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(poll) What is the most difficult and easiest type of industry to model.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bwtpwb

I am just starting, so they all seem difficult to me!!


I'm with you on this. But I should add that there is a lot of knowledge available in this forum all one needs to do is ask.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:59 PM
Easiest: Grain Elevator, team track

hardest: Oil efinery? Steel mill? Harbor?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:50 PM
if u want to consider railroads an idustry like i do they can be both simple and hard depending on the complexity
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:03 PM
I agree with John Colley.

Easiest by far is a team track. Just any old track, curved or straight ,laid out in a field where a wagon or truck can back up to the flat or box car. If you want to get really fancy you can add a dock. I saw one in St. Louis, vintage 1980, that was a track run over the top of a demolished building. There was a Frisco box car sitting there with chain run between two posts in front of it that said, "no parking loading zone". The sign looked like someone doodled it with a magicmarker. I think, hope, I got a picture of it.

Hardest - Steel Mill. Specialized buildings, specialized equipment, size, volume of cars in and out. Most of the ones I've seen people try to do on layouts look, well, like toys.

I also considered an open pit mine because of the size, or perhaps an operating ship to train container loading dock.
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Posted by Fergmiester on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:12 PM
The most difficult,I think would be a working brewery or in this case a micro brewery[:o)]

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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:24 PM
Easiest-- the PennsyHoosier Micro Brewery (as if I need ANOTHER hobby!).

Hardest--shutting down the PennsyHoosier Micro Brewery.

Both are "life sized," so to speak.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:43 PM
I have to say this:

Real Estate!

Acquiring space for HO empire.. err.. trains is very very difficult sometimes.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:52 PM
Easiest: Generic one box-car a week warehouse

Hardest- Steel mill
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:31 PM
I'll toss my hat into the ring,

While many people have said steel mills would be the hardest to model, and while complex and large, in my opinion any petrochemical plant would be more difficult, due to piping, cracking towers, and the numerous storage tanks with the associated piping involved.

Having seen and toured both types of facilities, my vote goes to petrochem, but both are daunting endeavors if modeled realistically. Steel mills do enable one to run a more varied number of car types.

Just my opinion.

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Posted by Jetrock on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 12:32 AM
Easy industry: An interchange! Any type of car, no structures at all necessary, foreign roadnames a plus!
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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, December 5, 2004 2:02 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bpickering

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp
I agree that a realistic oil refinery is the hardest industry. I am planning on building a 24,000 barrel/day refinery on my layout. I have years of research invested in it. Good thing I don't need any permits.


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Posted by Bikerdad on Monday, December 6, 2004 7:22 PM
Easiest?? Since I don't really consider a team track to be an INDUSTRY, I'll have to pass on that. Probably sports betting. Just put a small nondescript building next to the tracks with a couple of cars in front, and voila, done.

Hardest? Shipyard. Probably as complex as petrochemicals or steel mills, with the added complication of both the ship(s) and water. Shipyards take up lots of space, have fun cranes and gantrys, etc. One good thing about a shipyard is a lot of different loads can go into one.
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Posted by jkeaton on Friday, December 10, 2004 11:56 AM
Easiest: LCL freighthouse (great for those modelling up to the steam/diesel transition).

Hardest: Oh, boy, there are many. Shipyard (I really like this one!) Steel Mill. Aluminum smelter. Oil refinery. Chemical plant. But each, if you're interested in the industry, would be worthwhile to do.

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Posted by danmerkel on Friday, December 10, 2004 2:44 PM
Easiest? How about no industry at all??? MODEL RAILROADER did an article on an "industry" that was nothing more than a spur that went through a gate then behind a hill... presumably to go to a remote location. This could be used for coal, timber, or any industry that didn't sit trackside. I think theirs happened to be an explosives factory... on one wants that close at hand.

A little fancy track work and you could fool them with empties in & loads out trains as well.

Hardest? That would depend on the definition... an oil refinery would be tough to do model wise, a steel mill would require lots of tight trackage, a quarry would require a huge amount of space, auto assembly would require lots of trackage as well... it's a tough call.

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