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MY DIGITRAX JUST TOOK A DUMP!!!!!!!!!

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MY DIGITRAX JUST TOOK A DUMP!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:15 PM
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I spend 164 dollors for a Digitrax Zepher.Then I spend 50 dollars for a booster to program with''that they don't tell me I need''.Then 2 weeks later The thing starts smoking and has walking c's going across the screen.
Is it me or do I need a different dcc setup.
A-do I get Digitrax to fix it .
B-do I throw in the trash.
C-do I throw it in the trash and get A better dcc system.
Please help ?
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Posted by jrbernier on Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:23 PM
Try A - It is new and Digitrax does warranty their products......

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:24 PM
I'd say A - assuming you wired it exactly as in the instructions the problems aren't your fault, they're the manufacturers. Get in touch with them (I'd suggest calling them, as it's harder for them to dodge phone calls than emails). Ask for their advice - explain your problem and ask what they suggest, as nothing (certainly nothing that expensive) should fail within 2 weeks. You might decide you want to accept a refund and change systems - it's your call here, I like Lenz but that's personal preference, others like different systems. Hope this helps!
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Posted by tomwatkins on Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:50 PM
I'd suggest "A". I've had very few problems with my Digitrax system. Two in ten years, that I can remember. The first was while it was in warranty and they fixed under warranty. The second was last year and it cost $35.00 to get the command station repaired. They're a good company, they make a good product, but nobody's perfect.
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Posted by camarokid on Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:00 PM
You didn't by chance have two wires accidentally touch each other did you? Sometimes things don't work as they should no matter how fast short circuits are detected. Go with Plan A. They will do right by you or we all will hear about it here in due time.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:51 PM
Try A. The company will make it good. Why did you buy a booster to program the Zephyr? That certainly isn't necessary. You can program all locos right from the Zephyr.I have done ten of mine and I do not have a booster. Maybe wires got crossed. If you bought it from your LHS maybe they can help you get it figured out.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:53 PM
Try choice "A". I have a Zephyr and have had no problems. They should warrantee it okay.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:04 PM
Definitely A. ANd try just disconnecting the PowerPax, shorting out the output should not have done anything to the Zephyr - heck, you short the things out on purpose when you do the 'quarter test", it's DESIGNED to take that. The Powerpax, however, cautions you against shorting the unit out. Guess they didn;t build in any short protection. The only thing that should be connected tot he Powerpax input is the Program Track outputs of the Zephyr. And the only thing the PowerPax output should be connected to is a competely isolated programming track - a seperate strip of track NOT part of the laypout is the safest bet.

I also still contend, based on the three BLI (well, one's an Atlas, but it's the same QSI elecronics) locos I have, plus my Zephyr, that the PowerPax is NOT necessary.

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Posted by Bikerdad on Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:38 PM
One more vote for A, but I'd go to the vendor who sold you the booster and the Zephyr, assuming its the same one, and have them sort it out. If they won't, then go to Digitrax.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:37 PM
One more thing you may consider, is joining the digitrax user's group on yahoo. Some one there may an shed some light on your problem. I have a Chief system and have not had problems other than my own mistakes. I've had this system since 1999.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Barent Foley

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I spend 164 dollors for a Digitrax Zepher.Then I spend 50 dollars for a booster to program with''that they don't tell me I need''.

What booster is this??? I am looking into buying the zypher myself and I want to make sure I have everything I need.
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Posted by Bikerdad on Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:15 AM
Ntlange,

Sound equipped Broadway Limited locomotives, and perhaps other QSI sound equipped locos, require higher power levels than NMRA standards in order to program. This only affects programming them, not running them, and AFAIK, it only is a problem with BLIs. I have a Digitrax Zephyr and have been able to program both my Digitrax equipped locomotives and Lenz equipped locos, all N scale, without the use of a booster.

Grace and peace, BD
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:25 AM
I program my BL locos all the time using the ops mode on the Zephyr. Also my Digitrax equiped locos. I have used a seperate track and got the power from the Zephyr. No need for a booster. Someone sold someone a $50.oo bill for goods.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:18 AM
Definitely call Digitrax. They will ask you asto what you wired where, more to help you not repeat any mistake you might have made, and the are very good about honering their warrenty.

You definitely do not need a booster with a Zephyr to program just decoders. On some, but not all, sound equipped locos, you might need a $25.00 PowerPax or similar. In the shop, I try programming sound units in Ops mode 1st. If it takes, fine. If not, I tie in the PowerPax.

A booster add on to the Zephyr would only be needed for layout power. Examples would be trying to use one on a large layout, or small to medium layouts that have multiple operators with lots of locos running. However, for those types of situations, a dealer should be selling the customer a Empire Builder or Super Chief set, not a Zephyr.

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Posted by jrbernier on Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:00 AM
Let's get this booster issue flattened. What the poster is talking about is a 'programming' booster. Many of the systems with less than 5 amp capacity have trouble delivering enough power to the 'programming track' when one is attempting to program BLI/QSI sound decoders. These units do draw a lot of power when you place them on the track. The 'booster' is wired between the programming track output on the DCC system and the programming track.
Even other engines like a P2K USRA 0-8-0 have had problems with programming due to all of the lights/resistors/whatever in the circuit. A friend had a P2K 0-8-0 that had the decoder get scrambled; attempts to re-program it on the programming track of a 5 amp Chief failed. I took the decoder out, attached it to my Loy's programming fixture and was able to reset it and re-program it. The Spectrum engines also have lots of capacitor/choke coils that sometimes interfere with normal attempts to program an engine,

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:23 AM
Definately call Digitrax and talk to their customer service dept. They are out of this world to work with.

I own SEVERAL BLI's and have no problem programing them in "ops" mode with no booster, only a Digitrax Super Chief. In program mode on a program track, the track is dead until the commands come from the booster so by the time all of the capicitors are charged the command is lost to the decoder. By leaving it on the "main" and doing the programing in "ops" the capicitors are already charged. I can even change the "address" of the BLI loco in "ops" mode.

Have a good day
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:38 AM
BD
Thanx for the info. So I don't have to worry with my athearn blue box locos. Cool!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:14 PM
I'd go with A. I have the same unit (minus the extra booster) and it's great. I've found it to be exactly what it should be - a beginners dcc that has plenty of room for expansion. I'm sure Digitrax will fix it. I'd email them. I did once, and they got back to me within a day with some very helpful ideas. Very good customer relations. Good luck

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 6:34 PM
Go with A. Digitrax has a great tect support and they will help you with your issue. You do not need a booster unless you are powering a large layout.
Sorry about your Zyphar frying like it did. Don't let this scare you away from Ditgitrax, Just talk your LHS (or) call Digitrax. Hope this helps:)
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