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Posted by Junctionfan on Saturday, September 4, 2004 9:58 PM
I went on to GE's website to take a look at their "Evolution Series" locomotives. They say they are more fuel efficient that their other models and they still operate at 4400hp power just with 12 instead of 16 cylinders. Of course everybody knows this is a strike against EMD's SD70ACE.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 6:43 PM
No problem, they do look a lot shorter than AC4400CW's and Dash 9's, I they are the same though, the radiators are a lot bigger.
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Posted by Junctionfan on Saturday, September 4, 2004 6:05 PM
Those are cool looking. They seem to be smaller and more compact looking plus the radiators at the back are more rounded at the top. Thanks for the picture comparison.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 1:25 PM
BNSF is ordering almost 400 more and UP is ordering some, don't know about NS yet.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 12:23 PM
You mean in the next 20 to 30 years from now...........[:D]!
Hey dougal your working to hard you Northeast goof nut............[:D][:D].

Event hough I do not like GE's,Those BNSF ES44AC Units look WOW OUT STANDINGLY GOOD LOOKING NICE!
Id sure like to have that thing in KATO! WOW!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 10:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

What are thease ES units-they look like AC4400CW to me.


UP C44AC-CTE (AC4400CW):
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=75085

UP C45AC-CTE (ES44AC):
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=34914

BNSF AC4400CW:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=68677

BNSF ES44AC:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=70563

NS C40-9W:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=75671

NS ES40DC:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=64267
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Posted by Junctionfan on Saturday, September 4, 2004 9:04 AM
What are thease ES units-they look like AC4400CW to me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 4, 2004 8:17 AM
I think in the next five years someone will make an SD70ACe's, ES40DC's and ES44AC's.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 3, 2004 8:16 PM
Hey that's fair.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 3, 2004 8:13 PM
Well thats true.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 3, 2004 7:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

I'm sure they wouldn't since there are already 2 companys (Athearn and Kato) making the 70 series.

Any why not?
Athearn and Atlas already make a GP38, but that didn't seem to phase P2K one bit!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 3, 2004 7:34 PM
I'm sure they wouldn't since there are already 2 companys (Athearn and Kato) making the 70 series.
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Posted by Junctionfan on Friday, September 3, 2004 3:52 PM
Does Proto 2000 plan on doing any SD70s?
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Posted by MRTerry on Friday, September 3, 2004 3:35 PM
Good guess - the story compares the new General Electric EVO series to the EMD SD70ACE. Hope you enjoy the story and the drawings, and thanks for reading MR.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 3, 2004 2:14 PM
Sounds like its going to be a good issue!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 3, 2004 12:52 PM
I guess I'm right, in the "coming next month" section it mentions GE.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 30, 2004 12:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MReditor

We have full-color scale drawings of this locomotive (drawings by Jeff Capps, color added by our own Rick Johnson) coming in the November issue. That issue includes a foldout with drawings of another locomotive as well, but I'll let the second locomotive be a surprise for now. Any guesses? There's a hint in your October issue.
Thanks for reading MR,
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I'm going to say an ES40DC or ES44AC.
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Posted by MRTerry on Monday, August 30, 2004 10:26 AM
We have full-color scale drawings of this locomotive (drawings by Jeff Capps, color added by our own Rick Johnson) coming in the November issue. That issue includes a foldout with drawings of another locomotive as well, but I'll let the second locomotive be a surprise for now. Any guesses? There's a hint in your October issue.
Thanks for reading MR,
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Posted by decoy706 on Sunday, August 29, 2004 11:40 PM
RPP Shell is the best starting place too bad their no longer available and yes overland has a contract with EMD so no plastic in HO for a while
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 8:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

Here's a good way to tell the difference, SD70ACe's are ugly, SD70MAC's aren't. [;)]

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Posted by ckape on Sunday, August 29, 2004 7:17 PM
I really like the nose on the 60-series and early 70- and 90-series locomotives, and the new nose and cab is a major step in the wrong direction. That said, I really like the look of the tail ends of the SD70ACe and SD90MAC-H. But of course, that's not what was asked, in response to that I haven't seen the old RPP SD90MAC-H shells, but I would assume that would be a good starting point for modelling a SD70ACe, giving Athearn a leg-up on the competition if they chose to produce an SD70ACe. Of course, I don't really think Athearn is going to be producing new models for a while, least of all of a prototype that only exists in two schemes right now.

Kato is probably your best bet, but I think there's a good chance we're not going to see any plastic models of the SD70ACe anytime soon, or maybe we'll get some models from somebody I've never heard of.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:50 PM
I don't care how ugly the SD70ACe is, I still like it very much!
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Posted by Allen Jenkins on Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:41 PM
Wow! What a pile of power! Thanks for the links, NightCrawler, I took the bait! At first, the fourty seven-hundred class looks to be in front of the paint shop, however the building in the left background looks like the engine shop. Know, the locomotive is probably there for training purposes. The second photo, has everything, including the kitchen sink. Thanks, Enjoy Your Hobby! ACJ.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 11:21 AM
Here's a good way to tell the difference, SD70ACe's are ugly, SD70MAC's aren't. [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:51 AM
there are quite a few differences between the SD70MAC and the SD70ACe

SD70ACe
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=37835

SD70MAC with flaired radiators
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=75715

i wonder if OMI has the only rights to do this locomotive like they have on the flaired SD70M's in HO scale. if they do end up coming in plastic, i would put my money on Kato. Athearn Genesis would be a distant second. it all depends on how many railroads end up ordering this locomotive. if it is only one or two, we might never see one except for maybe a resin shell from someone.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:44 AM
SD70ACe's have a squarer nose and a little different body styling than SD70MAC's. I'll be kato or athearn will make it first in HO.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 9:20 AM
Kato for N scale. Atlas seems to be stuck in 1st generation models. HO scale, probably everyone at the same time. Thats really the only drawback to N. But, in all seriousness, are there much exterior differences between say the SD70MAC and the SD10ACe? Would it just be easier/cheaper to modify the MAC model? Or am I just blowing smoke?

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Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, August 29, 2004 8:55 AM
Who will make the first one not in brass?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 29, 2004 8:53 AM
Have you noticed how fast Overland produces new locomotive models, kind of makes me wonder if they do some for EMD and GE. Only think that cause they release a new model and a few weeks later Overland has a production started as well.

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