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Posted by ereimer on Monday, November 14, 2005 9:21 AM
i just ordered one !
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, November 14, 2005 8:52 AM
10-4 on that Bangertt,

Still, IMHO, the QSI sound units are "Top Notch" as far as Dynamic sound goes.

A possilbe six months for the Tsunami diesel decoder? Well, that's not too bad as that would put us in the Spring of 2006.

The only aspect thing that dissappoints me is the information that no hew horns are being added in, only the same horns as before but professinally remixed.
( a number of modelers have shown interest in the Hancock whistle. Also the Nathan P5 and K5H are popular units as well). Of course, this costs money so Soundtraxx apprently is taking the "Work with what you got" approach.

I'm looking forward to hearing an EMD 645 with the K5LA horn from a Tsunami.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 14, 2005 8:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut1250


OK guys who is going to be first here to buy one??? After all the back and forth about when they are going to be out, I would think Tony's phone will be ringing of the hook come Monday. I'm calling tomorrow....Antonio?????


Hello Trainnut,

I'm shocked and pleasantly surprised............however just one little hitch.......I was waiting for the Diesel version. [(-D][(-D]

I'm glad Soundtraxx is finally moving forward,. I communicated with Bruce from Litchfield back in the summer. He stated that modelers will not be dissappointed with the steam decoder version of the Tsunami..

Obvious question: So when is the diesel version going to be introduced? I'm assuming that it will have to go throught the BETA testing procedures once test samples become available. OR Has Soundtraxx already produced some Diesel Tsunami's and are awaiting testing?


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Ithink we all were surprised since some of our reservations go back one to two years and some rumors were beginning to indicate it might not happen. In the past month, I had ordered and received several of the older Soundtraxx modules without the drive portion just to use if the New one was cancelled.

The Beta for the steam was several months ago the news was leaked out to us by some of the testers to keep us interested. I believe we will find out the Beta testing for the Diesel sound the same way, Hopefully.
The Soundtraxx F unit 567 engine sound for the Diesels is really excellent and two of the modules installed in a four unit set of Genesis F units is absolutely the best out there on the market today. The funny thing about this industry and most all technical advances is the new ones probably will obsolete everything we are using today.

If we use the latest Soundtraxx offerings and the units work like they are advertised, we might see the diesel sound modules in less than six months.

In my opinion, Soundtraxx has been the leader in the market for both fidelity and sound quality up to now and they would like to retain that advantage.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, November 14, 2005 6:32 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut1250


OK guys who is going to be first here to buy one??? After all the back and forth about when they are going to be out, I would think Tony's phone will be ringing of the hook come Monday. I'm calling tomorrow....Antonio?????


Hello Trainnut,

I'm shocked and pleasantly surprised............however just one little hitch.......I was waiting for the Diesel version. [(-D][(-D]

I'm glad Soundtraxx is finally moving forward,. I communicated with Bruce from Litchfield back in the summer. He stated that modelers will not be dissappointed with the steam decoder version of the Tsunami..

Obvious question: So when is the diesel version going to be introduced? I'm assuming that it will have to go throught the BETA testing procedures once test samples become available. OR Has Soundtraxx already produced some Diesel Tsunami's and are awaiting testing?

The m-y-s-t-e-r-i-o-u-s answer in this soap opera lies somewhere ahead in time!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 14, 2005 1:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Trainnut1250

QUOTE: Originally posted by grayfox1119

Go to www.Tonystrains.com all the info is there on the Tsunami's.....

Tsunamis are now shipping....for steam only at this time!!




OK guys who is going to be first here to buy one??? After all the back and forth about when they are going to be out, I would think Tony's phone will be ringing of the hook come Monday. I'm calling tomorrow....Antonio?????



I had my reservations already in and recomfirmed my order as soon as the email came from Tony's. The price is great as I really expected to pay as much as $150 for each unit so I can now double the order without pain.

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Posted by krump on Monday, November 14, 2005 12:59 AM
since I've been without email since late Dec 2004, all I can think is ... sounds like a great product, but what an unfortunate name.

however, I'd be interested in Feedback in a few months, when you've used it for awhile

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:19 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by grayfox1119

Go to www.Tonystrains.com all the info is there on the Tsunami's.....

Tsunamis are now shipping....for steam only at this time!!




OK guys who is going to be first here to buy one??? After all the back and forth about when they are going to be out, I would think Tony's phone will be ringing of the hook come Monday. I'm calling tomorrow....Antonio?????
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Posted by grayfox1119 on Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:59 PM
Go to www.Tonystrains.com all the info is there on the Tsunami's.....

