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What kind of cars/containers are these?

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What kind of cars/containers are these?
Posted by Water Level Route on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 11:10 AM

In the lower left corner, just above the Great Northern reefer you can see a car with some unique looking containers/covers.  There is a second three cars up in that same string.  Any idea what they are?

https://www.shorpy.com/node/25867?size=_original#caption

 

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Posted by rrinker on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 11:17 AM

 They look like LCL containers. MTH makes models of them

https://www.walthers.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/845x425/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/o/gondola_wlcl_containers_3-rail_ready_to_run_railkingr_507-3072126_big.jpg

More on them in Jeff Wilson's Express, Mail, and Mechandise Service book.

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 11:46 AM

That style is pretty specific to the PRR. I built one of the Funaro kits but still need to get the decal work done on it:

 PRR_FM_container-2 by Edmund, on Flickr

 

http://prr.railfan.net/freight/freightphotos.html?photo=PRR_470318_F31_E8809_containerdoorsopen.jpg&fr=clF31

 

 F&C also sells the containers as a separate kit.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:36 PM

One of the PRR ocntainers.  Still some around, hiding in rail yards. 

 

 

 

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Posted by Water Level Route on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 8:12 AM

Interesting!  Thanks guys!  I had no idea anything like these existed prior to modern type containers.

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Posted by BigJim on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 8:46 AM

You may also see some containers similar to these that are squared off at the top and covered with tarps. They will usually be in a unit train, though, I have seen some shipped four or five cars together. These will be "Trash" trains. 

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Posted by joe323 on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:15 AM

Atlas sells these trash cars that are modern versions of LCL on flatcar loads.  I see them all the time from the West Shore Expressway on Staten Island where CSX picks them up from the NYC Sanitation Department and hauls them south to be dumped.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:26 AM

It seems the Penncy used ones with a more rounded look than New York ones.

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:31 AM

Been looking for some of those, got one, an old Ambroid model buit but would like more.

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Posted by CapnCrunch on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:33 AM

Might any of these containers have been used on the west coast during the 1950s or were they strictly a northeast phenomenon?

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Monday, September 14, 2020 9:38 AM

Capn, Not sure. Try finding the following issues of the PRRT&H's Keystone

  • KEY 3/85 - Container Service on the PRR (Burg, Richard)
      History, photos, diagrams, roster, bibliography
  • KEY 9/85 - Container Service on the PRR, Epilogue ()
      photos
    • KEY 6/12 - Pennsylvania Railroad Container Car Service (Blardone, Chuck)
        History, photos, drawings

       

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    Posted by BEAUSABRE on Monday, September 14, 2020 9:48 AM

    PRR had a whole family of containers

    http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?sel=cont&sz=sm&fr=ge

    There were also containers used in cement service

    https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/19724

     

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    Posted by dehusman on Monday, September 14, 2020 3:35 PM

    CapnCrunch
    Might any of these containers have been used on the west coast during the 1950s or were they strictly a northeast phenomenon?

    No and no.  The MP had some similar containers.

    Those containers were for LCL service on line, so they would have stayed on whatever railroad they belonged to.  They would not have been interchanged because the car could only be loaded with those containers and other railroads wouldn't have facilities designed to handle them.  They ultimately turned out to be impractical and were phased out.

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    Posted by Lazers on Monday, September 14, 2020 4:02 PM

    I was wondering some time ago, what these orange Containers were on this CSX vid. Approx halfway thru, they are definately 4 No. seperate units per wagon. Paul

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    Posted by rrinker on Monday, September 14, 2020 4:24 PM

     Those look like they might be trash containers. 3:43 mark in this video is the CSX Trash Train, black version of the same sort of container, just carriesd on articulated cars instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kblH5MWY_EU

     According to Wikipedia, Q702 and Q703 run from the Brox NY via Philadelphia to Petersburg VA and interchange with the NS, running 4 containers per 89 foot flat car. Given where this video was filmed, it's probably one of those two trains.

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    Posted by Lazers on Monday, September 14, 2020 4:50 PM

    Cheers Randy, I pressume they are sealed tight. I love the "Equipment Defect Detector" announcement towards the end. Nothing like that on UK Railways. Paul

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    Posted by dehusman on Monday, September 14, 2020 8:02 PM

    East Carbon Development Co. = DSEX 

    https://www.waste360.com/mag/waste_little_train

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    Posted by BigJim on Monday, September 14, 2020 9:54 PM

    joe323

    Atlas sells these trash cars that are modern versions of LCL on flatcar loads.  I see them all the time from the West Shore Expressway on Staten Island where CSX picks them up from the NYC Sanitation Department and hauls them south to be dumped.

     

    Joe,

    At one time, the NS handled this train VIA the Shenandoah Valley line. I brought an empty train back north and swapped out crews in Shenandoah, Va. As this was a run through train, after swapping crews, we watched this train by in Shenandoah along with the RFE. As the rear  of the train came by, we noticed that someone had coupled a double stack as the rear car. The RFE phoned ahead to Hagerstown to have that car removed from the train. Apparently, his call fell on deaf ears as later that week we heard that a Trash Train took out a bridge up in NYC!

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    Posted by Lazers on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 7:12 AM

    dehusman

    East Carbon Development Co. = DSEX 

    https://www.waste360.com/mag/waste_little_train

     

    Thanks Dave, I did look-up DSEX - since noting the Reporting-marks on Freight wagons (from youtube vids) and then looking them up on the web is something I do in order to find out what's going-on - but this time; no info forthcoming. I noticed too, the heading of that page. Regards, Paul

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