MAR Toys, New York, NY. UP Cattle Car

[lionelsoni]

I wonder whether those are all Marx. I think I might see a Lionel Lehigh Valley hopper car in the back. Nancy, do they all have the Marx couplers, flat with a V-shaped notch; or do any of them have Janney (knuckle) couplers, shaped like a fist?

[lionelsoni]

I wonder whether those are all Marx. I think I might see a Lionel Lehigh Valley hopper car in the back. Nancy, do they all have the Marx couplers, flat with a V-shaped notch; or do any of them have Janney (knuckle) couplers, shaped like a fist?

[Anonymous]

The Southern Pacific caboose has had Lionel trucks put on it and since it has been tampered with would be worth much less than the price I said. The two Santa Fe cattle cars are also Marx and are worth $10 good, $15 excellent each. The red plastic caboose should be a Marx ATSF #4427 is worth $15 god, $25 excellent. The silver three dome tank car should be Marx UTLX #284 and is worth $10 good, $15 excellent. The green Cities Service tank car is worth $5 good, $10 excellent. The Pacemaker boxcar and C&O gondola car are both of the Marx 3/16" variety. The boxcar is worth $15 good, $25 excellent if it has rivet detail on the sides and $20 good, $30 excellent without. The gondola car is worth $10-$15. The other cars I have not mentioned are all made by Lionel. They are quite common and worth apporx. $10-$15 each. When listing them on ebay I would definetly list the Lionel and Marx cars seperately. One thing to keep in mind is that the values I gave you are for cars in good or excellent condition. Any cracks, chips, rust, missing parts or tampering will lower the value. In your picture it is hard to see the condition of some of the cars because they are sitting behind others and are not clearly visible. Also being that they're quite dirty, I would dust them off so they look nice before listing them on ebay.

[Anonymous]

The Southern Pacific caboose has had Lionel trucks put on it and since it has been tampered with would be worth much less than the price I said. The two Santa Fe cattle cars are also Marx and are worth $10 good, $15 excellent each. The red plastic caboose should be a Marx ATSF #4427 is worth $15 god, $25 excellent. The silver three dome tank car should be Marx UTLX #284 and is worth $10 good, $15 excellent. The green Cities Service tank car is worth $5 good, $10 excellent. The Pacemaker boxcar and C&O gondola car are both of the Marx 3/16" variety. The boxcar is worth $15 good, $25 excellent if it has rivet detail on the sides and $20 good, $30 excellent without. The gondola car is worth $10-$15. The other cars I have not mentioned are all made by Lionel. They are quite common and worth apporx. $10-$15 each. When listing them on ebay I would definetly list the Lionel and Marx cars seperately. One thing to keep in mind is that the values I gave you are for cars in good or excellent condition. Any cracks, chips, rust, missing parts or tampering will lower the value. In your picture it is hard to see the condition of some of the cars because they are sitting behind others and are not clearly visible. Also being that they're quite dirty, I would dust them off so they look nice before listing them on ebay.

[lionelsoni]

Now that I look more closely, I can see "Lionel Lines" on a caboose and "Airex" (the Lionel brand of fishing equipment) on the blue boxcar. At first, I thought the 3-dome tank car was a Lionel 6415; but now I'm sure you're right, Mitchell.
Nancy, I like to use a (clean, dry) paintbrush for dusting, especially when there is hard-to-reach detail.

[lionelsoni]

Now that I look more closely, I can see "Lionel Lines" on a caboose and "Airex" (the Lionel brand of fishing equipment) on the blue boxcar. At first, I thought the 3-dome tank car was a Lionel 6415; but now I'm sure you're right, Mitchell.
Nancy, I like to use a (clean, dry) paintbrush for dusting, especially when there is hard-to-reach detail.

[Anonymous]

Thank you both for all the information..you're a blessing.

You're right about them being dirty..I have no idea where they were stored but they have built up fuzz balls all over.
The paint brush idea is great, I was wondering how I could gently clean them.

There are two boxes of track and 3 transformers that I'm not sure are worth anything..don't know if they work or not.

I'm also thinking when listing them that I should use MAR and MARX in the title since most rookies like me don't know about the X in the logo thing.

Sask..when you say the caboose has had Lionel trucks put on it, do you mean that they have taken the caboose itself off the original bed/flatcar (?) and wheels and put it on a Lionel set? I don't want to misrepresent the cars to anyone.

[Anonymous]

Thank you both for all the information..you're a blessing.

You're right about them being dirty..I have no idea where they were stored but they have built up fuzz balls all over.
The paint brush idea is great, I was wondering how I could gently clean them.

