Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Painting and Assembling a Walthers Merchants Row kit - some things I've learned

86757 views
31 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    August 2021
  • From: High Point, NC
  • 8 posts
Posted by Flagman515 on Friday, December 24, 2021 11:42 AM

I have used the City Classics Window Dressing and they look 

very nice. Venetian blinds add a touch of old school looks to

your buildings.

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • 19 posts
Posted by lizzard_45 on Monday, August 17, 2015 4:38 PM
Great information. Currently working on Merchant's Row III.
  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Baltimore, MD
  • 1,726 posts
Posted by CSX_road_slug on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:17 PM

DJO
G Paine

One thing I forgot to mention in my prior post. If you plan to light the building, before you paint anything, paint the interior with flat black, I use Rustoleum in a spray can). Follow with flat white (I use Rustoleum white primer). Before spraying any exterior colors, mask off all the windows on the inside to keep overspray off the white walls.

why do you need the white?

 

The black is to prevent any inside light from shining thru the plastic walls (real brick is opaque).  Then you cover it with white [or any other light color] to brighten the interior and make the details [furniture etc.] more visible.  I skipped the white on mine because I didn't detail my interiors.

-Ken in Maryland  (B&O modeler, former CSX modeler)

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • 2,751 posts
Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:43 PM

 Outstanding piece of modeling. It says something about someone's ability as a modeler when they can make a simple kit like Merchants row look that good. I have to dig mind out and try it again I don't have the steady hands like I used to so painting mantels and sill ain't the easiest thing for me these days but again a fine fine job

Just my 2 cents worth, I spent the rest on trains. If you choked a Smurf what color would he turn?
  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: West Vancouver, Canada
  • 79 posts
Posted by alanprocter on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:43 PM

Hi Everyone:

Very useful thread.  You had asked for some photos - here are 2 of mine that were completed some time ago.  I have since added the shop signs on the outside and some more wall and window decals.

 I have since bought the Merchants Row 3 and assembled it with a minor kit bash.  The orientaion was not how I wanted it in order to fit into the target location.  I turned it from a left hand to a right hand orientaion.  To do this I had to adjust the corner tabs for glueing the walls and had to cut a piece off of the roof and install in 2 sections.  The wall and roof trim also had to be cut appropriately.  The model is finished now and looks great.  This particular model has separate windows so they can be painted before assembly.  My technique for adding mortar is to wipe with drywall mud at a cream consistency and wipe clean after a minute or two.  Then clean up around the windows etc with a tooothpick.  Seal with dullcoat.

 Alan

Alan P BC Rail Lives
DJO
  • Member since
    April 2009
  • 88 posts
Posted by DJO on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:57 AM
G Paine

One thing I forgot to mention in my prior post. If you plan to light the building, before you paint anything, paint the interior with flat black, I use Rustoleum in a spray can). Follow with flat white (I use Rustoleum white primer). Before spraying any exterior colors, mask off all the windows on the inside to keep overspray off the white walls.

CSX_road_slug
if only they could do some neon signs that say Coors... Whistling

Miniatronics tends to keep their signs generic to avoid licensing costs.

why do you need the white?
DJ Route of the Zephyr
  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Chamberlain, ME
  • 5,084 posts
Posted by G Paine on Wednesday, April 8, 2009 11:20 AM

I needed a couple of low relief buildings for Exchange St, a street near the backdrop, so I am working on a Merchants Row 1 kitbash. From a row of buildings 5" deep, I have made 2 buildings. The one nearest the backdrop is 1/2" deep and is made from the building row fronts. The other is 2" deep and is made from the building backs; it will have a sheet of plain styrene for the street side since it will not be visible.

I have completed them enough for a test fit:

This is an end view:

I still need to add some detail to the roof to represent the false fronts on the backside building; then on to paint, paint, paint. I have them set up to add lighting in the future.

George In Midcoast Maine, 'bout halfway up the Rockland branch 

  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Baltimore, MD
  • 1,726 posts
Posted by CSX_road_slug on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:24 PM

Thanks Doc,

I used Polly Scale acrylics for everything except the Soaking Pit facade (with the large blocks) - for that one I used "suede"-textured Latex paint.  I hand-brushed everything on, since the bricks obscure any brush streaks that might have been visible on large smooth surfaces.  

On larger flat surfaces like the cream-colored trim on the "for-sale-or-lease" storefront, I positioned the painted surface perfectly horizontal (i.e. level) and carefully dripped the paint onto it, until the entire surface was covered.  I made absolutely sure not to disturb the structure while the paint was drying.  Sometimes on recessed spaces, the paint would accumulate in the corners - whenever it did that, I waited for it to dry completely, then re-dripped just enough paint on to cover the thinly-coated area in the middle.

-Ken in Maryland  (B&O modeler, former CSX modeler)

  • Member since
    February 2009
  • 53 posts
Posted by 3cflvi on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 12:39 PM

Thanks for these signs. The Sinclair sign really brings back memories.

