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turnout switches crossover problems please help

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turnout switches crossover problems please help
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 26, 2007 11:07 PM
i have a left and right hand bachmann e-z track n scale swith turnouts and when i hook them up i can get power to all the outside track. but the switch over part that crosses over to the track in the middle to the other side is dead train just stops. is it something simple?? not sure what to do to make it work. do i need a jumper wire? can u send me a diagram or picture to make all track get power. or can anyone send me a picture of how to best setup to loops with these and make them work. thanksSign - Dots [#dots]
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Posted by Walter Clot on Friday, October 26, 2007 11:46 PM
If you have a meter that tests continuity, use it to find the point where there is no power.  Some turnouts only send power to the side where the train is going.   
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 26, 2007 11:53 PM
i think this is what is happing how do i make it work can u send me exaple?
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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Friday, October 26, 2007 11:55 PM

Just put wires from you power pack to the track that isn't getting power, just the same way as the track that is.  Hook it up so that the wires go to the corresponding rails on each loop.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:03 AM
u mean hook up wires to both sides of terminal?? can send some kind of picture im a newbie just getting started and want to make 2 loops that will run not sure what i need to do thanks for your help i am very new...
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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:35 AM

Red to one terminal, green to the other

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:59 AM

but i have plastic ends on mine will i need to cut them the bachmann factory ends?  and black swith boxes that swith the switches i have put together and plug 1 ac to it and the 2 green wires into each box they switch. but like i say it will only works...read above  also i can switch a certain one and kill the track that is working.  i noticed that so it is a power issue just im not up on how to connect it all. and u  say 1 red and 1 green it is 3 wire on the green and it has a black plastic end with all 3 connections? and the red has 2 same way. plus the swith boxes? how would i connect it all and make it work. is what i need  for 2 switch boxes and 2 switch's and all powered do i need 2 terminals? i did not figure it would be this hard wow lol .. but i want tit to work so i need a more detailed but i am starting to c what is going on i think.

 

copy paste this in address bar this is the track and turnouts i have                                                                                                                                                                  http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b6/01/8997_1.JPG

 

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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:40 AM

Forget the colors I used, I just picked them to be different.

Don't change any of the wires taht you are using to control the switches (I'm guessing three wires to each, with a button or switch somewhere?) which are going to the AC terminals.

All you are doing is adding a set of wires from the DC terminals to the track.  To do taht you might need another set of joiners with wires on them, I'm not sure how you are connected to the track now.  What is happening is that the switches are not only switching the trains, they are switching the power.  there are times when that is useful, unfortunately, this is not one of them!  Would I be correct in guessing that the train will continue on the inner loop until you throw the switches back to the outer loop so that you can continue around the inner?

Perhaps someone familiar with the actual Bachmann connectors will have a suggestion of how to best get the other wires hooked up to the rails.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 27, 2007 2:10 AM
ok i have the 2 switch boxes hooked together and 1 red 2 wire from dc on another power unit going to switch boxes and both switch boxes have a green 3 wire that is connected to each box and to switch. then i have my power ac going to my terminal rerailer. i have extra red 2 wire
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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Saturday, October 27, 2007 2:28 AM

Back up, and slow down!

The terminal rerailer should have DC going to it.  If you are using the Bachmann pack , it looks to me like it has a plug in connector on the power pack end.

The switch boxes should be hooked together, and should have a two wire from the AC output of the power pack and a three wire to each switch (one from each box).

What we are trying to add is power to the track again, which is what the terminal rerailer is doing.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:08 AM
yes u are correct so far it is dc to rerailer and switches work so now how would i power the rest of the track not working do i  need another rerailer terminal? or can u show me how u would make 2 loops and hook it up to work can u give me a diagram on a basic setup and it wired to work correct. then i can just use it and make it.
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Posted by Vail and Southwestern RR on Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:22 AM

The easiest way would be another rerailer terminal, on the inner loop.  If you can't do that, then if you can solder a pair of wires onto the rails in the inner loop, and then connect them either to the rerailer terminal on the outer loop or even to the rails of the outer loop, that would also work.

 

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Posted by Jake1210 on Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:31 AM
The problem here is that the bachmann N Scale turnouts are power routing, which means that ONLY the route that the train is to take has power to it., I.E., If the points are set to have the train go over the diveriging route, only the diverging route is powered, and the straight leg is dead, and vice-versa. I do NOT know how to solve this problem, I dont have any experience with power routhing turnouts. Better people to ask than us would be the N Scale community on Bachmann's forums. Many of them have probably used more N Scale E-Z track than most people here. Here is a link to the forums: http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/

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