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Posted by selector on Monday, April 7, 2008 8:35 PM

Apparently not, Ken.  Apparently not.  Let's look forward, with hope, to the next one.  I will take some confidence that perhaps Bergie's message found a home.

This one is officially over.

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Posted by SD60M on Monday, April 7, 2008 8:18 PM
 Ocyt3006 wrote:
I'm new to the Forum and new to the Weekend PhotoFun things, but all this stuff has left me a little confused.  I-5 New Haven posted a link to a video he made and then seemed tick that no one commented about it.  When someone did respond to his request for comments and said they didn't like it and thought it was bad, everyone else gave this guy jktrains a hard time for giving a I-5 what he wanted.  Now I'm reading the rest of the posts and see where TrainManTy is telling Bapou that his scenery needs to be improved and davidmbedard is criticizing SD60M for posting too small a picture yet that seems to be OK.  So being new at both the forum and MRRing I'm confused as to what the purpose of this Weekend Photo Fun is all about.
Now now no need to be confused, sometimes there are arguments in this forum but it does serve the purpose it implies, Showing photos of what we have gotten done since our last visit whether it be new loco's(like me)! Or a complete layout. We do have fun seeing each others pic's or vid's dispite some occasional arguments. I dont mind that David said my pic was too small, actually im glad he pointed it out! I dont want people to have to use a telescope to see my pics! I also welcome you to the forum and hope that you come to like it as much as we have!
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Posted by rolleiman on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:52 PM
 loathar wrote:
 mikelhh wrote:

 A couple of shots of my Atlas RS11 indoors and out.

 

 

 

 

 Mike 

No need to dig back in old WPF threads. THIS is what it's all about right here!Bow [bow]

It also shows what can be done with proper lighting where the source is large enough (the sun), in a single spot. and not against a flat bacdrop (something that's always bugged me in model RR photos). I'm not criticizing either photo, just noting how much better the outdoor one looks. Shame we (most of us anyway) cannot build our layouts outdoors and use the real sky for a full time backdrop.

I agree with Lothar, Mike, Well Done!! 

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Posted by loathar on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:40 PM
 mikelhh wrote:

 A couple of shots of my Atlas RS11 indoors and out.

 

 

 

 

 Mike 

No need to dig back in old WPF threads. THIS is what it's all about right here!Bow [bow]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:32 PM

 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
 New Haven I-5 wrote:
 New Haven I-5 wrote:
http://s257.photobucket.com/albums/hh201/SuperChieff/?action=view&current=NewPics015.flv A video of my 2 Bachmann Berks before I installed sound.
No comments on my first video???
I liked it. Next time try not to move the camera so much.Smile [:)]

 

Im new here and I am also confused by this above.  This guy post some of the worst photos and his modeling skills are far from even decent yet he is trying to give advice to someone else?  That is so strange to me and kinda crazy.  There is also another guy here who I swear is this same guy as the quoted above JW.  Their pictures look very similar and their layouts look so much alike.  So weird.

JK gave honest opinion as this guy asked for and when he does people get onto to him for it.  he was just honest and it was NOT mean.  The guy asked for it and he just TOLD THE TRUTH.  What is up with this forum?  Sensoring the truth or opinions that are not "typical".  What a strange forum.

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Posted by NeO6874 on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:27 PM

OK, here's the simple rundown

WPF is supposed to be rather lighthearted/nice thread for the past weeks projects. Essentially think of it as a show and tell for recent developments.  This is in contrast to other threads, such as "lookie my new <fill-in-the-blank> that I built" in which people are looking for more critical comments.

The thing with I-5 was that he posted the link and then started asking for comments (people don't always comment specific people, ususally a "great job everyone" type thing). jktrains bit, and probably a little too hard on that request...

Now, the constructive criticism type comments (use a bigger pic/higher res/whatever) are generally "allowed" and civil -- eg "great couple of shots, but you'll get better ones with a higher f-stop" or something similar. 

 

hope this helped clear some things up a bit Smile [:)] 

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Posted by Kenfolk on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:27 PM

We'd all have more Weekend Photo Fun and more photos and videos to view if some people remembered the topic of the thread. I for one am about to the point of ignoring WPF (and maybe the forums here altogether) if this constant nitpicking, insulting, and berating doesn't stop. Its  a shame the moderators have to keep riding herd on here. I had been optimistic things would improve, but I'm about ready to throw in the towel. 

The maturity level of some of the younger members of the forum is surely much greater than some of the "older". This could be called the "GOM forum" --Grumpy Old Men!

Grow up, people! Can't we get through ONE weekend without this stuff?