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: New Jersey, US
  • 379 posts
Posted by topcopdoc on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 11:40 AM
You really did a good job on the Merchant’s Row buildings. I have been using acrylics and airbrush on my structures.What paint did you use it really looks great? Doc

 

Pennsylvania Railroad The Standard Railroad of the World
  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Good ol' USA
  • 9,642 posts
Posted by AntonioFP45 on Wednesday, April 1, 2009 5:32 AM

Tomkat,

Many thanks to you for posting these ad and business signs!  I'm going to be modeling a 1960s theme and now see that so many of these signs will complement the scenery quite well.

I've never used the computer printer decal paper before.Confused  Is there a particular brand that is recommendable?  My printer is an HP Deskjet 841C, although I do have access to a laser printer.

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: ARCH CITY
  • 1,769 posts
Posted by tomkat-13 on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:07 PM

nw_fan

 Thank you for the signs, tomcat. Those are great

Ok here are some more!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I model MKT & CB&Q in Missouri. A MUST SEE LINK: Great photographs from glassplate negatives of St Louis 1914-1917!!!! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/kempland/glassplate.htm Boeing Employee RR Club-St Louis http://www.berrc-stl.com/
  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: West Vancouver, Canada
  • 79 posts
Posted by alanprocter on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:04 PM

I too have just started building the Walthers Merchants Row [I have both the 1 and 2 models].  I started with my usual technique of spray can painting the walls [masking the various businesses] and then painting the windows by hand with acrylic paints, a small brush and a steady hand.  They look OK from a distance but wouldn't stand close scrutiny.  One of the posts mentioned masking what they could and airbrushing.  I was a bit hesitant to do this for the windows since I thought this would be too fiddley.  However, I tried it using Tamiya masking tape.  I mounted the tape a little proud of the window edge [tweezers help here in placing] and then cut the corners with a sharp hobby knife and foulded the proud piece [about1/3 mm] over into the window opening.  Burnish down the edges with a sharp wood tool.  It actually didn't take that long.  Mask the rest of the wall of course.  After airbrushing [I use Scalecoat 1] - I was delighted with the result.  The transition lines were very sharp.  This is now my new technique and I will now experiment with blue painters tape [cheaper] and a spray can for the paint [no airbrush cleanup]. 

I would be interested in learn of other peoples' window painting techniques.  Also thanks for all of the great poster images.  I remember seeing an MR article recently that described a method of pasting "distressed" paper images onto the brick walls with white glue.

 Alan

Alan P BC Rail Lives
  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Franconia, NH
  • 3,130 posts
Posted by dstarr on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:24 AM

Nice pictures, excellent modeling.  

If you light buildings, you want to paint the interior to prevent the plastic walls and roof from glowing in the dark.  You also want to caulk any light leaks at  the joints.  Some recommend black paint, but it soaks up a lot of the light.  I use lighter colors.  If fully detailed interiors seem a bit too much, at least install floors in multi story buildings.  The view in the windows is much improved if you see a floor where it's supposed to be rather than a yawing gap right down to the basement.  They make a thin copper sticky tape which makes wiring interior lights much easier.  The tape sticks to the walls and stays out of sight and you can solder to it. 

   220 grit silicon carbide sandpaper makes good looking roofing material for flat city roofs. It's black and puts some texture into your simulated tar and gravel roofs.

 

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: Dayton, OH
  • 124 posts
Posted by nw_fan on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:42 PM

 Thank you for the signs, tomcat. Those are great!

Precision Transportation
  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: Richmond, Texas
  • 393 posts
Posted by RDG1519 on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:40 PM

Thanks for posting. The alternative colors on the front could also be typical of painted brick very popular in the 60's in city row homes. The mortar joints would also be painted. The treatment of the rear is also great. I had not thought of "white washing"  like you have. great job!

Chris

Great grandson of John Kiefer, Engineman Philadelphia and Reading Railroad, 1893 to 1932
  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: ARCH CITY
  • 1,769 posts
Posted by tomkat-13 on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:19 PM

More Signs

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I model MKT & CB&Q in Missouri. A MUST SEE LINK: Great photographs from glassplate negatives of St Louis 1914-1917!!!! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/kempland/glassplate.htm Boeing Employee RR Club-St Louis http://www.berrc-stl.com/
  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: ARCH CITY
  • 1,769 posts
Posted by tomkat-13 on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:10 PM

nw_fan

tomkat-13, thanks for posting the ads. I'd really appreciate it if you posted any more you care to share. Those are very good!

Here are some more.......just copy & paste!

 

I model MKT & CB&Q in Missouri. A MUST SEE LINK: Great photographs from glassplate negatives of St Louis 1914-1917!!!! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/kempland/glassplate.htm Boeing Employee RR Club-St Louis http://www.berrc-stl.com/
  • Member since
    February 2009
  • 53 posts
Posted by 3cflvi on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:54 PM

Great suggestions. I actually never read the sheet to begin with. But your ideas are real helpful, especially #8.

