Scout 246 with lever side / side, not front / back ?

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Scout 246 with lever side / side, not front / back ?
Posted by exdirtbiker on Saturday, April 20, 2019 7:35 AM

Is this a "rare item" .. or just another one of millions?

( working on inserting photo)

Thanks !

 

 

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Posted by rrinker on Monday, April 22, 2019 6:48 PM

 Would you know, I pretty much never come over here, but there was an electrical question someone had in the MR forums on using controls for 3 rail, and I see this post. I have my Dad's old Scout outfit, I'm not sure of the number, I'd have to get it out and check what the locoo is, but it definitely has a side to side E-unit lever. What I know abooout 'collectible' stuff would fit in a thimble, I set these things up and run them now and then, not store them away to stare out, but I doubt this is something really rare. Only because I NEVER have the special 'rare' version of anything. 

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Posted by teledoc on Monday, April 22, 2019 10:03 PM

Without a a photo we can’t help to identify it.  Is the body plastic or die cast metal.  The side/side lever is indicative of a die cast shell, and not the plastic shells.  Are you 100% positive it is a true 246, and not a die cast she’ll, of Scout design, that has been renumbered.  Need some answers!!

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Posted by Penny Trains on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:37 PM

The standard configuration had the plastic lever going front to back:

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:50 PM

Thank you, Becky !

I've been thinking about this. This classic 246 from '59 to '61 is the one we think of when you say 246. This engine is all plastic.

When I google Lionel 246 I realized this number has been reused on newer engines, so we might not be talking about the same engine. Does your engine look like this picture ?

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:30 PM

 Does your 246 look like this ?

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 8:33 PM

 She has a plastic boiler. Same, or different ? How so ?

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Posted by teledoc on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:11 AM

My thought on the E unit lever has to be a Die Cast Shell/body, that has been renumbered to 246.  If the 246 is a Postwar locomotive, All the 246’s were plastic bodied, with the front/back 2 position E units.  I think a photo would clear things up.

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Posted by exdirtbiker on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 6:22 AM

Thanks for your help, been busy for a while...

Upon further review... the hole for the sideways E lever is hand-cut.

So I guess it's a re-body?  it weighs signifantly more than the other 2 Scouts I have.

And it has a pickup in the tender.  and weights in front and under cab.  WHere did the motor come from ?

Here's some pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SzkYVUewzqC2g8Sr5

Thank for your help !

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Posted by teledoc on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:16 PM

The body is an original 246 plastic loco, that someone replaced the plastic Scout motor, with what is referred to as a parallel plate 027 motor, which weighs more than the plastic motor.  Many people struggle to repair the plastic Scout motors, which are a little tricky to fix.  With some modifications to the 246, someone just adapted the better motor, to restore it back to running condition.

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Posted by Penny Trains on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 7:11 PM

That would be my guess as well.  Motors are easy to find at train shows but then again so are loco shells.  It could have even been the opposite way around, someone bought a 246 shell to go with a motor they already had.

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Posted by Postwar Paul on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:24 PM

Very nice ! 

You have a custom engine.

246 shell, metal scout motor.

mystery solved !

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Posted by exdirtbiker on Friday, April 26, 2019 7:56 PM

Thanks to everyone !!!

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