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Posted by MetrolinkFan on Wednesday, June 23, 2021 9:09 AM

Hello all.What kind of gauge wire is on the Athearn Genesis Ho SD70ACe?

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Posted by PC101 on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:36 PM

Yes replacing that connector clip #45016 was one of the first things done to the BB locos before it was put in continuous run duty.

I would remove the assembly clip #84017 from the motor before soldering the wires to it so I would not heat up the brush spring.

Sorry guys, I transposed the numbers 84107 for 84017 in one of my above post. Dang eyes. I had cataract surgery in Dec. and Jan. and lazered the left on May 5th afterwards. It's still not correct in the left eye.Sigh May be corrected in 10 days now.Yeah

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:47 AM

PC101
How did you eliminate that strip #84107 of metal? It holds the spring and brush in the motor. 

I didn't replace the #84107, I replaced the connector strip, #45016, in the parts diagram of the SD40-2,  with 28ga wire, soldering the wire onto the #84107, one to the front truck, and one to the rear truck.  

Mike.

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Posted by PC101 on Monday, May 24, 2021 9:35 PM

MetrolinkFan

Hi mbinsewi,Do you have any extra of the 84017's you do not need.

 

Confused

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Posted by PC101 on Monday, May 24, 2021 9:32 PM

Yes.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, May 24, 2021 8:42 PM

mbinsewi
PC101
Get some copper strip stock and bend your own.

Aren't they phosphor bronze?
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Posted by maxman on Monday, May 24, 2021 8:27 PM

PC101
How did you eliminate that strip #84107 of metal? It holds the spring and brush in the motor. 

I don't think he is talking about the 84107 piece.

The piece he's talking about is not shown.  He's talking about the connector clip, 45016, shown on the SD40-2 part diagram he posted.

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Posted by PC101 on Monday, May 24, 2021 5:12 PM

mbinsewi
 
PC101
Get some copper strip stock and bend your own.

 

The connector strips have a spring-like property about them.  I don't think it's just copper strips.

Anyway, the reason I had so many was the fact that I, since way back when, I hard wired the connections, eliminating the strip.

Mike.

 

How did you eliminate that strip #84107 of metal? It holds the spring and brush in the motor. 

EDIT My mistake. The above #84107 should be #84017.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, May 23, 2021 6:28 PM

MetrolinkFan
I did not see your email address in your profile.

I was hiding it in plain sight  Whistling

 M_R-profile by Edmund, on Flickr

I did see your PM and sent you an email.

Regards, Ed

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, May 23, 2021 2:28 PM

MetrolinkFan

I sent you a message with my email I did not see your email address in your profile.



Quite correct...the e-mail address does not show.
 
My PM feature hasn't worked for several years - I can receive messages from others, but cannot reply to them.  If you've sent me a PM, and not received a response, I'm not being rude, but simply prevented from replying.
 
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Posted by MetrolinkFan on Sunday, May 23, 2021 1:29 PM

I sent you a message with my email I did not see your email address in your profile.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, May 23, 2021 12:37 PM

MetrolinkFan
How do I set up my Private Messaging?

A) click my profile name, then click "start message"

B) my email address is on my profile page

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by MetrolinkFan on Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:18 AM

How do I set up my Private Messaging? Yes I can use those connectors in the photos you posted.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, May 22, 2021 9:49 PM

MetrolinkFan
Hi mbinsewi,

I'm not Mike in se Wisconsin but Ed in NE Ohio. Do you see anything here you can use?

 Athearn_Jet-motor2 by Edmund, on Flickr

 Athearn_Jet-motor by Edmund, on Flickr

MetrolinkFan
I need 4 two for the top motor 2 for the bottom motor.

My Athearn engines only have a middle motor. The top clip and bottom clip are different on some since they have the contact "fingers" stamped in the bottom clip which engages the frame.

Does your PM work?

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by MetrolinkFan on Saturday, May 22, 2021 4:15 PM

Hi mbinsewi,Do you have any extra of the 84017's you do not need.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Friday, May 21, 2021 8:20 PM

kasskaboose
...Ok, who else is with me on replacing hand rails?...

S'matter with the handrails?  While the all-metal handrails aren't as well detailed as the more recent ones made from engineering plastic, they're a heckuva lot sturdier.

If you have the plastic ones and they're deformed, it's not all that difficult to remove them and use them as a pattern to bend new handrails using .015" piano wire.

You can then cut the plastic handrails from between the stanchions, then drill-out the stanchions so that you can thread them onto the new wire handrails.
 
