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What is the prototype for this decal set (ADM Corn Sweeteners)?

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What is the prototype for this decal set (ADM Corn Sweeteners)?
Posted by fieryturbo on Monday, March 13, 2017 8:30 AM

Hi all,

I'm looking to find out what the protoype of this looked like.  It appears to be mid-70s by the UTLX typeface.  I can't find a reference anywhere.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted by Omaha53 on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:09 AM

You can see a photo on the Canadian Freight Car website. UTLX 72243

http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=utlx72243&o=utlx

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:29 AM

Well I'll be!  I was searching too, as I have some of these decals, and this car, 72243 isn't listed in the 221 pages of rrpicturearchives UTLX tank cars.  Maybe I'll just leave the flower off, and just use the reporting marks.

Thanks.

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Posted by fieryturbo on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:30 AM

In this case, I really needed to hotlink.

Can anyone identify this type of car?  I can't tell what the actual car type is.  Nothing is stated next to it.

Thanks so much for the link! I never would have found it on my own.

 

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Posted by Omaha53 on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:47 AM
I found a different type of car on the Fallen Flag web site. http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/utlx/utlx72418spa.jpg
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Posted by fieryturbo on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:49 AM

That appears to be the correct car for the decals.  What kind of car is it?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:49 AM

I would think it would be general service, or low pressure.  It might have the steam coils.  If any of this is what you mean by type.

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Posted by fieryturbo on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:54 AM

Actually, the car in the 2nd link is I think what I'm after.  It's obviously a UTLX car, but I can't tell the capacity.  Is there a current HO model of the car in the 2nd link?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, March 13, 2017 10:09 AM

All this is right up my alley, as I'm currently putting some tank cars together, letting some glue dry.

Anyway, from what I see on rrpictures, it's 43' 10" long, and a capacity of 12,000 to 18,000 thousand gallons.

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Posted by dti406 on Monday, March 13, 2017 12:44 PM

Most Corn Syrup Tank Cars were in the 17,600 Gal Category, which is the car produced by Atlas.

Here is a car I did using the Herald King Set for the same car.

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Posted by fieryturbo on Monday, March 13, 2017 1:03 PM

dti406

Most Corn Syrup Tank Cars were in the 17,600 Gal Category, which is the car produced by Atlas.

Here is a car I did using the Herald King Set for the same car.

Rick Jesionowski

 

These cars were produced 1984+ and wouldn't be right for a NEW 04-75 decal. (Also, I'm modeling 1975-81)

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Posted by dti406 on Monday, March 13, 2017 2:03 PM

fieryturbo
 

These cars were produced 1984+ and wouldn't be right for a NEW 04-75 decal. (Also, I'm modeling 1975-81)

 

Your choices from research I have done boil down to these,

The Walthers 16,000 Funnel Flow Tank car (40') which was used in corn syrup service prior to the new Trinity Cars.

Athearn does now make a 16,000 Tank Car, but the prototyp may be a new version of the car and not applicable.

The Atlas Kaolin Tank Car 14,000 Gal Tank Car, could be used as a standin as it is the correct length, but has a smaller diameter.

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Posted by ericsp on Monday, March 13, 2017 10:20 PM

fieryturbo

Actually, the car in the 2nd link is I think what I'm after.  It's obviously a UTLX car, but I can't tell the capacity.  Is there a current HO model of the car in the 2nd link?

 

Walthers 16,000 gallon Funnel-Flow tank car

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Posted by fieryturbo on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 8:16 AM

ericsp

 

 
fieryturbo

Actually, the car in the 2nd link is I think what I'm after.  It's obviously a UTLX car, but I can't tell the capacity.  Is there a current HO model of the car in the 2nd link?

 

 

 

Walthers 16,000 gallon Funnel-Flow tank car

 

OK, after digging, I wanted to make sure, but yeah, that looked really close.  Thanks!

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 12:19 PM

I have an old MDC kit built tank car with lettering just like that decal sheet.  Of course the MDC "modern" tank cars are a bit generic and don't match any prototypes exactly AFAIK.

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