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Posted by NittanyLion on Thursday, August 17, 2023 12:03 PM

There's no shortage of places a locomotive gets dumped off at quitting time on Friday afternoon and no one will come looking for it until Monday morning. Plenty of time to work.

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, August 17, 2023 10:15 AM

wjstix
More logical, given that this happened about the same time CSX debuted their Chessie System heritage unit, is that CSX used this engine as a test. They painted the nose in the heritage scheme, then decided to go the other way and paint one with the nose CSX and the rear part heritage, and decided to go with the latter version on the Chessie and subsequent heritage units.

Take a look at some of the close up photos/videos.

The chessie logo looks to be a vinyl decal, the lines are as straight as a drunk man walking, there's a ton of overspray, the decals were masked off (new ones weren't applied), and the handbrake housing was half-done.  It's easy enough to get custom colors (that are close enough to chessie colors).  

 

This was not done on any official level.  The RRs have paint shops for a reason.  I think this was a planned thing (many places have engines that may get parked in outlying spots for a day or 2) done by railfan/taggers that were bored or edgy, or whatever. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, August 17, 2023 8:20 AM

That Youtuber has been spreading this story that a highly-skilled "vandal" found a CSX engine and carefully masked off the windows and other parts, painted it using rare paint colors not available in spray cans (see CSX video below) - so presumably they had a portable airgun and compressor - and did it all in the dark in a railyard with no one catching them doing it until after it had all dried.

NONSENSE!

More logical, given that this happened about the same time CSX debuted their Chessie System heritage unit, is that CSX used this engine as a test. They painted the nose in the heritage scheme, then decided to go the other way and paint one with the nose CSX and the rear part heritage, and decided to go with the latter version on the Chessie and subsequent heritage units.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1fdOk-CRR0&t=4s

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, August 15, 2023 6:20 PM

OT #Youtube    I use Easy Youtube Download Video Express with Firefox.  It downloads with no ads.  I use VLC to watch it and can adjust the playback speed.

AFAIK there is no comparable app for Chrome if you are not willing to pay for Premium.

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Posted by PM Railfan on Tuesday, August 15, 2023 5:49 PM

Hmmmm Railfan vandals? Not words Id like to see in the same sentence.

On the other hand, Id rather see a bunch of heritage units done by them, than all the crap you see on the cars! 

Pretty sure the railroads wont mind, free paint on their metal surface as long as its publically correct. They'd be more worried about the safety issue.

As Railfans though, without permission, thats crossing the line!

 

PMR

 

 

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Posted by NittanyLion on Tuesday, August 15, 2023 12:07 PM

PM Railfan
Lowes Nor Walmart sell Vermillion, Midnight blue, etc.

Good thing that skilled graffiti artists don't use those. Amateur teenagers grab cans of Krylon. Guys that know what they're doing are using artists brands that come in huge arrays of colors. 

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, August 15, 2023 11:14 AM

PM Railfan
Naw naw, this was done by CSX, thats over two days work easily by a regular employee. Youd need a flash mob of vandals from L.A. to come out to the right coast and paint that in a night without being caught.

Have you seen how fast some people can paint a mural on a wall/railcar with spray cans? Painting the nose of an engine would be child's play for a graffiti artist that also was a railfan. 

Anyone remember the guys that painted 2 sides of the CB&Q engine at a scrapyard before it was torn apart? 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by AEP528 on Tuesday, August 15, 2023 7:28 AM

PM Railfan

 

 
AEP528

 

PM Railfan

Good video, but way too many commercials. Had to grab the video and watch it in my own software (commercial free!).

 

 

Ad blockers work on YouTube.

 

 

 

 

If they did, I wouldnt have had to use my own. Dont be misled, google knows all about ad-blockers, and exactly how to defeat them, too.

 

 

You really need to stop posting flat out wrong computer information. Ad blockers work on YouTube (for now, I'll admit).

Don't complain about ads on a free-to-you service. If you don't want ads on YouTube, then pay for YouTube. The published content world is and always has been supported by advertising.

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Posted by PM Railfan on Tuesday, August 15, 2023 2:17 AM

AEP528

 

PM Railfan

Good video, but way too many commercials. Had to grab the video and watch it in my own software (commercial free!).

 

 

Ad blockers work on YouTube.

 

 

If they did, I wouldnt have had to use my own. Dont be misled, google knows all about ad-blockers, and exactly how to defeat them, too.

 

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Posted by AEP528 on Monday, August 14, 2023 7:51 AM

PM Railfan

Good video, but way too many commercials. Had to grab the video and watch it in my own software (commercial free!).

Ad blockers work on YouTube.

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Posted by PM Railfan on Monday, August 14, 2023 1:21 AM

mvlandsw) Good video, but way too many commercials. Had to grab the video and watch it in my own software (commercial free!).

Im pretty sure though this unit wasnt vandalled. Lowes Nor Walmart sell Vermillion, Midnight blue, etc. And vandals arent smart enough to know about Chessie, the logo, OR the correct colors. They spray paint for a living, come on!

