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A Question For The Resident Psychologist.
Posted by BATMAN on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:14 PM

 Today I was running trains on the layout and to be a little different I thought I would run them in the opposite direction than I usually do. I ran them clockwise. For some reason, as always, it kinda bugged me to run them in the opposite direction than I usually do. I got to thinking back to all the layouts I have had in my life and I remembered that with every one of them I mostly ran the trains anticlockwise. Even with the larger layout I have now, where I sit in the middle of the room and they run all around me, essentially they still run anticlockwise. I am the kind of person that hates routine and loves change but for some reason this ones got me.Confused My question is why does my brain care what direction my trains travel in and do you always run your trains in the same direction? Are you a clockwise or anticlockwise kinda guy???

I think I need a hobby.Whistling

 

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Posted by steemtrayn on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:27 PM

A point - to - point layout is the only cure.

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:31 PM

 50% of the time the A line goes South and B goes North. But I do know where you are coming from. When I am in a store, I walk on the left side like I was driving.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:33 PM

 

steemtrayn

A point - to - point layout is the only cure.

 

I thought of that. But then will my turntables turn clockwise or ?????.Whistling

 

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Posted by SteamFreak on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:36 PM

 In the northern hemisphere it's clockwise. Down Under trains prefer running counter-clockwise. Wink

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:40 PM

cudaken

 50% of the time the A line goes South and B goes North. But I do know where you are coming from. When I am in a store, I walk on the left side like I was driving.

When I was visiting my fiancee in England, they drove on the left side of the road.  But you live in St Louis?

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:50 PM

 Never said I was a good driver! Whistling

 Slip of the keyboard so to speak.

 Not that left, your Military Left.

 

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Posted by UncBob on Monday, March 1, 2010 5:55 PM

 I have 2 ovals --one train in each direction

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, March 1, 2010 6:01 PM

UncBob

 I have 2 ovals --one train in each direction

 

 

 

The balanced approach.Big Smile

 

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Posted by Hamltnblue on Monday, March 1, 2010 6:12 PM

 Mine run clockwise but I used to run counter clockwise.  I'm considering going back to the Nascar direction of counter clockwise Whistling

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Monday, March 1, 2010 6:14 PM

On my layout we are a point to point-----hence I go out to the ends and back home----

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Posted by Packer on Monday, March 1, 2010 6:15 PM

Hamltnblue

 Mine run clockwise but I used to run counter clockwise.  I'm considering going back to the Nascar direction of counter clockwise Whistling

Left turns only?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, March 1, 2010 7:32 PM

When I was a teenager, my layout ran clockwise.  But, that was because I had too many derailments when I went counter-clockwise.  The grades were too steep.  The track probably had kinks, too, and I didn't know how to tune up the turnout points to keep things on the track.

Now, I make sure everything runs both ways.  Usually, I have one train on the passing siding going one way, and the train on the main line going the other, so it's just a matter of choosing which train I'm running to determine which direction around the layout they're going.  The layout extension will have double-ended staging for the same reason, and a second reverse loop so I can easily have any train running in either direction, without awkward backing or, heaven forbid, resorting to the 5-fingered turntable.

You see, being able to run in both directions is a matter of pride now.

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Posted by IVRW on Monday, March 1, 2010 8:03 PM
I have a very different situation, the operating scheme calls for one direction trains, yet I do it both ways when running.

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Posted by steemtrayn on Monday, March 1, 2010 8:05 PM

...Or, try a figure 8.

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Posted by larak on Monday, March 1, 2010 8:34 PM

BATMAN
Are you a clockwise or anticlockwise kinda guy???

 

Interesting question. I have a double track - one in each direction and a loop to loop mountain line. Not much help their either except!   ! I usually run both loops counter-clockwise. I thought that it was because the spurs work slightly better that way. Perhaps there is some hidden deep psychological meaning there instead? Probably not.

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Posted by Dallas Model Works on Monday, March 1, 2010 8:39 PM

My previous layout was a folded dogbone with a couple of cross-overs so trains ultimately ran both ways.

The current layout is incomplete so it's effectively point-to-point right now, but once it's all around the room, they'll still go in both directions -- gotta get the MTYs home somehow!