  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: ARCH CITY
  • 1,769 posts
Posted by tomkat-13 on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:54 PM

CSX_road_slug

Tom Kat, I might redo some of my window signs using your method. Black inkjet printer ink seems to develop cracks when it dries on decal paper, as you might have noticed from some of my closeups; glossy photo paper might solve that problem.  BTW- do you know if there are any online sign collections for the 1990's that are similar to those ones you posted for the 50's?

I get most of my signs off ebay: Go to..... categories- collectables-avertising then put "sign" into the search. Then open the auctions that have the signs you want then copy & paste to a MS Publisher, MS Word, MS PAINT or other desktop that you can resize to your scale. I also search "decal", "sticker", "patch", "logo" ect

You also can find road signs, background buildings ect.

 

 

 

 

I model MKT & CB&Q in Missouri. A MUST SEE LINK: Great photographs from glassplate negatives of St Louis 1914-1917!!!! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/kempland/glassplate.htm Boeing Employee RR Club-St Louis http://www.berrc-stl.com/
  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: Chamberlain, ME
  • 5,084 posts
Posted by G Paine on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:45 AM

One thing I forgot to mention in my prior post. If you plan to light the building, before you paint anything, paint the interior with flat black, I use Rustoleum in a spray can). Follow with flat white (I use Rustoleum white primer). Before spraying any exterior colors, mask off all the windows on the inside to keep overspray off the white walls.

CSX_road_slug
if only they could do some neon signs that say Coors... Whistling

Miniatronics tends to keep their signs generic to avoid licensing costs.

George In Midcoast Maine, 'bout halfway up the Rockland branch 

  • Member since
    August 2008
  • From: Kannapolis North Carolina
  • 86 posts
Posted by joe27 on Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:38 PM

http://www.cgtextures.com/

This site has all sorts of items that can be used for floors, windows, roofing

I have used them with great results

Joe

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: Dayton, OH
  • 124 posts
Posted by nw_fan on Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:02 PM

tomkat-13, thanks for posting the ads. I'd really appreciate it if you posted any more you care to share. Those are very good!

Precision Transportation
  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Good ol' USA
  • 9,642 posts
Posted by AntonioFP45 on Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:20 PM

 As long as we're at this point, does anyone remember the thread in which a modeler posted links or photos showing a wide variety of curtains and drapes in a nice array of colors that could be used for HO scale buildings?

I had downloaded and saved those pictures, however, but them lost them when one a portion of my computer's files were wiped out last year.

Shy 

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


  • Member since
    June 2006
  • From: Baltimore, MD
  • 1,726 posts
Posted by CSX_road_slug on Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:12 PM

Hey guys, thank you all for replying - glad you found it useful!

George, looks like I'll have to get me one of those PIZZA neon signs - that would really complete my pizza shop!  Now about my taverns, if only they could do some neon signs that say Coors... Whistling

Loathar - I guess it really doesn't make a difference whether we paint the brick or windows first, but the guy who gave me that piece of advice was pretty insistent about it and he's built up a few entire HO scale city blocks so I assumed he knew what he was talking about...

Tom Kat, I might redo some of my window signs using your method. Black inkjet printer ink seems to develop cracks when it dries on decal paper, as you might have noticed from some of my closeups; glossy photo paper might solve that problem.  BTW- do you know if there are any online sign collections for the 1990's that are similar to those ones you posted for the 50's?

-Ken in Maryland  (B&O modeler, former CSX modeler)

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Kentucky
  • 10,660 posts
Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:57 PM

Ken L .... Great thread, and congrats on your outstanding work!

Tomkat ...thanks for posting signs.

GARRY

HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR

EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU

  • Member since
    January 2005
  • From: ARCH CITY
  • 1,769 posts
Posted by tomkat-13 on Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:09 PM

loathar

Thanks for posting. That's pretty much the same way I do mine except I paint my brick first and then do my windows and trim. I mask off what I can and airbrush. Paint the rest by hand.

I like to paint the brick first & install the windows last. For signs I like to copy & paste signs I find on line, resize to my scale, print on photo paper for glossy metal signs, or cardstock. Here are some I found.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 Also you can find background buildings.

 

I model MKT & CB&Q in Missouri. A MUST SEE LINK: Great photographs from glassplate negatives of St Louis 1914-1917!!!! http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/kempland/glassplate.htm Boeing Employee RR Club-St Louis http://www.berrc-stl.com/
  • Member since
    December 2003
  • From: Good ol' USA
  • 9,642 posts
Posted by AntonioFP45 on Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:01 PM

Excellent thread!

I will be purchasing some of the Walthers DPM and Cornerstone kits soon and will definetly refer to this thread.  I have the Walthers Car Shop kit, which I'm going to convert into a diesel shop on my new layot.  The tips on the brick coloring and mortar effects will come in handy.  Cool

 

 

 

"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"

 


  • Member since
    August 2004
  • From: Amish country Tenn.
  • 10,027 posts
Posted by loathar on Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:36 PM

Thanks for posting. That's pretty much the same way I do mine except I paint my brick first and then do my windows and trim. I mask off what I can and airbrush. Paint the rest by hand.
City Classics has some real nice window treatments that are printed on plastic. Much easier than printing out drapes and blinds on the computer.

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!