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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 11:48 PM

I liked the description a few days ago of the Cuda Ken.  I know you're going to enjoy driving that on the first Sunny Sunday as I will enjoy driving my Mach 1

If you could just post a little sneak peek, I would love to see itYes

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 12:41 AM

Jimmy_Braum
 It was my dad's house, and when he passed back in June I inherited it.  Not the way I wanted to get it, but I own a house, and a little under an acre of land in a "higher class" township

Hey Jimmy,

I understand your feelings about how the house came to be yours, but there is nothing wrong with getting an inheritance. My parents helped Dianne and I pay off our mortgage long before we could have on our own. Their money came from selling property that my ancestors acquired almost 200 years ago (the sale was forced upon us by the draconian inheritance laws of the time or we would still have the land). Be proud of what your family has done for you!

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:11 AM

Good morning everyone,

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My wife and I had a remarkable evening last night in Atlanta.

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It started out disappointing. We wanted to eat at Crispy B's Bar-B-Q on main street in NW Atlanta, but when we got there, it had burned down! What a tragedy. One of the best smoked meat eateries in the South is gone.

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We jumped on I-75 North and scooted up to Acworth to eat at Henry's Louisiana Grill.

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Acworth is a super-cute town with the CSX mainline running double tracked right through the heart of the city. They are building this neat pedestrian bridge to get over the tracks.

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They are also building a nifty new freight station for some reason.

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And they even have a caboose.

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Downtown has all kinds of restored wall billboard paintings.

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Henry's is one of those restaurants that you absolutely need to visit at least once. I have been there scores of times. 

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Last night I had the hush puppies as an appetizer. You might not think that hush puppies can be made into AWESOME, but trust me, they can!

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For the entree I had the balckened catfish filets over cheesy grits with a creamy crawfish suace... SO GOOD!

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Chef Henry even came out and said HI to my wife and myself. He gave us Mardi Gras beads, and posed for a quick picture.

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So what started out a little bad, turned into a great night out. A CSX freight even drove by as we were leaving Acworth.

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I hope everyone is doing well. Stay safe.

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-Kevin

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:34 AM

Kevin, I've always wanted to visit Louisiana, looks like a great place.

I Always have wanted to see New Orleans street car system to. 

 

Dave, I just reread your post to me.  You're right, it's my inheritance.  Now I just need the FT job, and I'll be set for awhile  

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:45 AM

Good moring, Diners...... I'll have coffee and a donut, please. 

Dave .... Your post was a very kind and thoughtful message for Jimmy. Hats off to you. 

Kevin .... Sounds like you are having an enjoyable trip in Georgia.  a few years ago I treated my wife to a borthday celebration in Atlanta. Her birthay dinner was at Morton's. 

Meanwhile, back in Illinois, here is a Chicago and Eastern Illinois train. 

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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:44 PM

I'm Baaaaaaaacccccckkkkk.......

Yep I survived the time in Key West and had a wonderful trip!  Had help navigating from point A to point B in the Atlanta Airport.....  Being hearing impared has it's advantages sometimes.  The young lady who came to help me get to the gate where I was to board the second flight arrived with a wheelchair for me.  I laughed and said I have trouble hearing but power walk about 18 to 20 miles a week and don't think I need the wheelchair quite yet....  She walked very fast and I was able to keep pace with no problem at all.

On the way back from the Key West airport the plane had to wait about 15 minutes at the runway because, due to a heavy storm that came through they had two planes that had to land before we could take off.  My flight ended up in a holding pattern for well over an hour in the Florida panhandle and was 5 minutes away from being sent to another airport because of the system.  That had me uneasy....  At the last moment they were cleard to proceed to Atlanta.  The plane made up a bit of time but still was way over an hour late and by the time we got off , I had all of 20 minutes to get to the next gate to board the plane...  I asked the first skycap I saw about the help I was supposed to get to guide me to the gate, he checked out my boarding pass and looked up where the gate was located.  I arrived at Gate B10.  My next flight was to board at B14 about 30 yards down the hall.  I made it with no problem.  Landed in Rochester, NY about 11:35pm and got to my Volt about a mile away before I froze to death (it was a bit colder in Rochester).  Made it home by 1:15am.   Long day!