 

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Posted by selector on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:22 PM

I suggest, so that this doesn't get into areas we don't want to explore, that you do a search under "Weekend Photo Fun", and read the early ones in February, plus the one from two weeks ago.  Between them, you should get a good appreciation for what WPF is meant to be, and what a very few would love for it to be.

Asking someone to increase the size of an image is just a request to see more.  It is not a criticism.  Telling someone that they got most of what they posted wrong, and not doing it constructively, is not what this thread is about. 

I hope that helps.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:16 PM
I'm new to the Forum and new to the Weekend PhotoFun things, but all this stuff has left me a little confused.  I-5 New Haven posted a link to a video he made and then seemed tick that no one commented about it.  When someone did respond to his request for comments and said they didn't like it and thought it was bad, everyone else gave this guy jktrains a hard time for giving a I-5 what he wanted.  Now I'm reading the rest of the posts and see where TrainManTy is telling Bapou that his scenery needs to be improved and davidmbedard is criticizing SD60M for posting too small a picture yet that seems to be OK.  So being new at both the forum and MRRing I'm confused as to what the purpose of this Weekend Photo Fun is all about.
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Posted by mikelhh on Monday, April 7, 2008 5:58 PM

 A couple of shots of my Atlas RS11 indoors and out.

 

 

 

 

 Mike 

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Posted by saronaterry on Monday, April 7, 2008 5:32 PM

Bergie, thanks.

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Posted by SD60M on Monday, April 7, 2008 5:25 PM
 davidmbedard wrote:
 SD60M wrote:

Another new loco to the fleet an IC SD40 leads an SD45 and F45 on an empty ore train.

Got a bigger pic?

David B

Sorry about that! I didnt know that webshots had nothing but thumbnail pics.

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Posted by SD60M on Monday, April 7, 2008 5:04 PM

Another new loco to the fleet an IC SD40 leads an SD45 and F45 on an empty ore train.

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Posted by wm3798 on Monday, April 7, 2008 3:47 PM

An old Reading Trainmaster is shined up and lending a hand as a westbound Alpha Jet rolls through Williamsport.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 7, 2008 3:38 PM

Bapou: You might want to blend in that base on the building with some ground cover.

I got a new loco at the show in Shirley, MA yesterday. Figured out how to reprogram it to the correct adress with some help by the guys over on Electronics and DCC, (got an error message, eventually fixed it with a resistor on the programming track so the Zephyr would know it was there.

 

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Posted by Bapou on Monday, April 7, 2008 3:23 PM

 shayfan84325 wrote:
Considering all the posts on this Photo-fun thread, there seems to be a case of photo-anemia.   How about posting some model railroad pictures; isn't that the reason we all click on this thread?

Well I don't have anything new so here is an old photo.

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Critiscism is accepted! Just not about the backround... (the photo was taken on my workbench).

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Posted by shayfan84325 on Monday, April 7, 2008 3:19 PM
Considering all the posts on this Photo-fun thread, there seems to be a case of photo-anemia.   How about posting some model railroad pictures; isn't that the reason we all click on this thread?

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Posted by Ibflattop on Monday, April 7, 2008 3:15 PM
New Haven, I like your video. Well I like it cause it had NKP in it!!!!  Anything with a Berk or NKP is all right with me.  You are just starting out so there will be some flaws to improve on. Just tell the Idiots that give ya greef that its a Railfan trip or thats the Soceity has just rebuilt the engines and they are on a break in run. Well ya should of put a GP in behind the engines for that.         :-)      Kevin
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 7, 2008 3:03 PM
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

 ChessieRR wrote:

It seems like there's a certain element within model railroading where if you don't model "Conrail freight operations on July 6th, 1986 to within 1 minute accuracy", you're doing it all wrong.

To do Conrail exactly to the minute do you have to do everything 90 minutes late?Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

At 3 times the cost!Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Bapou on Monday, April 7, 2008 3:03 PM
 Dave Vollmer wrote:

 ChessieRR wrote:

It seems like there's a certain element within model railroading where if you don't model "Conrail freight operations on July 6th, 1986 to within 1 minute accuracy", you're doing it all wrong.

To do Conrail exactly to the minute do you have to do everything 90 minutes late?Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

OK Dave, that deserves a Bow [bow] and a Laugh [(-D]!

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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Monday, April 7, 2008 2:58 PM

 ChessieRR wrote:

It seems like there's a certain element within model railroading where if you don't model "Conrail freight operations on July 6th, 1986 to within 1 minute accuracy", you're doing it all wrong.

To do Conrail exactly to the minute do you have to do everything 90 minutes late?Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Bapou on Monday, April 7, 2008 2:46 PM
 ChessieRR wrote:
 Bergie wrote:

Just say that he could obtain better video quality by using a tripod. Don't say "the video is terrible." That's rude, and I'm not going to have your rudeness towards other members drag down the spirit of why we're all here. I don't want those types of comments to keep newcomers from posting because they're afraid you're going to open up with both guns blazing just because they "asked for it."

