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Posted by Mike Dorsch CJ&M r.r. on Friday, January 12, 2007 7:33 PM
I'll second that Ian ! My railroad runs around the parimeter of my yard and right in the middle is our pool . I sometimes do the same thing .
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 12, 2007 6:24 PM

I do run my trains all year round as well, however another big advantage for the MTS system, i take my remote and get in the pool in summer and run them from there as it is so hot here in Queensland.

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Posted by Mike Dorsch CJ&M r.r. on Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:42 PM
We don't know enough about the earth to say if global warming is caused by humans . I heard somewhere that the poles on the planet Mars were shrinking too . As far as I know there are no suv's there .I think that maybe the sun goes through cycles and that could cause fluxuations in the temperatures of our planet . Don't get me wrong , I don't think we are helping anything by all the gasses humans release into the air but I don't think anyone can say that that would be the cause for these recent events . As far as the train stuff is concerened I usually run my stuff all year anyway .
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:44 PM

And that is the problem it is warmer than usual in your part of the world for this time of year and we are getting more varied weather here than we can remember, on the other side of the world; somethis is happening i am sure of it. But is it a cyclic thing? i am not sure either way.

A thing that has been worrying me for about 20 years and you would have to be in my age group to detect this but two things have been happening together for about 100 years or i think they have anyway. If you take the line of thought far enough it is frightening. Those two things are global warming and human females are maturing earlier and earlie for the same length of time. Does mother nature know something we don't and are we facing something frightening on a world scale, where this will be important from a survival point of view.

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Posted by markperr on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:30 PM

I've seen nothing definitive that has convinced me that global warming actually DOES exist and that we, as humans, are the cause of it.

Don't get me wrong.  I'm extremely glad that many laws have been enacted that have reduced the pollution levels here in the U.S., but mostly because it has cleaned up our air, land, and water.  Mother nature is very good about cleaning up any messes that we have created.  She herself has poisoned the atmosphere on levels far beyond what we have been able to generate, but she always rights herself.

Still, that said, it's been far warmer than normal this winter here in the great lakes area and that brings mixed emotions with it.  On the one hand, I'm glad that it's happening as it has caused my electric and gas bills to be reduced.  Yet, on the other hand, I know that this can cause lake levels to be reduced over the course of the coming years, which will change the landscape and coastal eco-system. 

As for running trains, I haven't been able to run for reasons other than weather.  Just been too busy with other things.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 6:49 PM

Yes mate i understand el Nino is causing both our countries a lot of problems, different problems but it is something which appears to be new though.

If you go back to Moses he had the idea that el nino hit you every 7 years and it always has in the past as far as i know, he certainly thought so, what 3000 years ago.

Well el Nino is visiting australia more often that every 7 years lately as a matter of fact he doesn't appear to have left for about 5 years.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 8:37 AM
Apart from this winter, which as has already been pointed out is more due to El Nino than greenhouse gases, it's possible global warming will have other train-related effects, or at least garden-related effects.  For example, in the U.S., the National Arbor Day Foundation has just issued a revised hardiness zone map, and large sections of the country are now in a different zone than they were 15 years ago.  There's a map you can check out at their web site to see the new zones and the changes.  Personally,  I went from a Zone 6 to a Zone 7.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 8, 2007 6:18 PM

Yes Cacole i agree with you, but the idea of long term changes are very serious and hard to be sure of one way or another. We here in the southern hemisphere would have a similar view but from a different direction and the idea of global weather confusion has some merit.

A few things of extremes 1) they have had ice bergs in the shipping lanes off New Zealand for the first time since Captain Cook discovered the area in 1770.2) 2002/3 was Queenslands hottest summer in 100 years. 3) A day in August 2005 was its coldest day in 50 years, it got down to 12 deg C max and 10 deg C minimum.

So to me something is changing but being the skeptic i am i cannot say for sure that it truly is.

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Posted by cacole on Monday, January 8, 2007 3:15 PM
As usual, the question of global warming depends on where you are -- here in Arizona this year, it has been an extremely severe, cold winter.  And the residents of Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas, and other Rocky Mountain states would like to have some of your 70 degree weather to melt the snow they have received, which includes drifts up to 10 feet deep.
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Posted by Bill C. on Monday, January 8, 2007 2:07 PM
I saw cherry trees blooming today not too far from my home.  I can't ever recall seeing that before in January in these parts.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 8, 2007 1:15 PM

Once the jet stream changes the temps will return to normal conditions. It was 71 degrees here in USA Maryland.