My friend and I did have a great time together, some great meals (she is a fine cook), some serious conversations, just had fun being around each other, and...  I enjoyed very much the concert she sang in.  Got to meet her daughter (also in the concert), toured the Botanical Gardens, the Hemmingway House,  and walked a lot of the downtown area.  Went to her church Sunday Morning, and I went to St. Pauls Episcopal Church for a rehearsal and again for the concert Sunday night.  Also ate several meals out at some of the great restaurants there.  Oh, I also consumed 3 pieces of Key Lime Pie.....  GOOOOOOODDD!

She fed me way too well, I might add.  Imagine my surprise when I dared to get on the scales this morning to find out I actually lost 3 lbs. while I was there.  Guess we did walk a lot!  Huh? No, there was none of that going on.  Embarrassed LOL

73

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:08 PM

Late afternoon all, had monsoons from 24hrs ago up til noonYes now a mixed bag. The foliage is starting to return to normal. More rain for the week ahead and we'll take it.

Jimmy nothin wrong with getting an inheritance, I dare say most of us get something handed down to us. My family can be traced back to the Swan River Valley in Manitoba when it was settled in the 1790s. Of course, there were also lots of other immigrants since then as well. My grandfather was sent to Canada as a Barnardo boy and did quite well for himself despite his rough start.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/special/ourcityourworld/uk/the-barnardo-boys-149343895.html 

My sister was the first to go to University and even though I stopped with High School we both have done very well. There is a lot of info on the generations since that first group in the 1790s that we have obtained and every generation has done better than the previous one. Always leave more than you came with is making a contribution to the betterment of all. 

I remember having extensive talks with my parents about their estate and have had some very long talks with my kids about ours, even though they were/are just in high school. Our family has gone from dirt farmers that barely survived when they arrived in America to the point where my kids will not have to work at all if they choose not to. Though I know neither would waste their lives like that. They will be getting a trust instead of a lump sum. It was their choice after hearing the benefits of both from the lawyers.

Production sample, can't wait!

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Spent more time in the trainroom today trying to get creative with some lighting experiments. Reading up on how other people do things and am determined to invent a better mousetrap.Laugh

Talked to the kid in Ottawa a lot today, school is done except for exams. His lowest grade on anything this year was an A-. He is making me mighty proud as is my daughter, she is back above 98% on the year. I am rubbing my hands as that means lots of scholarships for both of them. We started their University accounts when they were born and it has hardly been touched. It will go towards down payments on a house for them if not used. They work hard they get the reward. 

Hockey playoffs start tonight, wife came home with Corona and limes, life is good.

Kevin, I have never had grits, don't even know what they are and I am not sure if I have had Catfish, that looked pretty good though. I ate a whole pizza last night, it was pretty big. Won't put much of a dent in the calorie count as I am burning about 4000 a day right now with this new HIIT(high-intensity intermittent training) routine on the bike. I think I am going to try and get back out on the road again. I find it painful riding on the road when the Arthritis is bad, every bump is agony. We shall see.

Had to go hunting for the Diner as it had fallen way down. Jeffery would never let that happen and without Ulrich, traffic flow is not too high these days.

First round on me tonight just because life is good.

All the best to all.

Brent

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:17 PM

 

Not every train gets out of Chicago without a few bumps in the road!

 

 PRR_5805_CUS by Edmund, on Flickr

E8 5805A was only seven months old when the CB&Q train got in his way while backing into C.U.S. on March 10, 1954. 72 people were injured and a CUS police officer had a fatal heart attack as a result of the excitement.

For some reason the pilot at the rear of the empty CB&Q train backing into CUS did not stop for a restricting signal and entered the path of the departing PRR train # 58.

Ouch!

