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Lionel 1122 switches move too slowly

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Posted by lionelsoni on Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:03 AM
Check the gears.  It's a long shot, but there might be something stuck in them.  I bought an 1122 once which wouldn't throw all the way easily.  I found a bit of metal embedded in a plastic gear, probably from the factory, since the turnout had obviously had very little use.

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Posted by Dave Farquhar on Saturday, December 9, 2006 10:08 PM
I had some 1121s with this problem, then I touched up the solder joints that go to the terminal lugs. After I did that, they snapped quickly even at relatively low settings. Maybe your 1122s need a similar tuneup. On the 1121 it was a quick and easy job.
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Posted by lionel2986 on Saturday, December 9, 2006 9:37 PM

Thanks guys. I didn’t need to take it apart (yet). I just put some oil and now I can turn the switch by hand with very little effort. I think now I have a power issue. When using the derail feature, the switch doesn’t move quick enough unless more than %50 of the transformer power is being used. I'm using a MRC Tech II transformer.  This results in a switch that is in-between straight and turn when the train is going over, so the engine derails. Is there a way to route more power to the switch, or somehow clean wires to the motor so I can get more power to the switch to increase its response time? The engine didn't have any cars behind it so maybe if I add cars it will run slower and require more power so the switch will work better. Just wondering if I can improve the switch anymore before I decide its operating like it did from the factory, and add more cars to take care of the power issue.

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Posted by lionelsoni on Saturday, December 9, 2006 9:19 AM

You can get them open, and I have done it frequently; but it's major surgery, modifies the switch permanently, and may not be necessary if you can oil it otherwise.  You have to drill out all the rivets, including the riveted post under the frog.  When you put it back together, you can drill and tap the frog for a flathead screw and replace the other rivets with screws.  File the post down so that the frog is tight against the plastic when the screw is tightened, drill and tap the frog all the way through, and then use a short enough screw to come flush with the top, instead of trying to use a bottom tap.  (For 5122s, there's a funny little rivet in the corner that needs a number-2 screw, installed from the bottom, with the nut in the channel between plastic ridges.)

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Posted by pbjwilson on Saturday, December 9, 2006 8:02 AM
  • Try spraying some WD-40 on the moving rail sections and anywhere you see rust. Put a couple drops of oil anywhere metal is rubbing on metal. Wipe off any residue and see how they operate. They will probably loosen up.
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Lionel 1122 switches move too slowly
Posted by lionel2986 on Friday, December 8, 2006 11:32 PM
Setting up the layout and have some 1122 switches. For some reason 1 or 2 of the 6 i bought switch very slowly. Just wondering if there is a typical problem that causes this? Is there a way to remove the black clover so I could clean the arm? It looks a little rusty. (not the cover where the motor and bulb are, but remove the entire bottom half of the switch) I bought these used so i dont know the history.

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