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GG-1: LGB vs. USA

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GG-1: LGB vs. USA
Posted by dukebasketballer` on Monday, January 8, 2007 5:18 PM

Hi guys,

The thought of a gg-1 has crossed my mind several times, but the price has kept me from buying one. I am now able to buy one though and want to see if they are worth the price tag and which manufacturer has the better all around engine, price aside. I know the LGB version has sound and MTS and the USA has QSI sound and dcc. So engine is easier to operate? Which is the smoother running engine? Which has a better sound system?

Thanks guys

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Posted by RR Redneck on Monday, January 8, 2007 5:29 PM
I really liked USA's GG1. I aint really much for LGB.

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Posted by dukebasketballer` on Monday, January 8, 2007 5:39 PM

Can you elaborate? Why did you like the USA over the LGB model?

Thanks

David Wenrich
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 8, 2007 6:08 PM

Whats a GG?

Rgds Ian

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Posted by CCSII on Monday, January 8, 2007 8:06 PM
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Posted by Bucksco on Monday, January 8, 2007 8:08 PM

Come on Johnny!

Do you have R5 curves? If not you might want to consider one that will negotiate tighter radius curves.

 

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Posted by dukebasketballer` on Monday, January 8, 2007 9:29 PM

Jonny,

You know I have to investigate all the options on the market. And by the way, I do have R5 curves. Obviously I am leaning to the LGB, but I have to look at everybody.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 8, 2007 11:20 PM
 dukebasketballer wrote:

Hi guys,

The thought of a gg-1 has crossed my mind several times, but the price has kept me from buying one. I am now able to buy one though and want to see if they are worth the price tag and which manufacturer has the better all around engine, price aside. I know the LGB version has sound and MTS and the USA has QSI sound and dcc. So engine is easier to operate? Which is the smoother running engine? Which has a better sound system?

Thanks guys

 

Hello David,

Does scale matter????

The USA GG-1 measures 32.5" (825.5mm) and is listed as 1:29 scale

The LGB GG-1 measures 28.75" (730mm), no scale listed. (Scale for the length is 1:33.2)

The proto measures 79.5ft (24232mm) which in 1:29 scales out to 835.6mm.

USAT length error: 1.2% too short

LGB length error: 14.5% too short

Many (most?) of the "G" scalers who run standard gauge items consider 1:29 to be the de facto "standard".

Hope that helps.

 

ER 

 

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Posted by devils on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 5:35 AM
The USA GG1 goes round R3 4ft radius LGB track no problem but that's the minimum. It looks superb and weighs a ton, it has a carrying handle that screws into the top of the loco to get it from the box onto the track.
The one belonging to my friend runs fine on slightly undulating track and he choose it over the LGB one because he thought it looked better from the side as there was too much daylight under the LGB chassis. He liked the look of both though.
The reviews I've read also said the USA one is closer to scale, although narrow on track gauge, while the LGB one appeared to have a bit of selective compression in certain dimensions.
I would really say that you'd need to see them side by side if it's down to looks but if you need to run on R1 or R2 the it's got to be LGB or my mate would recommend the USA one if you have the larger curves.
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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 1:20 PM
Also consider if you have the wider R3 curves, the USA version is well over 1/2 the cost less, $1350 at a well known east coast discounter.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 6:42 PM

This is the beauty of bending your own rail, i can have any curve i like, i do have an R5 but i also have an R2.5 as well as R4. in different places, you can also have any length you want down to the last millimetre.

Rgds Ian

PS what is a GG?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 7:29 PM
 iandor wrote:

PS what is a GG?

 

 

 

Still the same engine as posted earlier in this thread!Whistling [:-^] Whistling [:-^]  Whistling [:-^]

 

 

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