Here's the 5805A in better days:

 PRR_EPA-5805 by Edmund, on Flickr

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:21 PM

howmus
Huh? No, there was none of that going on.  LOL

Glad you didn't make me have to ask Ray.Smile, Wink & GrinLaugh

Glad you had a great trip.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:24 PM

gmpullman
For some reason the pilot at the rear of the CB&Q train backing into CUS did not stop for a restricting signal and entered the path of the departing PRR train # 58.

Would you mind elaborating a bit Ed?,   just so I understand more, so there was a guy, (pilot) at the rear of the CB&Q train that could control the train?  or give signals to the engineer? who controls the train?

Thanks,

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Posted by NWP SWP on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:26 PM

I think Ed means that the power ran around to the rear and was towing the train from the rear.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:59 PM

mbinsewi
 just so I understand more, so there was a guy, (pilot) at the rear of the CB&Q train that could control the train?  or give signals to the engineer? who controls the train?

NWP SWP
I think Ed means that the power ran around to the rear and was towing the train from the rear.

From what I gather, the PRR train got permission to leave and was moving out (south, RR east) the CB&Q train was coming from the 14th St. coach yard. Backing in with the pilot, basically a brakeman, in the observation car where there is a brake valve inside a small compartment.

The pilot seems to have missed, ignored or maybe wasn't even watching for signals and did not use his brake valve to stop the back-up movement.

The engineer would watch his brake gauge and shut the throttle when he sees the brake-pipe pressure drop, indicating that the pilot was initiating a reduction or stop.

The PRR engineer put his train into emergency when he saw that the CB&Q train was occupying his track. The CB&Q train was supposed to wait for #58 to clear, then back into the same track he just left from.

Tower operator sounded emergency horn but no one heard it to stop movement. Impact was only about 14 combined MPH, each train slowed to about 7-10 MPH at impact.

EMD locos are designed with "crumple-zones" which obviously seem to work! Several cars of the PRR train derailed. Clear weather and about three in the afternoon. Pilot simply wasn't performing his duties.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:02 PM

Good evening. 

Ed ... That is an interesting collision.  I recall seeing many Burlington trains backing into Union Station .  There was always a member of the crew at the rear with controls for brakes .  I don’t recall use of the word, pilot, for that job. .i thought it was the brakeman..... Apparently, the E8 had more damage than the Budd observation car, and that is remarkable. 

 

Ray ... Thanks for sharing with us your enjoyable trip. I’m glad you are home safely even if it was cold at your home. 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:05 PM

gmpullman
Backing in with the pilot, basically a brakeman, in the observation car where there is a brake valve inside a small compartment.

Thanks Ed !  Now I know how it all worked, and the procedure that is suppose to happen!

And thank you Garry for your comments on the rear brakeman.  You posted while I typed my response to Ed.

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Posted by cudaken on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:45 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer Please and leave a stein outside for Ulrich.

 Really nothing to talk about today, so I guess that is good?

 Not a single new customer at work today! Bang Head I am on the Titanic of Mattress Stores.

 Ed You sure that photo was not of a BLI F-7 ? Kind of a inside joke if you have been following my and Ed's post.

 Later, Ken 

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Posted by OldEngineman on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:52 PM

Got a surprise this evening when I won an auction on ebay for a Walthers GP35.

Ebay is now charging sales tax!  Doesn't apply to every state yet, but does apply to mine (CT). The seller for this particular item was in PA.

Somethin' I don't quite get, however. When you buy something on ebay, you are "buying" from the seller -- NOT from ebay. ebay is [what I would guess is called] a "broker", a "man-in-the-middle".

I realize there was a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision that established that "a nexus" wasn't needed for some states to require sellers in other states to collect sales tax. But again, ebay isn't "the seller" here, merely a facilitator in the sale.

Wondering how they can get away with that? I would reckon they'll get challenged on that at some point.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 11:53 PM

OldEngineman
Ebay is now charging sales tax!

That has applied in Ohio for quite some time now IF I buy from another seller in Ohio. The thing that gets me is that the tax was already paid by the original purchaser when the item was first sold — how many years ago?