Being this unit is in Ga, its safe to presume this is the test unit for the paint mixes for the now seen Chessie Heritage unit. It was also painted in Ga. CSX had to contact outside sources because they were too lame to save important information such as this. 

Lastly, I dont know one vandal (i dont know any for that matter!) who actually has the ability to mask off the windows, cat logo, and the rest. get the job done (the layers!!), and dried off (in outdoor weather) and look that good.

Naw naw, this was done by CSX, thats over two days work easily by a regular employee. Youd need a flash mob of vandals from L.A. to come out to the right coast and paint that in a night without being caught.

Something fishy going on here!

 

Aint buying it!

PMR

 

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Posted by mvlandsw on Sunday, August 13, 2023 8:47 PM
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Posted by azrail on Monday, July 10, 2023 11:06 PM

Most of the formally PRR is under NS ownership now (and PRR ws done by NS)

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Posted by nealknows on Friday, July 7, 2023 4:46 PM

ripvanwnkl

Any forecast on first manufacturer of these CSX heritage units in HO and/or N scales? 

First choice - Scaletrains.com   Second choice - Athearn

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Posted by angelob6660 on Friday, July 7, 2023 1:27 PM

I wasn't disappointed in the chessie locomotive. The Chessie name and logo are to small. I didn't see the unique number font on locomotive. Is it in the back because they didn't show us?

If the N Scale models are the same having one ES44 body shell. I wouldn't be getting them. When you UP, BNSF, CP body shell on Eastern roads which are different. Makes them lazy repaints.

Modeling the G.N.O. Railway, The Diamond Route.

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Posted by Morpar on Friday, July 7, 2023 7:06 AM

Kind of ironic they are leaving out the Pennsy for a heritage unit. Right now the trackage CSX uses to get into Frankfort, Indiana is the former Pennsy line. CSX abandoned and removed the Monon line in the early 90's.

Good Luck, Morpar

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Posted by azrail on Friday, July 7, 2023 1:53 AM

MKT has already been done by UP. And C&EI was a part of MoPac-acquired by UP.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, July 7, 2023 12:52 AM

The Seaboard System unit is out!

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Posted by mvlandsw on Sunday, July 2, 2023 11:34 PM

I got to see the original Chessie units at the EMD 50th anniversary open house on 9/9/72. I never dreamed that I would someday be running GM50 and others into Clark Avenue and Collinwood yards.

The heritage units are nice but I would prefer to see them done in a full original scheme rather than the blend.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, July 2, 2023 8:01 PM

WPA
Check out the new paint job on the "1973" CSX unit.

I was in Cleveland on the day that the Chessie System paint was unveiled:

 1977_GP40 by Edmund, on Flickr

Chessie go-go boots and hot pants? Yep, that's the way it was...


Now I've lived long enough to see the 'heritage' recreation of the historic moment.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by mvlandsw on Sunday, July 2, 2023 7:48 PM

MKT as in Misouri-Kansas-Texas ???????

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Posted by ripvanwnkl on Sunday, July 2, 2023 1:13 PM

Any forecast on first manufacturer of these CSX heritage units in HO and/or N scales? 

Dave

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Posted by PM Railfan on Wednesday, June 21, 2023 1:27 AM

Thank you Overmod, that was very considerate of you. Yes

 

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, June 20, 2023 7:41 AM

PM Railfan
Hmmmmm. This one should be interesting

He just had it as "PM" in the original list, and I thought of you in particular so I typed it out.

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Posted by PM Railfan on Tuesday, June 20, 2023 1:12 AM

PERE MARQUETTE

 

???

 

 

Hmmmmm. This one should be interesting, considering.

PMR

 

 

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, June 19, 2023 8:22 PM

See the post over on the Trains forum.  There are apparently going to be 25, with different roadnames (including MKT!).

Secondhand via Leo Ames, and with some light editing, they are:

B&O
C&O
Pere Marquette
Chessie System
Clinchfield
Georgia RR
B&M (but, apparently, not MEC)
RF&P
NC&StL
A&WP
Monon (but apparently not C&A)
ACL
L&N
Seaboard Air Line
Seaboard Coast Line
Family Lines 
NYC (but not PRR)
P&LE
Western Maryland
C&EI
P&NR
Penn Central
Conrail
PAR (Pan Am Railways)
MKT

There is a note about the Baltimore and Ohio unit.  Note that the hood is BandO blue, but the cab stayed in Enchantment or whatever CSX calls their standard color.  Apparently this was an expedient thing, to get the locomotive done for an event, but the 'powers that be' liked it that way, and I suspect since this appears true for the Chessie unit as well that all the 'other' schemes will likewise have standard blue cabs.  I'm not complaining!

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Posted by PC101 on Monday, June 19, 2023 7:54 PM

gregc

#1827, the year the B&O was formed

perhaps a trend

 

 

I do remember hearing at a Memorial day picnic that CSX is going to do this in it's predecessor paint schemes. Time will tell.

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Posted by gregc on Monday, June 19, 2023 4:51 PM

#1827, the year the B&O was formed

perhaps a trend

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, June 19, 2023 12:17 PM

Pretty cool?

I'll say.

What a neat video and an awesome paint job.

Simply fantastic.

Rich

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