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Delivery configuration of smaller operations oriented industries with multiple freight doors

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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, October 19, 2017 9:16 AM

Re building door spacing, I've read that 36' reefers continued being used in meat service long after the standard car size had shifted to 40' (or longer) was because so many huge packing plants had been built c. 1880-1900 with multiple doors spaced to accomodate the then-standard 36' car size.

Keep in mind also that two 50' long x 10.5' high boxcars have a slightly higher capacity than three 40' long x 8.5' high boxcars could...so not being able to use all the doors at a facility may not have been that big a deal, as the same amount of freight was able to be delivered in fewer cars.

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Posted by RANDY DERCK on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:09 PM

Thanks for the Google map, Bing map idea. I hadn't thought of that. A little aerial exploring might answer some of my questions. 

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Posted by RANDY DERCK on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:06 PM

Thanks Wayne. The door numbering idea is a keeper. Still lots to learn. 

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Posted by RANDY DERCK on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:04 PM

Hi Robert. Thanks for the welcome. This is a cool service.  

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Posted by RANDY DERCK on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:02 PM

Thanks for your input. I guess that was a part of my question since some cars would not move as quickly while others would turn over rather faster. The other part of question revolves around the movement of materials in a plant from start to shipable product.

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Posted by RANDY DERCK on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:58 PM

Thanks for the incite on door spacing problems with the transition from  40' vs. 50' cars.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, September 22, 2017 7:56 AM

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Not specifically, because it varies so much. You could have 5 bakeries and no two of them would get the same mix of cars, have the same track arrangement, or get the cars in the same order on whatever tracks they have.

Dave,That's true enough but,I think in this case either Bing or Google maps should yield several examples that should lead to modeling ideas..

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:08 PM

RANDY DERCK

Has anyone written about how various smaller industrial buildings would be set up according to their supply needs.bakeries, food producers etc., cars types used and a logical order of delivery points at such facilites 

 
Not specifically, because it varies so much.  You could have 5 bakeries and no two of them would get the same mix of cars, have the same track arrangement, or get the cars in the same order on whatever tracks they have.  

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, September 21, 2017 7:12 PM

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I'd guess that the paperwork for deliveries or requests for empties would include that information. Wayne

Wayne Correct.The switchlist I worked with read:

Example.

McGoven International (MP344.3).

23354 Door 4

12233  Door  3

28009  Door  2

Door 4 would be the first spot,then 3 then 2. Pickups would be doors 2,3 then 4.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, September 21, 2017 5:04 PM

As far as I'm aware, most, if not all, industries number their doors, so goods may be, f'rinstance, delivered to "Door 3", while product might be shipped from "Door 7". 
In the photo below, the white signs are simply door numbers, and in most cases, even man-doors are numbered.



I'd guess that the paperwork for deliveries or requests for empties would include that information.

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Thursday, September 21, 2017 11:44 AM

RANDY DERCK

Has anyone written about how various smaller industrial buildings would be set up according to their supply needs.bakeries, food producers etc., cars types used and a logical order of delivery points at such facilites 

Hey Randy-

I don't have specific info regarding your request, but I do like the title of your new thread: plenty of info but not way overboard.

Welcome to the forum. You're off to a good start. Welcome

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, September 21, 2017 11:16 AM

If the industry receives boxcars,covered hoppers and tank cars the boxcars would be unloaded at the dock doors while the covered hoppers and tanks would be unloaded at storage silos  unusually beyond the dock doors and these silos may also be accessible by truck.

Of course the unloading track for covered hoppers and tank cars may be on a separate siding. In this case  overhead pipes will take the product into the plant.

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Posted by 7j43k on Thursday, September 21, 2017 10:36 AM

I've never seen such an article.

Since industrial layout is up to the builder of the industry (not the railroad), it's gonna be pretty varied, depending on "personal inclinations".

But.

Relating to multiple doors:  Some industries set up a wall o' doors spaced for 40' cars.  4 doors-4 cars.  They became sad when 50' cars started showing up. 4 doors-2 cars.  Sadness.

 

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Delivery configuration of smaller operations oriented industries with multiple freight doors
Posted by RANDY DERCK on Thursday, September 21, 2017 8:50 AM

Has anyone written about how various smaller industrial buildings would be set up according to their supply needs.bakeries, food producers etc., cars types used and a logical order of delivery points at such facilites 

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