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Steam vs Deseil

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Steam vs Deseil
Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:15 AM
I prefer deseil, I just like the deseil fuel smell, the loud nosie, and the raw power of the Deseil Locomotives. Also I like the colorful paint sceams they put on the locomotives.[:D]

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Posted by Fergmiester on Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:46 AM
I love steam for the simple reason you can see all the moving parts. To me it's poetry in motion and adds to scene. Diesels to me look too much like the boxcars they pull. Steam engines are very diversified and have personality[:D]

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:54 AM
Steam because...???...Hmmmmm, just because.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:06 AM
Let's look at both sides

Steam Engines Emplyed more people.

-You needed at least 3 crew ememers, Conductor, Fireman, Engineer even a Breakman
- When steam engines were double or Tripple Headrs, rarely, you would need 2 X 4, or 3 X 4 Crews, thus one Train could possibly have a crew of 8 - 16 people.


Dieasel Engines are all colaberated by Computer

Notch 5 is the same in a GE, or an EMD, Baldwain or an ALCO.

you don't need crews to run the second engine, or the third one... etc.

So.. i don't know... put me down for both Equally.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:42 AM
Diesel's are great, but my heart is with steam. I just love the whistle, the cough of the exhaust, the moving parts, the steam escaping, etc. They were some sight to see, rather they were a masive 4-8-8-4 or a 2-8-0, booming along at 80 mph or yard creaping, they built America.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:44 AM
I was a kid at the end of the steam era and I used to love watching those big locos belching smoke and steam. You just knew they were alive and very powerful, I don't get the same feeling from diesels.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:14 PM
deasil becuase i like the time period of 1970 to 1980
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Posted by Roadtrp on Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:19 PM
I prefer diesel since that is what actually exists now. When I was a kid my dad always insisted on steam locomotives for my layout. I always felt kind of "out of it" and wanted to run the type of trains I saw and rode on.

So know that I'm the adult and get to choose, I'm running the diesels I wanted to run when I was a kid!
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:58 PM
I think my problem is that I have no nostalgic connection to steam. Even though I am 42, I was born after the railroads had all converted to diesel. Steam is interesting, but not special to me. However I was truly impressed when I saw 3985 up close!

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:41 PM
I am old enough to have seen the Western Maryland steam locomotives running in my town but I just don't recall them. The F7 units I recall seeing many of. So for this reason I model both steam and diesel in the 50-60s era. Before my dad passed away a couple years ago he said that I use to like watching the steam locomotives.
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Posted by PistolPete on Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:47 PM
I voted for diesel because that is what I model, but if I had the space and the money I may have gone with steam[:)]
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Posted by tomwatkins on Sunday, February 22, 2004 7:00 PM
I model late steam and early diesel and like them both. If I had to choose I'd choose steam. Everything is exposed and you can see them work. They smoke, they belch steam and they make wonderful noises.
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Posted by timthechef on Sunday, February 22, 2004 8:40 PM
I run steam exclusively. I'm not old enough to have seen the steam engines working the mainline but I have allways been fasinated with steam. I have seen some steam excursion trains running and there's just nothing like watching a steam engine pulling a train down the track, the smoke the steam, it just seems like it's alive! I get excited just thinking about it!
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Posted by CP5415 on Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:10 PM
After riding in an open vestibule last June behind 2816, nothing compares to steam in my opinion.
It's a breathing, live piece of man-made machinery.
From the moving parts to the aroma of the exhaust.
My heart is set on steam, any day of the week.

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Posted by AggroJones on Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:00 PM
As for 1: 1 models, steam rules. Diesels don't have as much character as steam does. All stink pots look the same. Union Pacific's SD40-2 appears basically the same as Burlington Northern's. But with steam everthing has its own special look. Think about how many different shaped 4-8-4s there are. All unique.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 23, 2004 5:56 AM
I chose diesel because all steam engines are black but diesels are usually more colorful.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 23, 2004 5:59 AM
Being a nostalgia freak I'd love to see steamers make a come back. [:D]
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Posted by ClinchValleySD40 on Monday, February 23, 2004 8:14 AM
First and second generation EMD.
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Posted by orsonroy on Monday, February 23, 2004 8:30 AM
Steam all the way. I've got a couple of diesel switchers floating around on my layout, since I'm a proto modeler and the real roads had 'em, but steam rules my mainlines.

Diesels are impersonal boxes with engines in them. Steam was a living, breathing beast that has a LOT more character to it. I'll drive 400 miles to ride a steam fantrip, but not 20 miles to watch modern diesels fly by all day.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 23, 2004 2:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dougal

I chose diesel because all steam engines are black but diesels are usually more colorful.
Not all of them, dougal. Just looks at SP's GS4 Daylight 4-8-4's, or Southerns green cresents, or the UP's Grayhound scheme on their FEF's and Challengers, or the ATSF Blue Goose, there's TONS of colored steam.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 23, 2004 2:55 PM
I'm only 17, so I was born long after the railroads stopped using steam. I still would have to say that I prefer steam (although I love diesel, too, especially first generation). There's just something so incredible about a steam engine. A steam locomotive is almost a living creature and there's something magical about them. It's kind of hard to describe, but the steam fans will know what I'm talking about!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 23, 2004 4:40 PM
hey Big_Boy_4005 where is that big boy and does it still operate

oh yeah STEAM ALL THE WAY BABY
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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, February 23, 2004 6:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

There's just something so incredible about a steam engine. A steam locomotive is almost a living creature and there's something magical about them. It's kind of hard to describe, but the steam fans will know what I'm talking about!


Indeed. Each steam engine has like its own personality. They are so alive. Breathing, groaning, hissing, grunting machines. [^]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 23, 2004 6:58 PM
Diesel all the way. The amout of power in a realativly compact space is amazing from an engineering stand point. Also is the things my sons see and will remember.

Also I used to work for a company that overhauled turbochargers for EMD, Alco and GE locomotives.

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Posted by AggroJones on Monday, February 23, 2004 10:40 PM
Incredible! I can't believe diesel is neck-n-neck with steam in this poll. [:0] I thought steamers would surely win!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 23, 2004 10:54 PM
I have a fond liking to steam but grew up on deisel. I model deisel locomotives would not model anything else.Steam is good ,but Desil is better.
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Posted by douginut on Monday, February 23, 2004 11:55 PM
Personal Preference is Electric, The Milwaukee Road, New Haven, and a host of others
Diesels won out mostly because of economics. They do on my pike as they did in most cases in real life.


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Posted by AggroJones on Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:38 PM
Bump

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Posted by Fergmiester on Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

Bump


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:54 PM
This is such a subjective topic. You may like one, the other or both. One does not "RULE" over the other in reality, but certainly may in your heart. What ever turns your crank, or should that be; spins your turbo, MAN!

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