Tsunamis are now shipping....for steam only at this time!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:46 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ereimer

QUOTE: Originally posted by davekelly

What would be really attractive to both retailers and consumers, I think, is the ability to buy just one decoder and then download the sounds you need. Retailers will have to stock less, and the consumer will be able to, I hope, reprogram the sound decoder if they switch it to another locomotive. The possibilities are fascinating!


this already exists , it's called loksound
http://www.loksound.de/en/index.php?showId=2
also the new digitrax decoders are supposed to have downloadable sound , however the ones they've announced are for specific manufacturers engines (kato diesels i think) and we don't know when generic decoders will be available

they sell loksound at my LHS and the sales people are pretty excited about it . unfortunatly they didn't have a demo . the one disadvantage i see is the decoders are fairly expensive ($200+ canadian) and you have to buy a programming box if you want to change the sound in your decoder and it's the same price as a decoder (of course you only need one programmer) . with the new digitrax decoders priced at $60 US (less than $85 canadian) i decided to wait and see



The Tsunami is shipping this week.

http://www.soundtraxx.com/news.htm


First Tsunami's Ready to Ship!

11/12/05

SoundTraxx has announced that the first Tsunami Digital Sound Decoders are now shipping!

Tsunami Digital Sound Decoders are SoundTraxx’s new high-performance, onboard locomotive sound system. Tsunami integrates a full-featured sound system, four Hyperlight lighting effects, a motor controller and a DCC decoder into a single, integrated package and is compatible with the NMRA DCC standards and Recommended Practices. Tsunami Digital Sound Decoders can also be used on ‘Analog’ layouts and controlled with a conventional power pack.

At Tsunami’s core is a true 16-bit Digital Signal Processor, or DSP, capable of executing over 120 million instructions per second. With this new level of performance, SoundTraxx was able to give Tsunami 14 functions, over 22 individual sounds, and 4 special effects including the ability to alter the exhaust sound automatically in response to changes in the engine load. In addition, the use of high frequency PWM and load compensation make for exceptional motor control.

The TSU-1000 integrates a digital sound system, lighting effects and a DCC decoder into a single, miniature electronic module rated at 1 Amp. It is currently available in six steam versions, each with unique whistles, bells, airpumps, exhaust and more. Tsunami is priced affordably at $99.95. For additional information and complete ordering information, please visit the Tsunami product section on our website.





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Posted by rrinker on Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:38 AM
Although after reading the information on Tony's about these 'new and improved' MRC sound decoders as used in the new Genesis F's.. I think I'll continue to pass. They may have improved the sound quality, but - no readback when programming? What were they thinking?

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Posted by robengland on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 6:29 PM
It's more complex than Soundtraxx vs Digitrax. Loksound units are excellent and QSI is now also entering the market, while MRC are trying to come upmarket from the dreadful stuff they started out with. Look for some REAL competitive pressures = some sane prices at last


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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 6:53 AM
Bangert,

Thanks for that info. I did see the Digitrax video before and was impressed.

I may be pre-mature but this "sort of" reminds me of EMD and GE when comparing Soundtraxx to Digitrax.

EMD was king for many years. GE built a few switchers but primarily supplied Alco with components for their locomotives. Then GE gets into the business and is hailed as a joke with their early U-Boats. Now GE is #1.

Looks like Digitrax is the up and coming underdog in sound but might not be the underdog for very long. As mentioned on page 3, Soundtraxx has been "Sidetracked" and both the Tsunami and Surroundtraxx System seem to be looming in the distance.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 11:25 PM
Spacemouse is right whats the big deal? So what it can run on DCC and DC without doing anything! I have the BLI AC6000CW and I went from DCC to DC in literally 1 minute. The rear radiator removes and the decoder is there. I caped it with the DC plug and put it on the track. Besides I only run my engines on DCC so I really do not care about them going on DC too. Thats why I got the BLI with sound for when I want to take it to the club layout to run. I just bought a soundtraxx decoder for my Kato AC4400 that only cost me a mere $48 plus $5 for the speaker. No shipping cost. So I do not care when this new decoder comes out.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 11:24 PM
Spacemouse is right whats the big deal? So what it can run on DCC and DC without doing anything! I have the BLI AC6000CW and I went from DCC to DC in literally 1 minute. The rear radiator removes and the decoder is there. I caped it with the DC plug and put it on the track. Besides I only run my engines on DCC so I really do not care about them going on DC too. Thats why I got the BLI with sound for when I want to take it to the club layout to run. I just bought a soundtraxx decoder for my Kato AC4400 that only cost me a mere $48 plus $5 for the speaker. No shipping cost. So I do not care when this new decoder comes out.
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Posted by davekelly on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 7:28 PM
Hopefully the wait won't be long and when the wait is over we'll have a bunch of great systems to choose from at several different price points. Life could be good!
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Posted by ereimer on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 5:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by davekelly

