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A '45 224. I may have been converted........

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A '45 224. I may have been converted........
Posted by MadMarx on Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:34 PM

Always been a Marx fan. Left those Lionels to the Hi-rollers. And I never go to garage sales, but just happened by one early this morning and saw the folks setting up a table. A silhouette of something caught my eye, so I doubled back. There it was, with the 2466 tender. Nothing else, but for 25 bucks, I grabbed it. The thing is a 9 out of a 10. She has very little run time by looking at the tell-tales. Runs like a Swiss watch. I just love those big Baldwin drivers! If my Marx engines had faces, they were frowning a little watching it go round and round and.........Smile [:)]

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Posted by dwiemer on Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:51 PM

Congratulations!   Looks like a very nice piece.  I have the 1666 and absolutely love it.  I too never get to garage sales, as for some time, the most I found were some HOs.

Dennis

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Posted by Frank53 on Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:03 PM

very nice. The 224 is one of the smoothest runners ever.

If you want to doubel your money, I'll give you $50.00 for it and I'll pay the shipping! Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by MadMarx on Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:08 PM
Frank made a funny.   Laugh [(-D]         Happy Fathers day, anyway!  Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:13 PM

very nice right there.

 

got to love them garage sales.

i hit a few today but no train stuff, butt i found the coolest thing. You guys remeber the leg lamp from that christmas flick. "youll shoot your eye out" cant remeber the name but i scored one for 2 dollars today...sweet..

 

back on track sorry, i think that is a beautiful piece you got there.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:21 PM

A Christmas Story.  The late Jean Shepherd wrote the book and the screenplay and narrated the movie.  There's some Lionel shown in a store window, as I recall.

Bob Nelson

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:25 PM

yes your right. i couldnt remember the title....

 

i want a pink bunny suit

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:35 PM
Excellent find indeed. It does look to be in very fine shape. The drive rods are blindingly reflective.
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Posted by MadMarx on Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:43 PM

 trainsandmusic wrote:
The drive rods are blindingly reflective.

Ya think? Smile [:)]  Had to turn the flash off for the rest of the pics...

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:47 PM

nice bling bling there.....lol

 

but you know now you got to run it and let it get a littel track dust on there so it looks used and real....I think an old steamer needs to look old.....still a wonderful find

 

I love yard sales

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:39 PM

Nice find. It looks like a '46 model from your pics.

Rob

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:50 PM

Wow!  And I thought I did great when I got an HO set for a dollar at a garage sale today.  Congratulations on a very nice find!

Don't worry about disloyalty to Marx.  There is room for both in a person's life.  I have Marx and Lionel and plenty of other brands and love them all.

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Posted by MadMarx on Saturday, June 16, 2007 11:48 PM
 ADCX Rob wrote:

Nice find. It looks like a '46 model from your pics.

Rob

From Post War Lionel site,

A quick way to identify a 1945 model versus its 1946 counterpart is to view the cab floor on the back of the steam engine. The 1945 model has a floor which is 'squared-off' along the back edge -- similar to the prewar version. The 1946 model has a more rounded and elaborate cab floor.

 http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=224

This one appears to be 'squared off'.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 17, 2007 2:37 AM

 Sask_Tinplater wrote:
  There is room for both in a person's life.  I have Marx and Lionel and plenty of other brands and love them all.

 

I have a variety of trains too. 

marx

williams

lionel

and k line

 

i love them all, they all have there own unique place on my soon to be layout....

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:45 AM
Love the engine and the story of your fantastic find!

Is that K Line track you're using? I love that stuff!
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Posted by ADCX Rob on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:52 PM
 MadMarx wrote:
 ADCX Rob wrote:

Nice find. It looks like a '46 model from your pics.

Rob

From Post War Lionel site,

A quick way to identify a 1945 model versus its 1946 counterpart is to view the cab floor on the back of the steam engine. The 1945 model has a floor which is 'squared-off' along the back edge -- similar to the prewar version. The 1946 model has a more rounded and elaborate cab floor.

 http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=224

This one appears to be 'squared off'.

I don't know how you saw this in these two pics... the easier way to spot a '45 is black railings on the loco & tender.  All silver in '46.

Rob

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Posted by MadMarx on Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:15 PM
 ADCX Rob wrote:
 MadMarx wrote:
 ADCX Rob wrote:

Nice find. It looks like a '46 model from your pics.

Rob

From Post War Lionel site,

A quick way to identify a 1945 model versus its 1946 counterpart is to view the cab floor on the back of the steam engine. The 1945 model has a floor which is 'squared-off' along the back edge -- similar to the prewar version. The 1946 model has a more rounded and elaborate cab floor.

 http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=224

This one appears to be 'squared off'.

I don't know how you saw this in these two pics...  the easier way to spot a '45 is black railings on the loco & tender.  All silver in '46.

Rob

 

Huh? Am I missing something, or was the post directed to someone else? I still say it is a '45....

I've read it applied to the 1666 for identification.

 

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Posted by Big Walnut Railroader on Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:22 PM
now that is a good find!
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Posted by ADCX Rob on Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:31 PM
 MadMarx wrote:
 ADCX Rob wrote:
 MadMarx wrote:
 ADCX Rob wrote:

Nice find. It looks like a '46 model from your pics.

Rob

From Post War Lionel site,

A quick way to identify a 1945 model versus its 1946 counterpart is to view the cab floor on the back of the steam engine. The 1945 model has a floor which is 'squared-off' along the back edge -- similar to the prewar version. The 1946 model has a more rounded and elaborate cab floor.

 http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=224

This one appears to be 'squared off'.

I don't know how you saw this in these two pics... the easier way to spot a '45 is black railings on the loco & tender.  All silver in '46.

Rob

Huh? Am I missing something, or was the post directed to someone else? I still say it is a '45....

I've read it applied to the 1666 for identification.

The postwar 1666 always had a rounded cab floor.  The early '46 model had black railings.  There was no '45 1666.

The postwar 224  in '45 had a square cut cab floor and black handrails(tender too).  Also, the tender had no drawbar.

Yours has silver railings on the engine & tender.  We can't see the cab floor profile or the tender/loco connection in your pics, making it appear to be a '46 model.

Rob 

 

 

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Posted by ADCX Rob on Friday, June 22, 2007 6:56 AM

Well, that pic of the cab floor & short drawbar is of a prewar model.  Not that there's anything wrong with that at all - a great find.

Is there a hole in the floor of the tender frame just above the drawbar?  The '45 loco drawbar is supposed to fit into that hole of the '45 only black-railing 2466W, which is also supposed to have a flying-shoe coupler truck and no drawbar.

It now looks like you have a nice '41-'42 224 teamed up with a 46-49 postwar tender.

Rob

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Posted by Joe Hohmann on Friday, June 22, 2007 7:33 AM
The 224 was the first electric train I got (Christmas 1946). It was "lost" along the way, so I bought one 2 years ago for $125.. You got a great deal on a great looking/running engine. Joe
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Posted by MadMarx on Sunday, June 24, 2007 1:15 PM
 ADCX Rob wrote:

Well, that pic of the cab floor & short drawbar is of a prewar model.  Not that there's anything wrong with that at all - a great find.

Is there a hole in the floor of the tender frame just above the drawbar?  The '45 loco drawbar is supposed to fit into that hole of the '45 only black-railing 2466W, which is also supposed to have a flying-shoe coupler truck and no drawbar.

It now looks like you have a nice '41-'42 224 teamed up with a 46-49 postwar tender.

Rob

 

 

Thanks for the info... For 25 bucks, I'm sure enjoying what I have... Really looks good even if it isn't correct...

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