to have Canadian protypical model trains? We had our chance to be a part of the New World in 1776 and said NO when we might have had a real say. With a population of about 30 million today in Canada, maybe, lets be happy for the abundance of models we are offered.

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile, up here in Canada eh! with a great white Queenie mother with frizzy steel wool for hair STILL on our money in the 21st century alredy, and we want to have Canadian protypical model trains? We had our chance to be a part of the New World in 1776 and said NO when we might have had a real say. With a population of about 30 million today in Canada, maybe, lets be happy for the abundance of models we are offered.

[jrbarney]

QUOTE: Originally posted by alpreston

. . . . The 3' gauge Glasgow and Cape Breton got an 0-4-4-0 in 1872, and the Toronto & Nippissing and Toronto, Grey & Bruce both got 0-6-6-0's within a year or so. . . .

I've done a "Google" search, and a search in the Index of Magazines but was unable to find a photo or plans for the cited 0-4-4-0. Can anyone provide more information on it ?
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

[jrbarney]

QUOTE: Originally posted by alpreston

. . . . The 3' gauge Glasgow and Cape Breton got an 0-4-4-0 in 1872, and the Toronto & Nippissing and Toronto, Grey & Bruce both got 0-6-6-0's within a year or so. . . .

I've done a "Google" search, and a search in the Index of Magazines but was unable to find a photo or plans for the cited 0-4-4-0. Can anyone provide more information on it ?
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Timbo2

Do we want to include CPR's three Shays in the list of Canadian Articulateds as well?

Yet more homework required :^)

Tim Tumber
Wiltshire England
(About 53 degrees north if anyone wants to greet an Northerner !?!)

We'd have much more homework to do if we include Shays in Canada, of which there were many, as we'd also have to include Heislers and Climaxs (but not Beyer-Garratts-says he expecting a challenge). Omer Lavallée categorized the Shays as 0-4-4-4's.

Ah well, enough lessons on the Great White North, for now.
[:)]

[Isambard]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Timbo2

Do we want to include CPR's three Shays in the list of Canadian Articulateds as well?

Yet more homework required :^)

Tim Tumber
Wiltshire England
(About 53 degrees north if anyone wants to greet an Northerner !?!)

We'd have much more homework to do if we include Shays in Canada, of which there were many, as we'd also have to include Heislers and Climaxs (but not Beyer-Garratts-says he expecting a challenge). Omer Lavallée categorized the Shays as 0-4-4-4's.

Ah well, enough lessons on the Great White North, for now.
[:)]

[Isambard]

To "articulate" a bit more about those CPR 0-6-6-0 articulateds; referring to Omer Lavallée's Canadian Pacific Steam Locomotives ( a virtual encyclopedia of pictures, information and data on CPR steamers from beginning to end of steam), six 0-6-6-0's were built by CPR's Angus Shops in Montreal between 1909 and 1911, specifically for helper service in the Canadian Rockies between Field BC and Revelstoke BC. The first five were superheated compounds, the sixth was superheated simple (the first simple articulated to go in service in the world (Alco's was still in a test phase). Their configuration was unique in that the two sets of cylinders were located back to back between the two sets of drivers. The units were rebuilt into CPR Class R2 5700 series 2-10-0's in 1917, experience showing high cost of repairs without real advantage from articulation due to the comparatively small size of these locomotives.

[Isambard]

To "articulate" a bit more about those CPR 0-6-6-0 articulateds; referring to Omer Lavallée's Canadian Pacific Steam Locomotives ( a virtual encyclopedia of pictures, information and data on CPR steamers from beginning to end of steam), six 0-6-6-0's were built by CPR's Angus Shops in Montreal between 1909 and 1911, specifically for helper service in the Canadian Rockies between Field BC and Revelstoke BC. The first five were superheated compounds, the sixth was superheated simple (the first simple articulated to go in service in the world (Alco's was still in a test phase). Their configuration was unique in that the two sets of cylinders were located back to back between the two sets of drivers. The units were rebuilt into CPR Class R2 5700 series 2-10-0's in 1917, experience showing high cost of repairs without real advantage from articulation due to the comparatively small size of these locomotives.

[Anonymous]

Timbo and others,
Go to this thread on the Atlas N scale forum. I think you will enjoy and some interesting pictures - more on the great Canadian debate on articulated's:

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26342

[Anonymous]

Timbo and others,
Go to this thread on the Atlas N scale forum. I think you will enjoy and some interesting pictures - more on the great Canadian debate on articulated's:

http://forum.atlasrr.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26342

[Anonymous]

Do we want to include CPR's three Shays in the list of Canadian Articulateds as well?

Yet more homework required :^)

Tim Tumber
Wiltshire England
(About 53 degrees north if anyone wants to greet an Northerner !?!)

[Anonymous]

Do we want to include CPR's three Shays in the list of Canadian Articulateds as well?

Yet more homework required :^)

Tim Tumber
Wiltshire England
(About 53 degrees north if anyone wants to greet an Northerner !?!)

[Anonymous]

The answer to Robert M La Follette used to be he was the leader of the largest independent party from the Democrats and Republicans. I don't know if that is still true with Ross Peroe. But that was the answer in Trivia Pursuit and what I was taught at La Follette high.

Bergie I lived in Madison and Chicago so I know what you mean.

Trying to get information on Canadian Articulates all in one place is difficult, so I am not surprised there are more than I thought.

[Anonymous]

The answer to Robert M La Follette used to be he was the leader of the largest independent party from the Democrats and Republicans. I don't know if that is still true with Ross Peroe. But that was the answer in Trivia Pursuit and what I was taught at La Follette high.

Bergie I lived in Madison and Chicago so I know what you mean.

Trying to get information on Canadian Articulates all in one place is difficult, so I am not surprised there are more than I thought.

[BentnoseWillie]

Hey, I once got called a "Northerner" online - by someone in Seattle.

I live at around 45 deg. north latitude...Seattle is at 48...

[BentnoseWillie]

Hey, I once got called a "Northerner" online - by someone in Seattle.

I live at around 45 deg. north latitude...Seattle is at 48...

[DavidH]

Apropos of nothing in particular, in 1966, I visited Seattle for the first time. I was asked where I was from and I told the individual Winnipeg, Canada. They stared at me blankly. I then told them it was about 450 miles north of Minneapolis. They continued to stare at me blankly. I added Minnesota. Still no lights went on.

David

[DavidH]

Apropos of nothing in particular, in 1966, I visited Seattle for the first time. I was asked where I was from and I told the individual Winnipeg, Canada. They stared at me blankly. I then told them it was about 450 miles north of Minneapolis. They continued to stare at me blankly. I added Minnesota. Still no lights went on.

David

[Anonymous]

Spoiler Warning! [:)]

(sorry for the copy and paste -- I knew he was a Progressive and had a major impact on government, but I couldn't remember the details)

Robert M. La Follette -- The Wisconsin Idea

Robert M. “Fighting Bob” La Follette’s long public career in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century—as a U.S. Representative, three-term governor, and U.S. Senator—set precedents for generations of state and federal programs.

La Follette worked on two fronts. He sought institutional changes to place government more directly in the hands of citizens, and he pursued public policies to improve the lot of farmers, workers, children, and women.

La Follette and His Legacy

Revered by Wisconsinites and friends across the nation for being "the voice of humanism. in politics," he was eulogized for his philosophies, achievements, and most of all, his impeccable integrity. The Wisconsin legislature commissioned his sculpture to grace Statuary Hall in the nation's capitol. Two generations later "the dear old rotten Senate," as La Follette had called it, hung his portrait in the Senate lounge to honor him as one of the five most outstanding senators in the nation's history.