What would be really attractive to both retailers and consumers, I think, is the ability to buy just one decoder and then download the sounds you need. Retailers will have to stock less, and the consumer will be able to, I hope, reprogram the sound decoder if they switch it to another locomotive. The possibilities are fascinating!


this already exists , it's called loksound
http://www.loksound.de/en/index.php?showId=2
also the new digitrax decoders are supposed to have downloadable sound , however the ones they've announced are for specific manufacturers engines (kato diesels i think) and we don't know when generic decoders will be available

they sell loksound at my LHS and the sales people are pretty excited about it . unfortunatly they didn't have a demo . the one disadvantage i see is the decoders are fairly expensive ($200+ canadian) and you have to buy a programming box if you want to change the sound in your decoder and it's the same price as a decoder (of course you only need one programmer) . with the new digitrax decoders priced at $60 US (less than $85 canadian) i decided to wait and see
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 5:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by WilmJunc

Wow:

It's been almost seven months since I posted the original question. What a gigantic blunder by Soundtrax. I hope they get their act together and can get the unit out. Ideally we would have three or four manufacturers making decent sound decoders. Competion is good when it comes to product advancement and consumer prices.


I have to conclude you are correct in saying, What a gigantic blunder by Soundtrax. They had the inside track and now are on the ' Sidetrack "

I am not confident that it is coming soon because the Beta testing was reported on Tony's Trains web site and probably other places, but it was beta field testing and not complete as advertised. That is the reason I purchased some more of the older units while they are on sale that have the correct sound for the UP Challengers.

Anyone have any speculation or comments on the Intermountain AC12 that was on display at the LA show recently???? I wrote Intermountain about the schedule and they would only say it would be announced next year.

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Posted by WilmJunc on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 4:28 PM
Wow:

It's been almost seven months since I posted the original question. What a gigantic blunder by Soundtrax. I hope they get their act together and can get the unit out. Ideally we would have three or four manufacturers making decent sound decoders. Competion is good when it comes to product advancement and consumer prices.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 3:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45

QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1

That might be part of the delay, but if they lost their lead engineer on the Tsunami project about six months ago to Digitrak, that would slow you down also. Word is, they did lose their lead engineer and he has moved to Digitrax. I certainly hope they can raise a sufficient amount of money in their latest decoder sale to fund the completion of the Tsunanmi. The beta test results were excellent, but the unit was not finished and was not ready for production.

i have been waiting on this product for almost three years and cancelled my orginal orders about a year ago after many production dates were missed, but then I reordered some more recently hoping that if they had orders, they might fini***he project.


Just guessing, but it looks like Digitrax may eventually be in the position of soaring like an eagle with sound with that kind of talent on their team.

If Soundtraxx can't produce a viable diesel Tsunami decoder, than hopefully they'll turn to upgrading their current offerings.




Antonio

Digitrax might be in the drivers seat if they offer new products that are comparible to the Soundtraxx modules. You can go on line at Digitrax and watch a video of the SoundFX Decoder Introduction at a recent show. Look under This Month's Product Spotlight and click on Watch a Video. The Video is 22mbytes, but I downloaded it since I only have dialup and it is not highspeed in any fashion.

http://www.digitrax.com/

The following is description for the new Digitrax. I have not heard the sound but would like to have feedback if anyone knows how they sound.

Easy-To-Install
Includes 28 mm Plug-In Speaker
Rated at One Amp-For use in all scales
Available for Steam, Diesel or Electric Locomotives
Downloadable Sound
Over twelve unique controllable Sounds
Supports Playable Whistle
Programmable on any DCC Programming
Track-No Special Equipment Needed


I did take advantage of the Soundtraxx half price sale recently and ordered a few of the older units for my Challengers and Big Boy's, but I would prefer the Tsumanami features at a higher price to get the right sounds.

The Soundtrax F unit sound is good, but might not the correct horn for all applications.



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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 2:39 PM
I think digitrax is likely to monopolize the DCC industry if they're not careful.

