Hello Wayne,
Wanted to let you know that I like the result of your idea of mixing green with black to get a "grimy" effect.
I had finished my jar of commercial grimy black so I tried mixing a commercial "pavement" color (similar to an asphalt shade of black) with straight black.....wasn't quite what I wanted so I tried your idea.....good! I suppose the ratio depends on the shade of green used. In my case my green is a commercial "new shamrock". Anyway, I started small, about 1 to 4 green to black, then proceeded to 2 to 1 green to black....a little too much. Backed off to 1 to 1 and that seems just right.
-Chuck/St. Charles, IL
As I brush paint, my takes on colors might be a bit different than most other people. Airbrushing in Montana without a hood is not possible for a good chunk of the year.
My take on Engine Black is Humbrol 33 even before Model Master went out. As for Grimy black I currently use TCP (Tru-color Paint) 804. I still haven't quite gotten the hang of using non-water clean up paints for weathering by drybrushing. I have gotten pretty good at it and the TCP doesn't quite drybrush the same way that the old Polly S/Polly Scale and Model Master did at least IMHO.
You can easily make a version of grimey black by adding green paint to black paint...I often use it for the wheel faces on cars with solid bearings.
For painting steam locomotives, I use four or five versions of "black", the blackest being for the cab and sides of the tender. The boiler gets a somewhat lightened black...some white or/and grey added, Smokeboxes and fireboxes, if not done in graphite, generally get a coat of brownish-grey. The running gear is usually a dulled and lightened black, but all of the various colours will get oversprays of clear finish: a fairly high gloss for cabs and sides of tenders, a lesser gloss on the boiler, and an even flatter clear coat on the deck of the tender. The firebox and smokebox usually get a coat of clear flat, while the running gear, cylinders and front end get a coat of clear semi-gloss.
When all the painting and lettering is done, the loco and tender will get some airbrushed weathering, usually nothing too extreme.
...this one's just out of the shop...
Wayne
Trainman440 the owner of minute man scale models responded, said engine black has a tad bit of white and oxide red pigment inside.
Scalecoat also has "Detail Black" which is a very dark gray and lets more detail show up under normal lighting.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
nvm the owner of minute man scale models responded, said engine black has a tad bit of white and oxide red pigment inside.
Charles
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According to sources, Vallejo Model Air 71.251 is a good match for engine black and Vallejo Model Air 71.055 is a good match for grimy black.
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Dark Gray auto primer in a rattle can, Krylon or Rustoleum is what I use to paint steam locomotives. Goes on dead flat, sticks to metal.
I never noticed much, if any, difference between Engine Black and just plain old Black.
David Starr www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com
Hey all, Im in the process of buying more paint.
With all my grimy black model master gone, I was wondering which brand of grimy black people now use? Or if you simply make your own batch? I know scalecoat has grimy black but havent heard any good (or bad) things about it.
Also, can anyone explain the difference between engine black and black?