There's even state sales tax on the postage

Even at train shows (flea markets) many sellers collect sales tax. Auto parts, if there is a "core charge" like when you return your old starter, battery or alternator, you guessed it — another sales tax on the refund of the core charge. I was amazed when I discovered this one.

There were petitions circulating from eBay a while back but it looks like they didn't have much luck at avoiding the inevitable.

Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman
If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.
Don't ask me what I want it for
If you don't want to pay some more
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
George Harrison

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:25 AM

Jimmy_Braum
I was asked, here Is a small panorama of the layout room, and the eventual expansion 

Hi Jimmy,

The panoramic shots make it hard to judge the actual space available. Could you post some regular shots, maybe with the last picture a bit brighter? A detailed floor plan would help too.

Good luck with the job search. Have you considered adding your renovation skills to your resume as part of your general information? Not everyone can do those things.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:01 AM

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:16 AM

hon30critter

 

 
Jimmy_Braum
I was asked, here Is a small panorama of the layout room, and the eventual expansion 

 

Hi Jimmy,

The panoramic shots make it hard to judge the actual space available. Could you post some regular shots, maybe with the last picture a bit brighter? A detailed floor plan would help too.

Good luck with the job search. Have you considered adding your renovation skills to your resume as part of your general information? Not everyone can do those things.

Dave

 

 

ill draw up a blue print of the basement later on today.  I'll need t figure out how to remove a brick from a load bearing wall as well. In order to access the second room, I'll need to tunnel through the wall.  space is 25 or 26 ft by 30 with another 10-12 ft for layout.  I can also finally set up a work bench and paint booth with a vent! 

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Posted by GMTRacing on Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:44 AM

Good Morning All,

   30F and partly cloudy this morning. Not bad. I'll have a regular and a blueberry bagel please Zoe.

   Welcome back Ray. Glad you had a good time in Fla. Nothing like Key Lime Pie in the Keys.... You were lucky at Atlanta on the way back. Usually I have to move from one terminal to another which takes much longer than a hop, skip and jump. I do have all the airline stuff on my phone but they (especially Delta) are not real good about posting gates for connecting flights. 

   OE, I hear you but we really need the extra money as we are insolvent here. If you had gone out of state personally, they are supposed to report to the state when you buy something. A sales tax is just that, a conveyance tax for the privilige of spending your very own hard earned dollars. Long ago I got a great deal on a car out of state and then had to pay Connecticut sales tax even though I had gone out of state to pick said car up. Something about death and taxes. Hope I didn't get us in trouble again with Steve O just now, but........

    Took a night off from the layout as I w**ked late. We have three weekends coming up with two race meetings the same weekend and the first a week before. Sometimes this is like a real job. Probably need to stay late again tonight as things tend to pile up when you're not looking.

   That said, time to pick up tools and get at it.    Cheers, J.R.

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Posted by Erie1951 on Thursday, April 11, 2019 8:13 AM

Good Morning, Crew! Just a coffee for me right now. We've seen what operated above ground in Chicago, now let's take a look at what operated below ground by the Illinois Tunnel Co. many years ago. At one time, Chicago had what was called "freight tunnels" with two-foot narrow gauge electric motors and cars that moved freight to different department stores and office buildings forty feet under the streets. Here's a link to a page from my vintage railroad postcard blog showing the tunnels, cars, and motors with links to additional information.

http://railroadpostcards.blogspot.com/2010/11/underground-chicago.html

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, April 11, 2019 8:33 AM

 

OOPS!  I guess you fixed your link while I typed.  I was going to make it live.

Didn't the tunnels flood a couple of different times?  

IIRC, one of those times was during a bridge construction project?

The MR site is sure running weird today. Slow.

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:01 AM

SeeYou190
For the entree I had the balckened catfish filets over cheesy grits with a creamy crawfish suace... SO GOOD!

Snow and rain, this time with high winds again.  I'm not really complaining -- since I can't get to outside projects, I'll have to spend time on the layout.