Global warming will be so minute in temperture change (i.e. 1 or 2 degrees or less) people won't even notice, however it will cause havoc on the ecosystem. 

 

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Posted by tangerine-jack on Monday, January 8, 2007 12:33 PM

 Actualy these are your averages Vic:

 

Monthly Average Maximum & Minimum Temperatures

Measured in Degrees Fahrenheit

StationAvg. Temp.

Jan

Feb

Mar

Apr

May

Jun

Jul

Aug

Sep

Oct

Nov

Dec

Annual

Avalon 1Max

61.9

62.9

63.3

65.3

66.9

69.2

72.1

73.5

73.0

70.7

67.1

63.2

67.4

Min

46.6

47.6

48.4

51.2

53.8

56.9

60.3

61.4

59.9

56.4

51.0

47.4

53.4

Burbank 2Max66.968.870.374.076.681.788.789.387.281.173.467.977.2
Min41.643.645.649.053.457.160.961.359.253.345.941.751.0
Canoga Park 3Max

67.6

70.1

72.1

77.0

80.7

87.3

94.8

95.3

91.5

84.1

74.8

68.9

80.4

Min

39.2

40.7

41.7

44.7

48.9

52.9

56.9

57.4

54.6

48.8

42.4

38.8

47.3

Culver City 4Max

66.5

67.3

67.9

70.4

71.5

74.2

78.1

79.2

78.9

76.2

71.9

68.0

72.5

Min

45.0

46.5

48.0

51.2

54.3

57.8

61.1

61.8

60.5

56.0

49.9

45.9

53.2

Lancaster 5Max

57.3

60.4

64.8

71.5

79.2

88.9

95.3

94.7

88.6

78.2

65.5

57.4

75.1

Min

31.4

35.1

39.7

45.0

53.1

60.6

66.1

64.2

57.4

46.4

35.2

28.9

46.9

LAX 7Max

65.0

65.4

65.3

67.7

69.1

72.0

75.3

76.5

76.2

73.9

70.3

66.2

70.2

Min

47.2

48.9

50.2

53.0

56.2

59.5

62.8

63.8

62.6

58.5

52.1

47.8

55.2

Long Beach Airport 6Max

66.9

67.5

68.3

72.0

73.6

77.3

82.6

84.3

82.5

78.4

72.2

67.4

74.4

Min

45.5

47.4

49.6

52.3

56.7

60.1

63.6

65.0

62.9

57.9

50.3

45.2

54.7

Los Angeles Civic Center 8Max

66.3

67.4

68.8

71.1

73.0

77.1

82.4

83.2

81.8

77.6

73.0

67.7

74.1

Min

48.4

49.7

51.1

53.5

56.5

59.7

63.1

64.0

62.7

58.8

53.4

49.4

55.9

StationAvg. Temp.