QUOTE: Originally posted by davekelly

According to the Digitrax website, their sound units will start shipping in the middle of December. The price point on them seems totally attractive, the MSRP for a sound decoder is somewhere in the $60.00 which I am assuming will lead to about a $50.00 price point. If the sound qualilty is comparable to the Soundtraxx LC units, then prices are very close. If the sound quality is comparable to the DCD units, then Digitraxx, in my mind, will have a big winner.

What would be really attractive to both retailers and consumers, I think, is the ability to buy just one decoder and then download the sounds you need. Retailers will have to stock less, and the consumer will be able to, I hope, reprogram the sound decoder if they switch it to another locomotive. The possibilities are fascinating!
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 2:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bangert1


That might be part of the delay, but if they lost their lead engineer on the Tsunami project about six months ago to Digitrak, that would slow you down also. Word is, they did lose their lead engineer and he has moved to Digitrax. I certainly hope they can raise a sufficient amount of money in their latest decoder sale to fund the completion of the Tsunanmi. The beta test results were excellent, but the unit was not finished and was not ready for production.

i have been waiting on this product for almost three years and cancelled my orginal orders about a year ago after many production dates were missed, but then I reordered some more recently hoping that if they had orders, they might fini***he project.


Wow! Bangertt that is news! Losing a key person like that in a small business can indeed have a sledge-hammer impact. That had to be a big OUCH![B)] for Soundtraxx.
I'm with you in hoping that they still come up with the Tsunami. It wouldn't benefit anyone if Soundtraxx were to eventually go under.

Just guessing, but it looks like Digitrax may eventually be in the position of soaring like an eagle with sound with that kind of talent on their team.

If Soundtraxx can't produce a viable diesel Tsunami decoder, than hopefully they'll turn to upgrading their current offerings.

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Posted by davekelly on Saturday, November 5, 2005 10:03 AM
According to the Digitrax website, their sound units will start shipping in the middle of December. The price point on them seems totally attractive, the MSRP for a sound decoder is somewhere in the $60.00 which I am assuming will lead to about a $50.00 price point. If the sound qualilty is comparable to the Soundtraxx LC units, then prices are very close. If the sound quality is comparable to the DCD units, then Digitraxx, in my mind, will have a big winner.

What would be really attractive to both retailers and consumers, I think, is the ability to buy just one decoder and then download the sounds you need. Retailers will have to stock less, and the consumer will be able to, I hope, reprogram the sound decoder if they switch it to another locomotive. The possibilities are fascinating!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 6:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by DigitalGriffin

"One delay factor with the Tsunami is the lawsuit by MTH."
I'll happily take a "disabled" back EMF decoder if that's what it takes until this whole mess is straightnend out.

It hasn't slowed down QSI sales, that's for sure.



That might be part of the delay, but if they lost their lead engineer on the Tsunami project about six months ago to Digitrak, that would slow you down also. Word is, they did lose their lead engineer and he has moved to Digitrax. I certainly hope they can raise a sufficient amount of money in their latest decoder sale to fund the completion of the Tsunanmi. The beta test results were excellent, but the unit was not finished and was not ready for production.

i have been waiting on this product for almost three years and cancelled my orginal orders about a year ago after many production dates were missed, but then I reordered some more recently hoping that if they had orders, they might fini***he project.
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Posted by davekelly on Friday, November 4, 2005 5:08 PM
I'm kinda thinking that Soundtraxx better move and move fast. Digitrax is coming along quickkly (I hope) Lok is out and BLI, Proto and others come with sound already installed. Without the DSD the only thing that folks have from Soundraxx is the LC's and they are being heavily discounted. Doesn't look good.
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Friday, November 4, 2005 3:23 PM
So far, my LHS will be getting Digitrax units in December (I think) and my friend reminded me that Lok Sound units are already available.

I am surprised that Soundtraxx has made no announcements on their website.

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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Friday, November 4, 2005 2:41 PM
I want it so bad, why won't it come, I really want sound in my SD40-2s as opposed to buying a new BLI which would put pressure on my enginehouses....
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 4, 2005 2:20 PM
I have given up on these units.

Digitrax is on track according to my LHS owner. Looks like they will be one unit with decoder, sound and Speaker all in one.

I forgot all about this thread. Amazing what comes back to life on these forums from time to time.
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Posted by davekelly on Friday, November 4, 2005 2:18 PM
I've about given up on hearing anymore. How about the Digitrax sound system? Any word on that?
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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Friday, November 4, 2005 2:12 PM
Hi, Crew!

Well,

We're in November. Anyone read or hear any word regarding the Tsunami yet?

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