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Lokprogrammer fine on Windows 10, not liking Windows 11

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Posted by wrench567 on Thursday, June 15, 2023 10:14 AM

  The latest update to win10 and all of win11 will not let you run apps(used to be called programs.) From third parties. Unless it comes from the Windows store or pre loaded on the computer. Just select run as administrator and it lets win know you take full responsibility if something happens.

  I found this out when one of the apps I use for adjusting the gyros on my RC helicopters stopped working. The day before the update worked fine. The netbook updated overnight and the next day the app stopped working.

  After you select RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR, you may get a couple warnings. Just okay them and the Lokprogrammer should work as before.

        Pete.

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Posted by rrebell on Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:20 AM

Could be basic computer stuff that most people don't seem to know anymore. When you deleat a program it can take a long time for it to be overwritten if you don't add a lot of stuff all the time. What happens is you load a new version of a program and the computer picks up code from old program that has not been overwritten yet and thinks it is part of new program. This used to be a real problem for people but not so much anymore but base code on this program could be very old computer wize.      PS ignore this if this was a fresh instillatation and you didn't sync with old computer.

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Posted by wrench567 on Wednesday, June 14, 2023 11:36 PM

 Can you right click on the programmer icon and select Run as administrator? That's what I had to do when my netbook was upgraded to 10.

    Pete

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, June 14, 2023 11:24 PM

I've been following the Loksound-at-groups.io threads for a while now. Out of curioscity I searched 'Windows 11' there and came up with a few threads concerning the Lokprogrammer and Win11. There is also a downloadable driver there that is suggested for Win11 Arm USB/Serial setups.

I'd suggest looking into this route and if you don't see an immediate solution then post a question there. I'd give a direct link but the MR folks, understandably, prefer not to link to other forums.

If your new computer has a Windows Arm processor you might need a different USB cable or some kind of adapter. I can't say for sure as I'm still on the vintage Win 10.

https://www.androidauthority.com/windows-on-arm-explained-3100713/

 Matt Herman, the North America ESU tech rep hasn't been replaced as far as I know leaving a large void in ESU support.

Good luck, Ed

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Posted by 5150WS6 on Wednesday, June 14, 2023 8:42 PM

I've got an email into them. They just seem to take so long to respond.....but I bet you're right. Its something silly I'm not thinking Of or missing and should be turning off so it's not causing the issue. 

Hopefully they get back to me quickly. I'll post the response here for others. 

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, June 14, 2023 8:22 PM

Could it be that there are hardware-security settings that are (quietly) restricting communication with the older hardware?  I have utterly no experience with the specialized hardware that 11 requires to run, or what sort of 'protection' it implements on traffic from the USB ports.

I mention this because Google has silently implemented login blocking from some older gmail clients -- they claim there is some kind of 'one-time password' service that you can use with these, but I can't get it past the account information to be able to enter their damn password.  This acts like the kind of 'security' Alan Kay et al. used to talk about: if you can't even get to the credentials entry, your system will remain quite 'secure'...

I'd contact ESU support about this -- they will likely have encountered any systemic issue with Win11 and may have definitive advice, or a workaround.

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Lokprogrammer fine on Windows 10, not liking Windows 11
Posted by 5150WS6 on Wednesday, June 14, 2023 7:41 PM

Had my prgrammer for years. Love it. But I had to upgrade my old pc which had windows 10 and the programmer worked perfectly on. Now I'm trying to get the programmer to get recognized in Windows 11 on the laptop.

I am going insane. I downloaded the latest lokprogrammer software from ESU. Installed no issue. Started with the stock USB drivers. Wouldn't recognize the programmer. Then downloaded the drivers from ESU's site. Still won't recognize the programmer. Then searched the forums and found a third party serial->USB set of drivers. Installed and still won't recognize the programmer.

I've tried it all. In each of those steps I've done drivers, reboot and tried with the programmer unplugged. Then tried installing the drivers with the programmer plugged in. No dice. I've rebooted about 19 times, tried all the drivers I can try.

I'm also doing the plugging in right. Close the program, plug in the programmer then open the programmer. Just for giggles I tried to open the program and then plug the programmer in. Still nothing on either set up.

I'm frustrated and just want to enjoy some programming time and I love ESU......but this is insanely frustrating.

Any input from anyone? I never should have upgraded my pc and I'd be fine but noooooooo! LOL


Mike

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