Kevin, I lived in New Orleans for 20 years, met my wife there, and raised my family there.  The thing I miss most is what you show in your picture -- the food!  Little hole-in-the-wall restaurants sometimes had the best food for the cheapest prices.

Great pictures of Chicago railroads.

York1 John       

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Posted by Track fiddler on Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:02 AM

Good Morning

It's hard to believe I was working outside in a t-shirt a couple days ago, in the beautiful mid 60s.  It did not surprise me when Minnesota threw one more winter storm at us.  One more Blaster is usually pretty typical for April.

I'm sure glad the timing was right for this thing though.  Right now the airport is shut down but should be all in the clear for Sunday.  

We fly out of this crap headed for Laughlin, Nevada.   Lion.... The plane leaves at 4:20 a.m. if you're still coming.  I'll leave the porch light on for ya.  Still looking forward to Prime Rib NightDinner

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Posted by dti406 on Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:21 AM

OldEngineman

Got a surprise this evening when I won an auction on ebay for a Walthers GP35.

Ebay is now charging sales tax!  Doesn't apply to every state yet, but does apply to mine (CT). The seller for this particular item was in PA.

Somethin' I don't quite get, however. When you buy something on ebay, you are "buying" from the seller -- NOT from ebay. ebay is [what I would guess is called] a "broker", a "man-in-the-middle".

I realize there was a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision that established that "a nexus" wasn't needed for some states to require sellers in other states to collect sales tax. But again, ebay isn't "the seller" here, merely a facilitator in the sale.

Wondering how they can get away with that? I would reckon they'll get challenged on that at some point.

 

In this case it is not E-Bay that is collecting the tax, they are just a conduit of funds between you the the seller. Obviously the seller is large enough to have caught the State's eyes, as the new court decision which the states are following has a dollar limit or number of sales limit to deterine if the seller has to charge tax. Since some of the sellers are actually arms of a large internet store they have to collect the tax due to exceeding the limits.

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Posted by Erie1951 on Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:51 AM

mbinsewi
OOOPS  I guess you fixed your link while I typed.  I was going to make it live. Didn't the tunnels flood a couple of different times?  IIRC, one of those times was during a bridge construction project? The MR site is sure running weird today. Slow.

Hey, Mike...Yeah, I fixed the link after I posted it. I forgot to use the link icon. Dunce The forum is running slow today on my end, too. Grumpy I think that a number of years ago there was a water main break in downtown Chicago that caused flooding and especially in the abandoned freight tunnels. Perhaps one of our Chicago resident members can add to this. Before the tunnel operations changed to overhead power, the trains ran on power supplied by a contact rail in a slot between the tracks. Really not such a good idea if there was a water problem. That, combined with safety concerns, was reason enough to install a trolley system.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:52 AM

There is plenty of info out there on Ebay's tax policy, along with individual states info.

I'm in WI. amd if I buy from a seller in WI., I pay sales tax, and if the seller falls within a certain dollar amount, he has to turn the tax in.  More paper work than I care to get involved in.

This site is running different today, loading is slow, it "looks" different in my screen than before,  and I had to refresh a couple of times to get this whole page to load.  I fear they are changing things again.

Sometimes, I now get a message at the top of the screen that says: "cs.trains.com says:  Type Error  Cannot read property 'length' of null"  ???  Confused  Indifferent

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:08 PM

mbinsewi
This site is running different today, loading is slow, it "looks" different in my screen than before,  and I had to refresh a couple of times to get this whole page to load.  I fear they are changing things again. Sometimes, I now get a message at the top of the screen that says: "cs.trains.com says:  Type Error  Cannot read property 'length' of null"  ???

I've noticed that for the past few days, too, Mike. My usual method of using the *url* brackets on site links is no longer working the way it used to. When I insert a photo or link all the text following that is in blue!

I can go back and reformat the text and "clear formatting" but it is still acting wonky. The IT gurus are fiddling again Indifferent

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:13 PM

I just called CS, and the young lady told me they have been doing a "system up-date" and that IT is still working on it.

Going by past experiences, that is NOT good news.  Here we go again!  Tongue Tied

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