After they're re-installed on the locomotive, use a small square to true-up the stanchions, then use the tip of a #11 X-Acto blade to apply a small amount of ca to both sides of the stanchion's base - it won't adhere to the engineering plastic, but it will fill the void around it, at least creating a tight fit.

Next, repeat that procedure on each stanchion where the handrail passes through...again, it won't adhere to the plastic stanchion, but, by touching the ca  to both sides, it will be drawn into the joint, and it will adhere to the steel wire.

This creates a handrail that's to-scale, and will stand-up to handling, as the piano wire simply springs back to where it belongs.

I used this method on this Atlas RS-3 (only the side handrails, though)...

...and also on this Atlas RS-1 (all handrails, as I was a little more confident)...

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, May 21, 2021 7:36 PM

PC101
Get some copper strip stock and bend your own.

The connector strips have a spring-like property about them.  I don't think it's just copper strips.

Anyway, the reason I had so many was the fact that I, since way back when, I hard wired the connections, eliminating the strip.

Mike.

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Posted by PC101 on Friday, May 21, 2021 7:01 PM

MetrolinkFan

I have also noticed when i place the athearn metal wheels into a six axle truck. the wheels are tight and the gears,They do not roll smooth.What can be causing this to happan?

 

To start with, if all the correct parts are there, The wheels with the gears will only turn freely by hand in the trucks when the top worm gear is NOT in place.

Second, maybe the wheels are out of gauge.  

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Posted by PC101 on Friday, May 21, 2021 6:52 PM

Get some copper strip stock and bend your own.

.011'' thick

.189''wide (side to side)

Appox. 1.651'' long (end to end)

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, May 21, 2021 2:48 PM

zstripe
By the way Mike, My friend from the UK told Me to Please give You a big Thank You from Him for having those parts that He needed, all those connectors You sent to Me for Him.

Glad I could help Frank.  Yes

Mike.

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Posted by MetrolinkFan on Friday, May 21, 2021 7:11 AM

I have also noticed when i place the athearn metal wheels into a six axle truck. the wheels are tight and the gears,They do not roll smooth.What can be causing this to happan?

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:08 AM

mbinsewi

 

 
MetrolinkFan
No I have the silver connector strips im talking about the,Copper connector.That goes over the springs.Ontop of the bottom and top of the motor,Thanks for the replies.The assembely clip 84017

 

Yes  Got it!

Mike.

 

 

By the way Mike, My friend from the UK told Me to Please give You a big Thank You from Him for having those parts that He needed, all those connectors You sent to Me for Him. I finally was able to get a box shipped to Him, with all this stuff in world going on. Seven hundred dollars worth of HO scale parts etc. started on 1 1/2yr. ago and it got there in one piece...Great!

I'm still around but not much on forums..

Take Care!Smile, Wink & Grin

Frank

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, May 20, 2021 9:05 AM

MetrolinkFan
No I have the silver connector strips im talking about the,Copper connector.That goes over the springs.Ontop of the bottom and top of the motor,Thanks for the replies.The assembely clip 84017

Yes  Got it!

Mike.

 

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Posted by kasskaboose on Thursday, May 20, 2021 8:08 AM

Those diagrams are extremely helpful.  I need to order some fans and handrails for my locos and great knowing the types.  Ok, who else is with me on replacing hand rails?  C'mon, be honest!

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Posted by MetrolinkFan on Thursday, May 20, 2021 7:38 AM

No I have the silver connector strips im talking about the,Copper connector.That goes over the springs.Ontop of the bottom and top of the motor,Thanks for the replies.The assembely clip 84017.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, May 20, 2021 6:38 AM

OK, I thought the OP was talking about the brass strip that goes over the motor, and to each truck, called the connector clip.

Mike.

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Posted by MetrolinkFan on Wednesday, May 19, 2021 4:03 PM

I need 4 two for the top motor 2 for the bottom motor.Thanks for the replys

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:26 PM

Called an assembly clip:

This is a diagram of a Jet motor.  I don't know if all the assembly clips are the same, but that is what the part is called.

A lot of people have those motors hanging around because they've been replaced with newer motors.  If you talk nice, maybe someone will pop a couple in an envelope and mail to youSmile

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, May 19, 2021 3:16 PM

That is a part of the motor and not replaceable.  How many do you need?

I would look for a replacement motor.  If you can find a Mabuchi FK-280SA 14200 motor it would work better than the Athearn motor.

EDIT:

Mabuchi FK-280SA motor in an Athearn SD40-2 frame.

Mabuchi FK-280 with Atheran flywheels.



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