Floquil Paint to Military Color Conversion Chart V1.1

[sh00fly]

Hey Everyone,

I decided to move this post to it's own thread so it will be easier to find then trying to unearth it from a series of pages in the other topic.

Can't claim these colors are "dead ringers" an exact match but they should get you pretty close. There are many more possible paint matches out there with different finishes available. It's just a matter of taking the time to discover more. I will try to keep this up to date the best I can. This is the first version and hopefully will help alleviate some stress of trying to find an upgrade path to the right colors.

Revell had a conversion chart put together by Testors. In there you will discover some Floquil colors matched to Model Master colors if you read from right to left. Very handy to have.

http://downloads.hobbico.com/misc/rmx/TES_Revell_Paint_Match_Guide.pdf

• VA - Vallejo *available from The War Store http://www.thewarstore.com/vallejomodelcolors.html
• MM - Model Masters
• TE - Testors
• TS - Tamiya Spray
• GS - Gunze Sangyo
• HU - Humbrol *available from Hornby America http://hornbyamerica.com/shop/humbrol/enamel-paints
• X, XF - Tamiya
• A - Acrylic
• E - Enamel
• F - Flat
• G - Gloss
• M - Metallic

	Floquil Color	New Man.	Part #	New Color Name	Kind	Sheen
	Dust	VA	70.820 #4	Offwhite	A
	Rail Brown	VA	70.795 #216	Green gold	A
	Primer	MM	1730	Flat Gull Gray	E	F
	Engine Black	MM	1747	Gloss Black	E	G
	Reefer White	MM	2720	Classic White	E	G
	Reefer Grey	TE	1233	Flat Light Aircraft Gray	E	F
	Grimy Black	VA	70.924 #94	Russian Uniform WW2	A
	Railroad Tie Brown	HU	10	Service Brown	E	G
	Flat Clear	MM	2015	Flat Clear	L	F
	Aged Concrete	VA	70.976 #120	Buff	A
	Weathered Black	XF	56	Metallic Grey	A	F
	Caboose Red 110020	MM	1705	Insignia Red	E	F
	Flesh	VA	70.928 #6	Light Flesh	A
	Tuscan	MM	1701	Military Brown	E	F
	Reefer Orange	HU	18	Orange	E	G
	Reefer Yellow	MM	28104	Chrysler Yellow	E	G
	Railbox Yellow	MM	1708	Insignia Yellow	E	F
	Brunswick Green	XF	63	German Grey	A	F
	Burlington Northern Green	GS	66	Bright Green	A	F
	Dark Green	MM	1710	Dark Green	E	F
	Light Green	MM	1716	Pale Green	E	F
	Depot Olive	XF	5	Flat Green	A	F
	Pullman Green	HU	86	Matt Light Olive	E	F
	Coach Green	XF	71	Cockpit Green	A	F
	Dark Blue	TS	15	Blue	A	G
	Light Blue	XF	18	Medium Blue	A	F
	Missouri Pacific Blue	TE	1172	Flat Sea Blue	E	F
	Missouri Pacific Lighter Blue	VA	70.961 #67	Sky Blue	A	F
	Missouri Pacific Grey	HU	40	Pale Grey	E	G
	Great Northern Sky Blue	MM	2715	French Blue	E	G
	Conrail Blue	MM	2012	Cobalt Blue	E	F
	Signal Red 1	MM	2719	Italian Red	E	G
	Roof Brown (Orig)	VA	70.941 #148	Burnt Umber	A	F
	Dust	MM	2010	Sand Beige	E	F
	Rust	MM	1785	Rust	E	F
	Boxcar Red	XF	64	Red Brown	A	F
	Earth	MM	1706	Sand	E	F
	Concrete	MM	1726	Light Sea Gray	E	F
	Mud	XF	57	Buff	A	F
	Foundation	MM	1709	Radome Tan	E	F
