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Evergreen Scale Corrugated Metal Siding

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Evergreen Scale Corrugated Metal Siding
Posted by richhotrain on Friday, November 23, 2012 12:39 PM

This stuff is 0.040" thick styrene, and it comes in a variety of groove spacing and rib widths.

How do you decided which variety to use in modeling a small shed?

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Friday, November 23, 2012 1:59 PM

The best way is to research the different sizes of siding and where they were used.  The other way is to just use what looks good to you.  Because I am not a scale nut, the second way is usually what I do.

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, November 23, 2012 2:13 PM

Here is a photo of the machine shed that I am trying to model.   Can you tell anything by merely looking at it regarding groove spacing and rib widths?

 

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Posted by DSchmitt on Friday, November 23, 2012 2:43 PM

I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it.

I don't have a leg to stand on.

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Posted by richhotrain on Friday, November 23, 2012 2:56 PM

Wow, that is pretty cool.

Thanks for that, dschmitt, I need to study it more, but that should really help.

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Posted by superbe on Friday, November 23, 2012 4:21 PM

My thought is that if you were modeling N scale you would need to use the smallest spacing so if you're into HO I'd try the next size.

That's the way I selected my ballast and it worked for that.

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Friday, November 23, 2012 6:39 PM

Before the 1960's or 70's, most buildings that had metal siding used corrugated siding of iron or steel. This siding type and size was fairly standard and is still sold today. They even make it in fiberglass. Around the 1970's or so, the 'new' type of metal siding came out. It had larger spaces and was flatter in shape. The Rix metal building kits simulate this type of siding.

The building that you want to model represents an older type of building that would use corrugated metal for the siding and roof. Campbell scale models also makes this type of siding in small metal strip sheets for HO. (Or at least they used to.) I think Micro-Mark also has some corrugated siding in metal sheets.

Elmer.

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(Modeling Freelance, Eastern US, HO scale, in 1962, with NCE DCC for locomotive control and a stand alone LocoNet for block detection and signals.) http://waynes-trains.com/ at home, and N scale at the Club.

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Posted by cowman on Friday, November 23, 2012 10:13 PM

I recently did an HO shed roof with corrigated roofing.  I bought both HO and N size (as marked on the package).  When I got the pieces next to the building, the HO seemed much to large for the shed.  I like the looks of the N on the HO building.  I would think it would look large on an N scale building.  To indicate the sheet edges I just drew in the lines with a pencil,  I used a #2, but I think I would try to find a harder pencil next time.

Have fun,

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:37 AM

Here is my dilemma.

Evergreen Scale makes the corrugated metal sheet in six sizes and picking the right size is what confuses me.  I wish the sizes were just marked N, HO, etc.   I am modeling in HO.

http://www.evergreenscalemodels.com/Sheets.htm#Corrugated

Scroll down the page to Corrugated Metal Siding

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Posted by gandydancer19 on Saturday, November 24, 2012 8:26 AM

That is because the Evergreen metal siding is metal siding and not corrugated siding. Think of this siding as made of small boxes. The raised box can be a different size that the space between them.

However, you can use this material to simulate corrugated siding. Just use the smaller sizes. I would start by getting a pack of the two smallest sizes and pick the one that works best for you. I keep a stock of Evergreen strips and sheets on hand for my projects. I recently used one of the smaller sizes to represent corrugated siding and from a distance you can't tell that it isn't corrugated, particularly after it's been painted. (I just looked and it is all gone and not replaced yet.)

For getting the actual size right, you have to measure it. A digital caliper is the way to go. Look at the sheet posted by Dschmitt and look at the corrugation dimensions. They range from 1 ¼ to 2 ½ inches between them. Measure that on a scale ruler, then measure that with your digital calipers and you get the size in thousandths. Then you can make a choice. I would use the grove spacing as the size.

I hope this helps.

Elmer.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 24, 2012 9:34 AM

Elmer, thanks, that helps a lot.

I like your idea about buying the two smallest sizes and that is what I will do.

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Posted by Redore on Saturday, November 24, 2012 1:31 PM

Most commercial and industrial buildings I've seen, including National Steel's Quonset Huts used the 2 1/2 inch courrigations.  The 1 1/4 inch corrugations were more apt to be used on farm buildings and the like.

The hold down screws went on the peaks to minimize leaks.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:18 PM

gandydancer19

That is because the Evergreen metal siding is metal siding and not corrugated siding.

Evergreen calls it corrugated metal siding.

And, I just found the HAER (Historical American Engineering Record) which indicates that the bridge tender's cabin is made of corrugated metal siding and a gable roof.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:19 PM

Redore

Most commercial and industrial buildings I've seen, including National Steel's Quonset Huts used the 2 1/2 inch courrigations.  The 1 1/4 inch corrugations were more apt to be used on farm buildings and the like.

The hold down screws went on the peaks to minimize leaks.

That is very helpful, thanks.

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Posted by JAMAD RR on Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:56 PM

Have you thought of making your own corrugated iron out of tin foil.  Just press it onto a Mill *** file then stick it to cardboard.  The way I make N scale fencing is to use a piece of Structural Pine which in Aust has fine grooves cut into it which are perfect for rubbing foil paper onto and cutting into whatever size/shape you want.  I use white glue to stick it onto cardboard and once dry paint it they way I want.

The file makes a finer corrugation than the timber.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:09 PM

I have thought about it.

Check out this link where the guy used a paper crimper to simulate corrugated metal siding with tin foil

http://www.scalemodelplans.com/smp/tutorials/metal_siding.html

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Posted by cowman on Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:12 PM

You can also make your own by pressing tin foil against a ribbon cable with your thumb.  Found this out after I bought the plastic sheets.  Tried it and they looked OK, may use the pieces for a scrap load and pieces at a building supply store.

Have fun,

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Posted by doctorwayne on Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:32 PM

Rich, the reason that the sheets aren't designated by scale is because there is a variety of corrugation widths available for the real sheets.
Your query prompted me to check my supply of building materials, and I did find a mostly-used-up package of Evergreen corrugated siding.  That then prompted me to wonder what the heck I had built from it, as I usually use the Campbell sheets.  After wandering around the layout room for about 15 minutes Bang Head, I finally found the structure.  If you click twice on the photo, it should give you an enlargement which will better-show the corrugations:


The original packaging shows it to be Evergreen 4526, with .040" spacing.

The roof was done with Campbell sheets, applied over a .060" sheet styrene roof deck:


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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:43 PM

Wayne,

First off, great modeling, as usual.

I was all set to use the 0.030" Evergreen sheet until you posted.  Now, I am  not sure.

As you know, that is the bridge tender's house that I plan to model on the lift bridge.

I may just order 0.030" and 0.040" and see which looks better compared to the prototype.

Rich

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