Modeling BNSF and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin
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Originally posted by Barent Foley [V][V][V][V] I spend 164 dollors for a Digitrax Zepher.Then I spend 50 dollars for a booster to program with''that they don't tell me I need''. What booster is this??? I am looking into buying the zypher myself and I want to make sure I have everything I need. Reply Edit Bikerdad Member sinceOctober 2003 From: Southwest US 438 posts Posted by Bikerdad on Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:15 AM Ntlange, Sound equipped Broadway Limited locomotives, and perhaps other QSI sound equipped locos, require higher power levels than NMRA standards in order to program. This only affects programming them, not running them, and AFAIK, it only is a problem with BLIs. I have a Digitrax Zephyr and have been able to program both my Digitrax equipped locomotives and Lenz equipped locos, all N scale, without the use of a booster. Grace and peace, BD Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:25 AM I program my BL locos all the time using the ops mode on the Zephyr. Also my Digitrax equiped locos. I have used a seperate track and got the power from the Zephyr. No need for a booster. Someone sold someone a $50.oo bill for goods. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:18 AM Definitely call Digitrax. They will ask you asto what you wired where, more to help you not repeat any mistake you might have made, and the are very good about honering their warrenty. You definitely do not need a booster with a Zephyr to program just decoders. On some, but not all, sound equipped locos, you might need a $25.00 PowerPax or similar. In the shop, I try programming sound units in Ops mode 1st. If it takes, fine. If not, I tie in the PowerPax. A booster add on to the Zephyr would only be needed for layout power. Examples would be trying to use one on a large layout, or small to medium layouts that have multiple operators with lots of locos running. However, for those types of situations, a dealer should be selling the customer a Empire Builder or Super Chief set, not a Zephyr. Jim Flynn Reply Edit jrbernier Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: SE Minnesota 6,847 posts Posted by jrbernier on Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:00 AM Let's get this booster issue flattened. What the poster is talking about is a 'programming' booster. Many of the systems with less than 5 amp capacity have trouble delivering enough power to the 'programming track' when one is attempting to program BLI/QSI sound decoders. These units do draw a lot of power when you place them on the track. The 'booster' is wired between the programming track output on the DCC system and the programming track. Even other engines like a P2K USRA 0-8-0 have had problems with programming due to all of the lights/resistors/whatever in the circuit. A friend had a P2K 0-8-0 that had the decoder get scrambled; attempts to re-program it on the programming track of a 5 amp Chief failed. I took the decoder out, attached it to my Loy's programming fixture and was able to reset it and re-program it. The Spectrum engines also have lots of capacitor/choke coils that sometimes interfere with normal attempts to program an engine, Jim Bernier Modeling BNSF and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:23 AM Definately call Digitrax and talk to their customer service dept. They are out of this world to work with. I own SEVERAL BLI's and have no problem programing them in "ops" mode with no booster, only a Digitrax Super Chief. In program mode on a program track, the track is dead until the commands come from the booster so by the time all of the capicitors are charged the command is lost to the decoder. By leaving it on the "main" and doing the programing in "ops" the capicitors are already charged. I can even change the "address" of the BLI loco in "ops" mode. Have a good day Bob Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:38 AM BD Thanx for the info. So I don't have to worry with my athearn blue box locos. Cool! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:14 PM I'd go with A. I have the same unit (minus the extra booster) and it's great. I've found it to be exactly what it should be - a beginners dcc that has plenty of room for expansion. I'm sure Digitrax will fix it. I'd email them. I did once, and they got back to me within a day with some very helpful ideas. Very good customer relations. Good luck Hal [:D][:D] Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 6:34 PM Go with A. Digitrax has a great tect support and they will help you with your issue. You do not need a booster unless you are powering a large layout. Sorry about your Zyphar frying like it did. Don't let this scare you away from Ditgitrax, Just talk your LHS (or) call Digitrax. Hope this helps:) TrainsRMe Reply Edit Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online Erik_Mag see all » Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up