There are two boxes of track and 3 transformers that I'm not sure are worth anything..don't know if they work or not.

I'm also thinking when listing them that I should use MAR and MARX in the title since most rookies like me don't know about the X in the logo thing.

Sask..when you say the caboose has had Lionel trucks put on it, do you mean that they have taken the caboose itself off the original bed/flatcar (?) and wheels and put it on a Lionel set? I don't want to misrepresent the cars to anyone.

[Anonymous]

I hate to be a pest but I have another question. If you were selling them...after keeping the Lionel and the Marx cars seperate, would you list them individually, or group like cars..or mix them up?

[Anonymous]

I hate to be a pest but I have another question. If you were selling them...after keeping the Lionel and the Marx cars seperate, would you list them individually, or group like cars..or mix them up?

[Anonymous]

What I would do is sell the Marx cars in one group and the Lionel cars in another group. I've seen people who have a large amount of trains and list them each seperately. The better cars sell and no one bids on the very common items. On the SP caboose what it appears to me is that someone took off the 4 original wheels and put on Lionel trucks (trucks is the term for sets of 4 wheels on a train car). It also looks like someone added railings on the ends of it. As for the track and transformers I would perhaps list them together seperately. They will not sell very high though. Only some very good large transformers sell for high prices and also there is the possibility that they don't work. If the track is rusty it definetly won't go too high. The reason items like these aren't worth much is because everybody has them. All train sets had track and transformers with them, so they're in abundant supply. It's surprising how fast you accumulate track when you collect trains. I have my train layout built, so I don't need any more track. Right now I have a large box that is packed with piles of extra track. If you list the track and transformers in a lot seperate from the trains then someone who wants them will buy it. The other lots won't go higher because there's track included (unless there's a huge amount of it).

[Anonymous]

What I would do is sell the Marx cars in one group and the Lionel cars in another group. I've seen people who have a large amount of trains and list them each seperately. The better cars sell and no one bids on the very common items. On the SP caboose what it appears to me is that someone took off the 4 original wheels and put on Lionel trucks (trucks is the term for sets of 4 wheels on a train car). It also looks like someone added railings on the ends of it. As for the track and transformers I would perhaps list them together seperately. They will not sell very high though. Only some very good large transformers sell for high prices and also there is the possibility that they don't work. If the track is rusty it definetly won't go too high. The reason items like these aren't worth much is because everybody has them. All train sets had track and transformers with them, so they're in abundant supply. It's surprising how fast you accumulate track when you collect trains. I have my train layout built, so I don't need any more track. Right now I have a large box that is packed with piles of extra track. If you list the track and transformers in a lot seperate from the trains then someone who wants them will buy it. The other lots won't go higher because there's track included (unless there's a huge amount of it).

[Anonymous]

Thank you so much for all your help. I'll be listing the train cars in the next few days. I don't know if it's allowed here but they'll be under njg55 on ebay.

First off...clean clean clean...

Nancy

[Anonymous]

Thank you so much for all your help. I'll be listing the train cars in the next few days. I don't know if it's allowed here but they'll be under njg55 on ebay.

First off...clean clean clean...

Nancy

[Anonymous]

oops..I guess I put something in the reply that isn't allowed.

I just want to thank both of you for all your help. I stored all the info since I can't trust my memory and I'll be listing the train cars in the next few days.

First off...clean clean clean...

Thanks again..

Nancy

[Anonymous]

oops..I guess I put something in the reply that isn't allowed.

I just want to thank both of you for all your help. I stored all the info since I can't trust my memory and I'll be listing the train cars in the next few days.

First off...clean clean clean...

Thanks again..

Nancy

[Anonymous]

oh dear..sorry for the double post...my blonde is showing today. Didn't realize there were two pages. I'll be ok though..as soon as they bring my meds. ;-)

[Anonymous]

oh dear..sorry for the double post...my blonde is showing today. Didn't realize there were two pages. I'll be ok though..as soon as they bring my meds. ;-)

[marxman]

Regarding the MARX six-inch cattle car; it is the sides that are slotted or not that make the difference in value. All of the cattle car doors are slotted, but only a few of the cattle car sides are slotted, the rest just have white stripes to simulate slots.

[marxman]

Regarding the MARX six-inch cattle car; it is the sides that are slotted or not that make the difference in value. All of the cattle car doors are slotted, but only a few of the cattle car sides are slotted, the rest just have white stripes to simulate slots.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cooky1942

Thank you so much for all your help. I'll be listing the train cars in the next few days. I don't know if it's allowed here but they'll be under njg55 on ebay.