	Antique White	VA	70.918 #5	Ivory	A
	Grime	MM	1733	Camouflage Gray	E	F
	Depot Buff	HU	81	Matt Pale Yellow	E	F
	Caboose Red 110088	HU	133	Satin Brown	E	F
	Old Silver	MM	2714	German Silver Metallic	E	M
	Bright Silver	MM	1402	Stainless Steel	E	M
	Bright Gold	HU	16	Gold	E	M
	Brass	MM	1417	Brass	E	M
	Copper	MM	2922	Champagne Gold	E	M
	Gun Metal	TS	38	Gun Metal	E	G
	Graphite	TS	40	Metallic Black	E	G
	Southern Pacific Lettering Grey	MM	1729	Gloss Gull Gray	E	G
	Southern Pacific Lark Light Grey	VA	70.884 #104	Stone Grey	A
	Southern Pacific Lark Dark Grey	MM	1791	Navy Gloss Grey	E	G
	Southern Pacific Lark Dark Grey Matches Athearn RTR SP Grey	MM	1788	Euro I Gray	E	F
	Union Pacific Armour Yellow	TE	2118	Deep Yellow	E	G
	Southern Pacific Daylight Orange	MM	2770	GO Mango	E	G
	Southern Pacific Daylight Red	VA	70.910 #27	Orange Red	A
	Southern Pacific Scarlet Red	MM	2733	Ford Engine Red	E	G
	Platinum Mist	VA	70.883 #152	Silver Grey	A
	Union Pacific Armour Yellow(faded)	HU	103	Matt Cream	E	F
	Union Pacific Harbour Mist Grey	XF	20	Medium Grey	A	F
	PFE Light Orange	GS	109	Character Yellow	E	F
	Southern Green	MM	1764	European Green	E	F
	Southern Freight Car Brown	HU	186	Brown	E	F
	Santa Fe Red	TE	1150	Flat Red	E	F
	Santa Fe Blue	MM	1719	Insignia Blue	E	F
	Santa Fe Yellow	MM	2023	Blue Angels Yellow	E	F
	Santa Fe Mineral Brown	MM	1785	Rust	E	F
	Reading Green	HU	116	Matt US Dark Green	E	F
	Tuscan Red	TE	1140	Brown	E	G
	Oxide Red	MM	2009	British Crimson	E	F
	Canadian National Orange #11	VA	70.911 #22	Light Orange	A
	Canadian National Orange #11	MM	4629	Chevy Engine Red	E	G
	Canadian National Grey #17	XF	55	Deck Tan	A	F
	Canadian National Yellow #12	MM	1707	Chrome Yellow	E	G
	Canadian National Green #12	HU	1325	Green	E
	CNW Yellow	MM	201	Cadmium Light Yellow	E	F
	CNW Green	XF	70	Dark Green	A	F
	Wisc. Central Gold	TE	1112	Light Yellow	E	F
	Wisc. Central Maroon Milwaukee Road Maroon	MM	28112	Honduras Maroon	E	G
	TTX Yellow	VA	70.949 #10	Light Yellow	A
	MKT Green	GS	312	Green	E	F
	NYC/PC Green	TE	4210	Verdigris	A	G
	CSX Grey	TE	1226	Flat Dark Aircraft Gray	E	F
	CSX Blue	VA	70.809 #54	Royal Blue	A
	CSX Black	TE	1147	Black	E	G
	CSX Yellow	MM	1707	Chrome Yellow	E	G
	SOO Line Red	HU	1321	Red	E
	Zinc Chromate Primer	MM	2003	Skin Tone Warm - Tint	E	F
	Aero Light Gray Primer	MM	1728	Light Ghost Gray	E	F
	Aero Base Black Primer	MM	1749	Flat Black	E	F
	Aero Base White Primer	MM	1168	Flat White	E	F
	D&H Blue	MM	2940	Racing Blue	E	G
	D&H Grey	MM	1721	Medium Gray	E	F
	UPS Trailer Grey ACFX Hopper Grey	MM	2077	Licht Grau RLM63	E	F
	MILW Federal Yellow	MM	2717	Bright Yellow	E	G
	Milwaukee Road Orange Pre 1973	TE	1127	Orange	E	G
	Milwaukee Road Orange Post 1973 Athearn D&RGW RTR Action Orange	X	6	Orange	A	G
	SSI-Itel Orange	MM	4225	Coast Guard Orange	A	G
	Erie-Lackawanna Maroon	TE	4225	Dark Red	E	G
	Erie-Lackawanna Grey LMX Locomotive Grey	MM	1726	Light Sea Gray	E	F

