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News from LGB/EPL
Posted by Rene Schweitzer on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:01 PM

This just in:

 http://www.trains.com/grw/default.aspx?c=a&id=611 

 

(I literally just posted it. The article may not appear for a few minutes yet.) 

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Posted by kimbrit on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:09 PM

Hi Rene, I posted the following on the 12th July last year in a thread on LGB, close to the mark methinks..........................

My understanding is that LGB is now back in control of itself after re-financing and LGB of America is a seperate company that has promised to make LGB its main supplier of goods. I expect that in reality this means LGB will stagger along for a while longer and LGB of America will buy whatever it wants from whomever it wants. This is why I've spent a lot of money on LGB recently, just in case my own personal view is correct.

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Posted by kimbrit on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:14 PM

Just another thought on this, as LGBoA own copyright/trademark worldwide (except Germany) I assume we can expect supply to the UK to be maintained, but will we enjoy the sort of prices our American cousins enjoy? or will we still be ripped off?

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:27 PM

AHA!

SO the cat is out of the bag and we finally know why LGBofA was been so quite of late!

Over at MLS there was a suspicion that EPL/LGB would be just that: LGB of Germany, and only Germany and Europe, serving the Euro profile crowd with only made in Germany products . While LGBofA would serve the USA (that "rest of the world" statement surprised me!) with Made in China (I guess we're generally less fussy about that) US profile products. And thats just whats coming to pass! This will definetly be an Interesting year!

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Posted by kimbrit on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:08 PM
Quite right Vic, very interesting and a very interesting stable of stock will be coming along when the dust settles. Just what the garden scene needs in my opinion, who knows, LGBoA may fit metal wheels to all of their rolling stock as standard, now that would be interesting!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:58 PM

Here here or is it hear hear.

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Posted by devils on Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:52 AM
 kimbrit wrote:

Just another thought on this, as LGBoA own copyright/trademark worldwide (except Germany) I assume we can expect supply to the UK to be maintained, but will we enjoy the sort of prices our American cousins enjoy? or will we still be ripped off?

Except that all the wholesale UK stock comes from Germany unless they all change to LGB USA for supply. I think the less friendly takeover option , as far as the Richters are concerned, may well come to pass with the investment bank that was interested before or even Hornby having a go. At least if it was Hornby the boxes would still be red!

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Posted by kimbrit on Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:12 AM

Yes that's very true, I was just crystal ball gazing again and actually seeing, as you said, the UK being supplied by LGBoA. A lot of what I buy these days seems to be LGBoA origin, made in China with, in the case of a recently purchased set, a 120v transformer. I have seen the same sets in retail shops, all with 120v transformers. Now Hornby, that'll be different, they'll change the hook and loops so the hook is on top of the loop and we might even see a complete range of Brit outline.

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Posted by devils on Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:38 AM
 kimbrit wrote:

 Now Hornby, that'll be different, they'll change the hook and loops so the hook is on top of the loop and we might even see a complete range of Brit outline.

And do away with those plastic springs that push them up in favour of gravity, that's definitely not a German solution! Brit outline & possibly Thomas now that'd be funny, lots of serious collectors being forced to buy engines with faces to complete the collection!

Seriously though I hope someone does take it on although whatever you may feel about the prices at least they tried to keep their staff in Germany. Any major company like a bank or Hornby will definitlely move all production to China and if they're lucky keep R&D in Germany.

 

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Posted by kimbrit on Friday, February 16, 2007 2:16 AM

I have always been a fan of things LGB, their passenger starter set got me into the garden back in '86, but I think this is going to end up with a lot of redundancies in Germany, the prices have now increased with the starter sets shooting up by 25%, now that's the way to get people into the hobby isn't it? If the european end goes toes up we'll have to see how LGBoA reacts and what range they will make. As said before, a big shake up in anything never hurts, as long as the customer remains the focus.

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Posted by Curmudgeon on Friday, February 16, 2007 4:06 PM

Interesting new development:

 

http://www.largescalecentral.com/LSCForums/viewtopic.php?id=7058

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 16, 2007 6:54 PM

I have been to the factory in Nuremburg and I am used to watching factory people at work and i can tell you they are the slowest workers i have ever seen, I don't know why but it could have been low morale or even trying to keep themsleves looking as though they are working (self Preservation)

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Posted by kimbrit on Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:58 PM

That's business, it will survive or it will go under, either way the hobby will move forward and I, for one, am glad that LGBoA is a seperate company, at least something will survive to carry the mark forward. As always, time will tell.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 17, 2007 5:53 PM

Yes mate, time will tell, but i hope they survive as i think LGB is the most forward thinking company in this business.

I think that if i could not have had all the alternatives that LGB have to offer, i would not have gone on with the hobby.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:20 PM
Selfishly, I really hope they not only survive, but prosper! (I want a Dumbo car for my daughter, but I want the price to come down first, not go up)...Meanwhile, having 2 parties in different countries both claiming that the own the same intellectual property doesn't sound too good to this old farm boy. The usual big winners in those kinda cases are the lawyers
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 18, 2007 5:41 PM

More than one company having the right to use a name or symbol is not new.  When the Victor company was bought by RCA, the dog in front of the Victrola with the slogan "His Master's Voce was used by both RCA and JVC. The records on this side were labeled "RCA Victor", and I suspect Victor was also included on the Japanese labels; it certainly was included in the corporate name..

I'm sure that other examples can be cited.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 18, 2007 5:59 PM

Your right about the lawyers, maybe they will ignore each other and get on with business!

Lets hope so anyway.

Rgds Ian

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