First off...clean clean clean...

Nancy

I'd like to see them on ebay. Could you say when you list them and what the title for them is?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cooky1942

Thank you so much for all your help. I'll be listing the train cars in the next few days. I don't know if it's allowed here but they'll be under njg55 on ebay.

First off...clean clean clean...

Nancy

I'd like to see them on ebay. Could you say when you list them and what the title for them is?

[Anonymous]

I'll post it here when I list them. I'll probably list them in pairs of a desirable one with a not so desirable one unless someone has a better idea? Or the more desirable ones with the same kind? Mix them up? I'm open to all suggestions.
Nancy

[Anonymous]

I'll post it here when I list them. I'll probably list them in pairs of a desirable one with a not so desirable one unless someone has a better idea? Or the more desirable ones with the same kind? Mix them up? I'm open to all suggestions.
Nancy

[Anonymous]

That's one idea of how to list them, but you would probably be better off selling them in larger lots. I mentioned this before, but your best bet would be to sell all of the Marx cars in one big lot and all of the Lionel cars in another lot. Many people wouldn't want to bother bidding on just two cars as opposed to a lot of several cars. As an ebayer myself I can tell you that there would be more interest if they were sold in the way I mentioned. The worst thing you could do would be to sell the Lionel and Marx together because there are less collectors of both brands than there are of each one. Also, you mentioned before that you would also include the name Mar in your description besides Marx. There's no need to because the people who buy these trains on ebay are collectors who know their stuff. There are actally specific sub-categories under O Scale in the Model Train section of ebay for Lionel and Marx. Also, under Lionel there are further sub-categories. The one you should list your Lionel items under would be 1945-69.

[Anonymous]

That's one idea of how to list them, but you would probably be better off selling them in larger lots. I mentioned this before, but your best bet would be to sell all of the Marx cars in one big lot and all of the Lionel cars in another lot. Many people wouldn't want to bother bidding on just two cars as opposed to a lot of several cars. As an ebayer myself I can tell you that there would be more interest if they were sold in the way I mentioned. The worst thing you could do would be to sell the Lionel and Marx together because there are less collectors of both brands than there are of each one. Also, you mentioned before that you would also include the name Mar in your description besides Marx. There's no need to because the people who buy these trains on ebay are collectors who know their stuff. There are actally specific sub-categories under O Scale in the Model Train section of ebay for Lionel and Marx. Also, under Lionel there are further sub-categories. The one you should list your Lionel items under would be 1945-69.

[Anonymous]

Gothcha now...lol. I knew better than to list Marx with Lionel but misunderstood the big lots thing. Question>>> by listing them that way..what would be a good starting price? Or does it matter? I know lots of things have a low starting price and let the bidders bid it up.

[Anonymous]

Gothcha now...lol. I knew better than to list Marx with Lionel but misunderstood the big lots thing. Question>>> by listing them that way..what would be a good starting price? Or does it matter? I know lots of things have a low starting price and let the bidders bid it up.

[Anonymous]

A low starting price may not be a bad idea. I wouldn't put the the full value as the minimum. The values I quoted you on these items are the official book values, however, I don't think that your cars will sell for the full prices I mentioned. You should get a good price on them, though. If you look under O Scale: Marx you will find that there are an awful lot of cars listed individually and while most of them have low prices on them, almost no one is bidding on them. Big lots are the way to go. There is much more interest in them. I also wouldn't recommend that you put in a reserve. Often a reserve will scare people away from bidding on an item unless it's something that's extremely desireable and valuable. When you list something on ebay what it sells for can be hard to say. It all just depends on how many people want to bid on it that day. One week, something might sell for far below it's value and another wekk it could sell for a very high price. You just never know until the end. Good luck in selling your trains and may they go for a good price!

[Anonymous]

A low starting price may not be a bad idea. I wouldn't put the the full value as the minimum. The values I quoted you on these items are the official book values, however, I don't think that your cars will sell for the full prices I mentioned. You should get a good price on them, though. If you look under O Scale: Marx you will find that there are an awful lot of cars listed individually and while most of them have low prices on them, almost no one is bidding on them. Big lots are the way to go. There is much more interest in them. I also wouldn't recommend that you put in a reserve. Often a reserve will scare people away from bidding on an item unless it's something that's extremely desireable and valuable. When you list something on ebay what it sells for can be hard to say. It all just depends on how many people want to bid on it that day. One week, something might sell for far below it's value and another wekk it could sell for a very high price. You just never know until the end. Good luck in selling your trains and may they go for a good price!