Bottom line: be tactful

Bergie,  thanks for that statement.  I've browsed these forums for the last year or so before getting up the courage to post.  It seems like there's a certain element within model railroading where if you don't model "Conrail freight operations on July 6th, 1986 to within 1 minute accuracy", you're doing it all wrong.  I'll be honest, I spent my life on trains, and now that I'm not on them every day, I like to sit back and just watch them roll by, whether in real life or on my layout.

I have a great time model railroading without nit-picking anyone. I run F40PHs alongside U34CHs which were retired in 1993. Most were since then scrapped, there might be 2 in existence no clue where. I model modern times but have no problem running these 2 locos together.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 7, 2008 2:00 PM
 Bergie wrote:

Just say that he could obtain better video quality by using a tripod. Don't say "the video is terrible." That's rude, and I'm not going to have your rudeness towards other members drag down the spirit of why we're all here. I don't want those types of comments to keep newcomers from posting because they're afraid you're going to open up with both guns blazing just because they "asked for it."

Bottom line: be tactful

Bergie,  thanks for that statement.  I've browsed these forums for the last year or so before getting up the courage to post.  It seems like there's a certain element within model railroading where if you don't model "Conrail freight operations on July 6th, 1986 to within 1 minute accuracy", you're doing it all wrong.  I'll be honest, I spent my life on trains, and now that I'm not on them every day, I like to sit back and just watch them roll by, whether in real life or on my layout.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, April 7, 2008 1:45 PM
 New Haven I-5 wrote:
 New Haven I-5 wrote:
http://s257.photobucket.com/albums/hh201/SuperChieff/?action=view&current=NewPics015.flv A video of my 2 Bachmann Berks before I installed sound.
No comments on my first video???
I liked it. Next time try not to move the camera so much.Smile [:)]

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, April 7, 2008 1:43 PM
Packers#1, check your PM's.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Monday, April 7, 2008 1:25 PM

Well said Berg (especially for a Bears fanSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]). I got gunned down a whole lot by jktrains, loathar, and a few others, and I'm still here. Now back on topic; I've done a little work.

An almost finished hill.

Some structures on TT

loco servicing

local switches

auto factory switches

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Posted by Bergie on Monday, April 7, 2008 1:03 PM
 jktrains wrote:

Obviously between the time he posted the link (12:53 pm) and the time he posted the second time asking for comments (10:01 pm) plenty of people viewed the thread and presumably watched the video.  None of them found it something they cared to commment on.  I-5's second post was one in which he went 'fishing' for compliments.  When you go fishing you never know what you'll catch! 

I-5: Post your pictures and links to videos, if people like them then they will respond accordingly.  If they don't like them then what you saw happen, no comments, will happen too.  But when you go asking for comments then be prepared for both the positive and the negative.

Jerry, I don't know what ever gave you the idea that you have the right to be rude to other members. Just because they ask for feedback doesn't mean you can leave your manners behind when replying.

Just say that he could obtain better video quality by using a tripod. Don't say "the video is terrible." That's rude, and I'm not going to have your rudeness towards other members drag down the spirit of why we're all here. I don't want those types of comments to keep newcomers from posting because they're afraid you're going to open up with both guns blazing just because they "asked for it."

Bottom line: be tactful

A good rule I've always used: if you wouldn't say it to the person face-to-face for fear of getting a bloody nose, don't say it via your keyboard. 

And as for the "Your passenger train is all wrong" portion of your message. Try to remember that everyone has their own idea of a scale world. Your strick 1/87th scale world isn't the same as someone else's. Everyone chooses a different level of prototypical operation... don't let yours give off the idea that some who is more casual is doing something wrong.

Bergie

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Posted by jwar on Monday, April 7, 2008 12:47 PM
 Brunton wrote:

Boy! Some people's kids!  Disapprove [V]

There are ways to let someone down without being unkind. Some folks either don't know how to do that or don't care to make the effort (in the case of the continually repeating offenders, I suspect the latter). There are also ways to give constructive criticism, rather than just be critical of the work of others just for the apparent fun of it. 

Tact and a bit of non-judgementalism is always a good idea. Thumbs Up [tup]



Ditto Brunton, Your reply Sir is a touch of class........ I bite my tongue untill it bleeds reading this type of negivitivey, and I for one am really getting tired of it....John
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Posted by Dave Vollmer on Monday, April 7, 2008 12:00 PM

Both for photos and for videos, a tripod can be one of the most important investments.  Good lighting is another plus.

For extra lighting in videos and photos, I take my flourescent desk lamp and mount it just out of view of the camera.

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