 Hope this helps out a bit with future modeling projects. Let's keep it fun

Chris Palomarez

[zstripe]

Chris,

Thank You,,,,,,very thoughtful of you to do that....

Cheers,

Frank

[cedarwoodron]

Chris: You are doing great work on this master correlation schedule (fancy words, but accurate). One thing I have been using for a while is the Rustoleum (also RPM's products) spray paints for some colors, such as metal primer red for boxcar or oxide red and dark gray primer for a sort of grimy black, a la Pollyscale. Unfortunately, I have also found that the Krylon plastic fusion spray, which has some notable colors, is better on flat surfaces. It tends to not cover edges as well, and is relatively thin. I tried using a bit of sprayed Fusion paint ( sprayed into a small disposable bottle) and found that it is a poor touch up paint when used with a brush. Rustoleum or Walmart cheep light gray primer appears to be of smaller pigment particulate size and works for a general primer on bare plastic. I would recommend a primer coat under the lighter Tamiya colors, to enliven the yellows, etc. Cedarwoodron

[sh00fly]

Believe it or not, it was pretty fun to put this together, although my eyes started going cross after the 24th color. LOL

Thanks for that mention cedarwoodron. I'll take a look into them. I have in the past bottled spray paints by using a rag over the can and the bottle and squirting the entire contents of the can into the bottle. Makes good for airbrushing later. Of course follow all paint safety procedures when you do that. (respirator and latex gloves) it gets messy.

Chris Palomarez

[HO-Velo]

Chris,  Thanks, chart and info very helpful.

regards,   Peter

[cedarwoodron]

Actually Chris, you are doing a greater service to those of us in the model railroad community who are still "hands-on" than you realize. One of the things that might make our hobby stronger is to increase the level of conversation with similar hobbyists- the fine scale modelers who focus on military, auto, air/space craft, and fantasy figures- techniques that are used elsewhere and paint solutions that are employed elsewhere might well translate into applications for railroads. My sincere thanks. Cedarwoodron

[sh00fly]

Cedarwoodron,

I'm glad to contribute something of value. I can't vouch for perfection on the majority of these colors but hopefully it will help. I too custom paint models so a list like this I felt shouldn't be kept on my desktop for only me.

Just to reassure you that I didn't just throw darts at color swatches, and "guess" these colors. I cross referenced online various photos, bottoms of bottles, color swatches, spoons painted by other modelers, recommendations of other modelers, and other conversion charts, to give you my best educated pick. If you guys have or made a color match that you feel is closer then any of the ones listed, please share!

You guys are some of the nicest people on any forum I met

Chris Palomarez

[sh00fly]

Added a few more colors for the Milwaukee Road, Erie Lackawanna, SSI-ITEL, UPS, and a few extras. Updated to Version 1.1

Happy Thurs everyone!

Chris Palomarez

[NittanyLion]

I'd depleted my stock of EL Gray, so I went looking for this chart to find a stand-in.  Figured it could use a kick back up to the top of the thread list after 11 months.  It's a handy list.

[monon43]

Chris,

Any suggestions for a good spray paint substitution for Tuscan Red and Boxcar Red?

 

Thanks,

Andy