I build a lot of fallen flag 1/87 truck line models and use photo etched stainless steel details, mirrors,wipers etc. With over 150 different models, I use nothing but, GS Hypo Jewelers cement. Have not had any problems with parts falling off or fogging including acetate window glazing on all models that I have for Myself and have built for others. The tip of the glue has a stainless steel tube applicator with a hole the size of a #80 drill bit. A lot better than Canopy glue or CA. It is not a CA also:
https://gssupplies.com/gs-hypo-cement/
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Frank
If you buy Canopy Glue at a Hobby Shop, you may be aloud to unscrew the cap to check for dried glue in the bottle. I have seen some bottles with a thin, up to thick dry skin on the top of the contents in the bottle. Maybe some drying is normal, I don't know.
PC101 Cal-Scale #190-419 looks like lost wax casting (picture in Walthers Catalog) show's a long pin to be inserted into a drilled hole in the frame/body. I can not say what size. Cal-Scale #190-517 (no picture in Walthers Catalog) but look up ''Bowser train'' parts and click on ''Cal Scale'' #190-517 or #190-518 flat brass or #190-619 Plastic. Yes looks like #517,518 and 619 has a ''pivot pin'' to go in to a drilled hole. Look at pictures of loco's. and decide where you want the wiper pivot, mark the hole with a very pointy pin, and mic. the size of the ''pivot pin'' and drill the hole. Drill smaller, you can always go larger. And as mentioned above, you should stick with Canopy Glue.
Cal-Scale #190-419 looks like lost wax casting (picture in Walthers Catalog) show's a long pin to be inserted into a drilled hole in the frame/body. I can not say what size.
Cal-Scale #190-517 (no picture in Walthers Catalog) but look up ''Bowser train'' parts and click on ''Cal Scale'' #190-517 or #190-518 flat brass or #190-619 Plastic. Yes looks like #517,518 and 619 has a ''pivot pin'' to go in to a drilled hole. Look at pictures of loco's. and decide where you want the wiper pivot, mark the hole with a very pointy pin, and mic. the size of the ''pivot pin'' and drill the hole. Drill smaller, you can always go larger.
And as mentioned above, you should stick with Canopy Glue.
Thanks. I guess I need to brush up on my internet skills. I will get some canopy glue also appreciate all the help and advice as always.
Cal-Scale #190-517 (no picture in Walthers Catalog) but look up ''Bowser train'' parts and click on ''Cal Scale'', HO Diesel and go down to ''W'' #190-517 or #190-518 flat brass or #190-619 Plastic. Yes looks like #517,518 and 619 has a ''pivot pin'' to go in to a drilled hole. Look at pictures of loco's. and decide where you want the wiper pivot, mark the hole with a very pointy pin, and mic. the size of the ''pivot pin'' and drill the hole. Drill smaller, you can always go larger.
I suggest not using CA, no matter how small the amount. As you are already aware, it will fog the glass if any of the CA fumes get to it. Better to be safe and get some Canopy Cement.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
PC101 I thought the ones I have needed to have a vrey tiny predrilled hole where the pivot attached to the frame/body of the loco.
I thought the ones I have needed to have a vrey tiny predrilled hole where the pivot attached to the frame/body of the loco.
That is possible. I can't find the instructions for the cal scale detail kit online anywhere to know for sure. Was just trying to ensure I had everything I needed and wouldn't be waiting for.something I didn't order
I thought the ones I have (not Cal-Scale brand) needed to have a very tiny predrilled hole where the pivot attached to the frame/body of the loco. That's where I glued them. Put tiny droplet of CA in the hole and insert wiper pivot stud in the hole, being sure where you want the wiper blade on the window before sticking it in the hole.
I had to replace a wiper switch once, never had to do that until Jason Shron started producing locomotives.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
I went a step further and masked off an area of "clean" windshield then gave a light coat of Dullcote. You can see a bit of this effect on the FT demo photo in a previous post.
NYC_1607_nose_edited-1 by Edmund, on Flickr
I don't do it on all the locos but it makes a neat detail for a few. I also modeled the flipped-up MU door as this was a common problem on the NYC Es and Fs.
NYC_E8-4040 by Edmund, on Flickr
Good Luck, Ed
Wolf359 The frame above the window is correct for the wiper motor mount on most diesels
The frame above the window is correct for the wiper motor mount on most diesels
Good question. I have seen them starting on the frame and the blade part extending onto the window. I just assumed they were glued to the window and the frame. Is it strong enough if only attached at the frame?
SeeYou190 Do your windshield wipers go onto the windows? . I have always mounted mine to the frame above the window. I assumed the wiper motor was there. . Is this something else I have been doing wrong? . -Kevin .
Do your windshield wipers go onto the windows?
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I have always mounted mine to the frame above the window. I assumed the wiper motor was there.
Is this something else I have been doing wrong?
-Kevin
The frame above the window is correct for the wiper motor mount on most diesels like this EMD FT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_FT#/media/File:GM_103_at_Railfair.jpg and this GE ET44 Evolution: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:GE_ET44AC_locomotives_of_BNSF#/media/File:BNSF_1991.jpg I hope this helps.
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canopy cement ... probably any cement meant for clear objects
I am looking at detailing a couple of my diesel locomotives while waitng to get my railroad started. As I was figuring out my order it occured to me I don't know what type of adhesive to use for attaching metal windshield wipers to plastic windows. Liquid plastic cement doesn't sound like a good idea, and CA has a tendency to fog the plastic. What do all of you use?