 

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Posted by mreagant on Monday, March 1, 2010 9:37 PM

Think about it.  If you're modeling a  historical American prototype road, the odds are that it was built east-to-west (yes, yes, I know there are exceptions) because that is the way this country was settled.  On any standard map east to west is right to left which, on an around-the-wall layout, would lead to construction  from east to west and if operations follow construction the empire would operate initially so that the result would lead to ............counter-clockwise train operation.

Once up and going the obvious operation would be in both directions lest excess of motive power sit idle at one terminus, resulting in revenue loss.  Zero sum game!

See, didn't need a psychologist, just a logician and historian.  Oh, and bean counter.

 

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Posted by grizlump9 on Monday, March 1, 2010 10:12 PM

 vell, you zee, dis ist a problem dat hass existed zince railroads were first invented.  it hass caused much consternazion amongst de orichinal railroad designers und enchineerz.   avter mutch conziderazion dey dezided dat dey shouldt build der railroads point to point und not in a zirkle.  dey make more money dat vay too.

und dat ist dat.

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Monday, March 1, 2010 11:47 PM

 I'm happy as long as my trains are running in a horizontal position and not a vertical plunge towards the deck. I think maybe you need to install a reversing loop.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 2:32 AM

My trains run either up or down, depending on what the timetable and that particular schedule is supposed to be doing.  While my basic track layout is a folded dogbone, one side is hidden in the netherworld (the 99+% of Japan I don't model) and trains run both ways on visible track.

Of course, nothing simply orbits unless I'm just running a couple of trains to entertain mundane visitors.  Normal operation calls for a train to leave staging, do its thing on the visible portion of the railroad and proceed to the other end - another (different) staging area.  Trains with locomotives get turned end for end in the Netherworld, so catenary motors will reappear at the tunnel portal that has (virtual) overhead wire, while steam locos stay where the tunnels are shorter and the wire hasn't been hung yet.  Diesels can run through - some do, some don't.  (My main station is an engine change point.)

What's with, "Up and down?"  Up is toward Tokyo, no matter how circuitous the route might be.  Down is away from Tokyo.  On my road, steam locos proceeding down have to climb a major grade - go figure!

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Posted by jwhitten on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 6:30 AM

BATMAN
My question is why does my brain care what direction my trains travel in and do you always run your trains in the same direction? Are you a clockwise or anticlockwise kinda guy???

 

 

No worries Mate, the answer to your dilema is simple-- you were an Aussie in a former life, and now you're pining for the land down' under. Maybe if you sprinkled some great white sharks and man-eating crocodiles around it would all come back to you? Or maybe licked a toad or two and went walkabout for a while... whatever works.

 

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 7:00 AM

I'm bi-directional.  I hope the neighbors don't find out.

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Posted by Packer on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 7:27 AM

Frued has nothing on this....

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 7:54 AM

 

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 7:57 AM

wjstix

 

You plead the 5th, right?Wink

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 8:03 AM

I would bet if you went thru pictures in ads and such of boys operating a Lionel train set, the vast majority of the time they're operating counter-clockwise. I suspect is has something to do with the fact that when running an oval of track on a train that way, the engineer's side of the cab is closest to you when the train is closest to you. I wonder if in say Hornby ads in the UK you'd find trains running clockwise??

I know the Lionel layout I had as a teen was normally run counter-clockwise, although I did have to sometimes change direction because of one spur track that was a facing point, and the layout didn't have a run-around track. The layout was a twice-around, but with a cutoff so you could just run around the outside loop.

But my last layouts over the last 20 years or so have all been some variation of a point-to-loop so trains go both directions.

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Posted by jwhitten on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 8:30 AM

wjstix

I suspect is has something to do with the fact that when running an oval of track on a train that way, the engineer's side of the cab is closest to you when the train is closest to you. I wonder if in say Hornby ads in the UK you'd find trains running clockwise??

 

 

That's a good thought except for I always sat *inside* the loop! Big Smile

 

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Posted by last mountain & eastern hogger on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:10 AM

SteamFreak

 In the northern hemisphere it's clockwise. Down Under trains prefer running counter-clockwise. Wink

 

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How novel,  a train layout in a toilet.............. LOL.

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Posted by dgwinup on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 11:36 AM

jwhitten

That's a good thought except for I always sat *inside* the loop! Big Smile

John

That could explain some of the problems a few of us have!  LOL

Or maybe some people are just left "outside" the loop.  ROFL

I crack me up............

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