Jan

Feb

Mar

Apr

May

Jun

Jul

Aug

Sep

Oct

Nov

Dec

Annual

Montebello 9Max

69.4

71.1

72.6

77.8

79.0

83.6

88.6

89.8

87.9

82.6

75.4

70.9

79.1

Min

47.9

49.0

50.5

53.5

57.1

60.6

64.3

65.2

63.6

58.3

51.4

47.2

55.7

Mt Wilson 10Max

51.5

52.5

53.9

59.3

66.0

75.1

81.3

80.8

76.9

68.5

58.9

53.0

64.8

Min

36.2

36.5

36.7

40.8

47.1

55.8

63.2

62.4

58.4

50.8

42.7

37.7

47.4

Palmdale 11Max

58.2

62.1

66.9

73.9

81.5

90.0

97.5

96.8

91.2

80.2

67.2

58.8

77.0

Min

32.2

35.5

38.7

43.6

50.4

57.5

64.8

63.6

57.2

47.8

37.8

32.5

46.8

Pasadena 12Max

66.7

68.4

70.2

74.0

76.6

81.5

88.6

89.5

87.5

81.2

74.0

67.9

77.2

Min

42.7

44.5

46.0

49.1

52.6

56.0

60.2

61.0

59.2

54.0

47.3

43.4

51.3

Pomona 13Max

65.7

67.9

69.8

74.1

77.4

83.1

90.7

90.6

88.3

81.1

73.4

66.9

77.4

Min

38.1

40.3

42.2

45.6

49.7

53.1

57.5

58.0

55.7

50.2

42.5

38.5

47.6

San Gabriel 14Max

68.9

70.4

71.6

75.3

77.8

82.6

88.9

89.8

88.2

82.4

75.3

70.0

78.4

Min

41.4

43.4

45.6

48.9

53.1

56.9

60.7

61.2

59.1

53.5

45.8

41.6

50.9

Sandberg 15Max

47.5

50.2

52.6

58.9

66.3

76.7

84.9

84.3

79.0

68.4

56.1

48.1

64.4

Min

35.0

36.6

36.9

40.9

46.4

54.9

62.9

62.4

58.7

50.8

41.7

35.7

46.9

Santa Monica Pier 16Max

64.0

63.7

63.1

64.1

64.9

67.4

70.5

71.6

71.7

70.3

67.9

64.9

67.0

Min

49.6

50.3

51.0

53.1

55.7

58.6

61.4

62.5

61.7

58.5

53.8

50.0

55.5

StationAvg. Temp.

Jan

Feb

Mar

Apr

May

Jun

Jul

Aug

Sep

Oct

Nov

Dec

Annual

Torrance 17Max

66.1

67.2

67.6

70.2

71.8

74.5

78.2

79.4

78.7

76.4

71.6

67.3

72.4

Min

44.8

46.3

47.4

50.1

53.9

57.0

60.5

61.5

60.1

56.0

49.6

45.3

52.7

Westwood 18Max

65.5

66.5

66.4

68.5

69.2

72.2

76.7

77.9

77.8

75.1

71.0

66.7

71.1

Min

49.7

50.4

50.2

52.6

55.0

57.8

60.9

61.9

61.3

58.5

54.4

50.6

55.3

 

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, January 8, 2007 11:53 AM

Lets see, its was 70F yesterday (normal)

Today is forcast for 84F (well above normal)

This weekend should be 58F (below normal)

We're experiencing "Global Confusion"

   Have fun with your trains

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 7, 2007 6:12 PM

Yes well this is all well and good and Kim has a point but so has jack; i personally think there is room for concern but i really believe no one really knows.

In this land of sunshine we are having one of the coolest and poorest summer in many years.

We are seeing many extremes all over the world, but have we seen this pattern before? Well i just don't know.

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Posted by lionel2986 on Sunday, January 7, 2007 5:37 PM

We are not tracking right down the middle of "the long term temperature averages". This winter is warmer than average. This is evident if you take a look at the crude oil market, and the lower than normal demand for heating oil. Global warming is a serious problem. However, this warm weather is not directly linked to global warming and it is important to distinguish the difference. This is an El Nino winter which usually results in above average temperatures (for our location). When El Nino weakens like it has in the past, winter feels cold as usual. If El Nino weakens next winter and it feels cold as normal, this does not mean Global Warming went away. It just means El Nino weakened. Global warming is and increase in global temperature that is not as noticeable as El Nino unless ofcourse, you look at temperature data from all over the world. It is also more difficult to predict the weather during El Nino seasons. Not trying to debate, just trying to say El Nino is often confused with global warming (same with heat waves). But at the same time, everything is connected...

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Posted by tangerine-jack on Sunday, January 7, 2007 4:28 PM

I very much hope to visit this year, but it depends greatly on a number of work related issues, namely a possible deployment to the middle east.  I'm going across the pond one way or another.

I haven't noticed my train time increasing or decreasing, I run year round anyway. 

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Posted by kimbrit on Sunday, January 7, 2007 4:03 PM
Hi T-Jack, not looking for a debate at all, just wondering how people are doing and whether they are getting extra train time out of it? You still on for a visit this year?
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Posted by tangerine-jack on Sunday, January 7, 2007 3:53 PM

I was out cutting the grass in short sleves today.  Although that is unusual, it's not uncommon.  I don't have the energy for another global warming debate since there is nothing I can do about it anyway.  I'm enjoying the warm spell, next month is traditionaly very cold and blustery where people complain about the record cold.  If  you look at the long term temperature averages we are tracking right down the middle of the graph.

I keep a chicken in the back yard to warn me when the sky starts to fall.  So far no warnings have been issued.

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Global warming - any effects
Posted by kimbrit on Sunday, January 7, 2007 3:18 PM

Has anybody noticed any effects yet from said warming up? Here in Blackpool we are in the depths of winter and my roses are blooming, shrubs are flowering, gladiolii are now 7" high and it's warm, well warmer than it normally is. My lawns are being taken over by a ground hugging liitle leaved plant and in all of my 55 years I've known nothing like it. How are you fairing? or is it still the usual 5' of snow? or in Ian's case 40 odd degrees of blistering sun. 

Cheers,

Kim

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