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Hedge fund hotshot Robert Mercer files lawsuit over $2M model train, accusing builder of overcharge

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Posted by Packers#1 on Thursday, April 2, 2009 5:14 PM

 Lordy, 2.7 million!!!!! of course, the layout is half a basketball court and museum quality. The problem is the hedge fund guy will most likely win.

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Posted by ereimer on Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:57 PM

 my mind boggles at spending $700,000 on a layout . or $2.7 million . or having half a basketball court to build it in .

and why would it matter if it was done in time for his daughter's wedding ? is she a model railroader too ? were they having the reception in the layout room ?

and what did the guy do with the other half of the basketball court ?

 there are too many unanswered questions in this story

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Posted by selector on Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:51 PM

With a hedge fund fella, it's not personal, it's business!! Whistling

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Posted by loathar on Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:06 PM

modelmaker51 -Yep, and consider the crew is staying on Long Island which aint a cheap place to stay and do work. I would be curious to see the exact details for $2 million in over runs though. It's not often a project exceeds it's estimate by over 200%. It's not like we're talking about $10k going up to $30k.

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Posted by Railphotog on Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:04 PM

I know I hate it when that happens!  Cool

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:02 PM

And I thought I had overpaid for my Z8 from Division Point.  Seems like a bargain now.

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Posted by modelmaker51 on Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:53 PM

The 2 mil for a 1/2 basket court size - museum quality layout does not sound unreasonable to me having worked for a major layout builder myself. On locatiion costs can build up real fast depending on the size of the crew. On average our layouts took 5 days, 6 to 10 crew. The costs would be delivery, (depending on size, multiple tractor trailers), motels, per diem (food and personal), labor (usually time and half and double time on sundays when on location). It sounds like in this case the on location time was a lot longer due to a deadline they had to meet. Building a large layout can take from 3 months to a year or more depending on size and level of detail, museum quality can take a long time. Our in-house crews tended to be about 10 to12 full-time  professional crafts people, including carpenters (cabinet grade), licensed electricians, scenic artists (many from theater and film industries), model builders and a couple of advanced model railroaders for the strickly mr stuff. The $700 000 would barely cover materials for that size layout.

I think it's a case of sour grapes he must of lost his money in the stock market plunge and is trying to get out of paying..

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:41 PM

 I find it hard to believe that this guy shelled out $2.7M and then decided he wasn't getting his money's worth.  Sounds more like he is trying to stiff Rail Dreams for his changing his requirements after the work was underway. Given the 10's and 100's of millions these guys have gotten away with, I'm surprised he even noticed a measly $2.7M.

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Posted by Midnight Railroader on Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:40 PM

 Now, see, if he'd built the thing himself, he wouldn't be dealing with this at all.

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Hedge fund hotshot Robert Mercer files lawsuit over $2M model train, accusing builder of overcharge
Posted by Newyorkcentralfan on Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:16 PM

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