What is that engine in new issue?

[Anonymous]

I was wondering if anybody knows what the grey engine is called?  It is pulling the blue passanger cars on page 69 (top) of the new ctt issue?  What year and no. etc....?

I used to play with that engine on my paps dresser when I was a kid. I forgot about it until I saw that picture. I used to think it was funny looking or broken because of the flat top and no smoke stack!

[Chris F]

That's a Pennsylvania RR "Torpedo", either 1668 (2-4-2) or 1688 (2-6-2).  Gunmetal gray versions were cataloged about 1937-38.

I suspect Keith (1688torpedo) might have something to add.

[Anonymous]

Cool!

Thanks for the info. I wonder if someone in the family still has it. Since I have memories of it and all.

[DMUinCT]

Looking it up in the Catalog: (1923 to 1942)

The "O-27 gauge" version of the Pennsy Torpedo enterd the market in 1936 as #1688 a 2-4-2 in gray (the catalog shows it in brown?). In 1937 the catalog proclaimed "New Six-Wheeled Drivers", it was now #1668, a 2-6-2.  From 1939 to the end of production in 1941 shows it as a 2-6-2 in black.

The "O gauge" #607 short passenger cars were first cataloged in 1926 and ran untill 1937 in various paint.

Both the locomotives and the cars were used in lots of un-cataloged sets and as single sale items.  They do look good togeather!

[Anonymous]

Wow! Thanks for the info DMUinCT, good stuff.

I think prewar trains are very nice and special in a nostelgic kinda way.  Thats all I need to do...start collecting all the era's of lionel.

[1688torpedo]

 Hello All!     I just saw the new CTT & the Engine in question is most certainly a 1668 which happens to be the first Lionel Engine ever that used Six Drive Wheels & came out the year before the famous #700E in 1936. You guys did not seem too sure if it was a 1688 or a 1668 judging by your replies. You must have fallen asleep in class. Therefore, you will be subject to a Diet of Grits & Cheese every day for a whole year Followed by Lima Beans for the second year. Take Care all.     P.S.    DMU Cheated by looking up the answer. Therefore, he gets a double portion of Grit's,Cheese, & Lima Beans

[Anonymous]

I'll take DMU's portion of lima beans...He took the time to help me out by looking it up.

p.s. I'm a vegetarian..........so I like lima beans.

[magicman710]

I'll certainly take the grits and cheese Keith!!! LOL!!!!

[1688torpedo]

 Hello All!   Grayson- You enjoy G-R-I-T-S  way too much Take Care.