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Anyone else find the Lionel Display at York weird ??????

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Posted by fifedog on Monday, April 23, 2007 9:46 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Oustanding rebuttal, 88.
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Posted by njalb1 on Monday, April 23, 2007 9:17 PM
I have been banned from York for my photographic memory !
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Posted by rthomps on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:10 AM

To address the original question here:  In a succinct word...NO.  Cool [8D]

The Lionel exhibit was certainly not weird.  Blindfold [X-)]

My take is that Lionel's emphasis has, if you will, "moved beyond" the York-type show.  (Others have posted about this, e.g., Neil, and I very much agree....)  After the October '06 York, I posted on various forums (fora??) that Jerry C. had made a major mistake in not attending that York.  Well, he wasn't present again this York.  I didn't like it, but his absence fits carefully with Lionel's strategy.  (BTW, look for EVERYONE from Lionel to be at York in October--but for a different reason.)  MTH is spending beaucoup $$ on the York show preaching to the company's followers.  Seems as if Lionel has a different (and so far successful) strategy.

Did I write that I'm still unhappy that JC wasn't present???  Bow [bow]

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Posted by rthomps on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:16 AM

 

 "First of all I looked for the Christmas catalog and was told that they had none?"

 

You didn't look too carefully or too far.  Lionel had the Christmas catalog on display on Thursday along with their other catalogs.

BTW, some nice items for around the tree in '07.

Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by Jumijo on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:43 AM
 rthomps wrote:
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(BTW, look for EVERYONE from Lionel to be at York in October--but for a different reason.) ...

Legacy public unveiling.  

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:51 AM
Jim,
The display Lionel had seemed to be very SUBDUED, almost like they were trying to hide and NOT be noticed.  When we heard that Legacy had been delayed till October, that kind of made me think that the October display MAY just have the appearance of a Detroit Auto Show unveiling... I have a feeling the October layout will be one that is capable of displaying how the Legacy control system is far superior to anything on the market today... could be a very fun show.
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Posted by Jumijo on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:57 AM

I think you're right, Brent. They will make a huge splash in October when they show off the Legacy system. And what better place than York to show off a product like that? But on the whole, I think Lionel is now marketing to a different crowd than the typical York attendee. They seem to have come across a strong winning strategy by marketing to the seasonal and beginner train buyer.

Jim 

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Posted by trigtrax on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:05 AM

They will make a huge splash in October when they show off the Legacy system.

From the Musical Annie. "The sun will come out tomorrow"

Nobody knows if Legacy will come out in October and nobody knows how big a "Splash" it will make. Rumor is Neil Young wants to do a concert at York for Legacy. Nobody knows if they will allow that.

I've heard a rumor Lionel is planning to make battery powered trains with plastic tracks. For what it's worth they might as well start making Espresso Machines. That would also be marketing to a different group. The Hobby is O-Gauge trains, not the financial well being of Lionel LLC. If Lionel wants to abandon it's core business why cheer about it?

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Posted by Jumijo on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:12 AM

Lionel is making battery powered trains that run on plastic tracks - in G scale. From what I've seen, they are pretty nice versions of the General. I might buy one for the yard.

Jim 

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Posted by njalb1 on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:19 AM
 rthomps wrote:

 

 "First of all I looked for the Christmas catalog and was told that they had none?"

 

You didn't look too carefully or too far.  Lionel had the Christmas catalog on display on Thursday along with their other catalogs.

BTW, some nice items for around the tree in '07.

Laugh [(-D]

Yes they had ONE for all the thosands attending Banged Head [banghead]

I was there all day on Thursday and they said that they forgot to bring them ?????
  They took a tie wrap and put ONE on display for thousands to look at Oops [oops]Oops [oops]
  I checked all day and they NEVER got them to hand out ???

 

 

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Posted by nblum on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:25 AM

"The Hobby is O-Gauge trains, not the financial well being of Lionel LLC. If Lionel wants to abandon it's core business why cheer about it?"

Let's see, here's a two hundred page, give or take,  catalog this year with one battery powered train.  It is interesting that a tiny minority in the hobby interprets this as Lionel abandoning its core business Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]. 

 

Personally I think the hobby should revolve around what I want tooCaptain [4:-)].

Neil (not Besougloff or Young) :)
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Posted by okiechoochoo on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:59 AM

 MartyE wrote:
Broadway Limited...LOL

 Broadway Limiteds Zephyr passengers are the best I have ever seen done in plastic.  Hardly something I would laugh at.  The truth is, much innovation is coming into HO and N scales from the former designers and such from O guage.  It only makes since, because HO and N are the largest two scales in popularity, bar none.

All Lionel all the time.

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Posted by DMUinCT on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:12 AM

P.S., My Lionel "Christmas Celebration 2007" catalog was in my mail box when I got home from York.  

"O" gauge still has the "Polar Express" and a "North Pole Central" sets. Added this year is the Simi-Scale Mikado in red or green.

"G" gauge has again the "Holiday Traditions Express", but have added a "Polar Express" with a 2-8-2) and a General (4-4-0) powered "Snowman Express", both battery powered (9 volt) and have radio control.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:42 AM
For my part, I demand to know when Lionel is going to resume production of that full-sized "backyard boat" set they made in the Sixties. I have waited far too long.
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Posted by Santa Fe Kent on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:03 PM
I want to know why someone would order a lavendar car?? That is weird....
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Posted by njalb1 on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:39 PM

 Santa Fe Kent wrote:
I want to know why someone would order a lavendar car?? That is weird....

I want to know why you need to know ! What nerve Angry [:(!]

  I ordered both the add on cars for my grandaughters girls train set !

Is that ok with YOU Oops [oops]

 

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Posted by Santa Fe Kent on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:02 AM

Well.... okay. As long as you didn't order it for yourself!

 

Didn't mean to get you hot, sorry! But it does strike me as odd that they actually make this stuff. Kudo's to anyone that can admit in public that they buy it! Yu Da Man!

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:10 AM
 njalb1 wrote:

 Santa Fe Kent wrote:
I want to know why someone would order a lavendar car?? That is weird....

I want to know why you need to know ! What nerve Angry [:(!]

  I ordered both the add on cars for my grandaughters girls train set !

Is that ok with YOU Oops [oops]

 



WOW!  That's one Mickey Mouse Train Collection!  Wink [;)] Laugh [(-D] Sorry njalb!  Couldn't resist.  Looks like your granddaughter has many years of fun ahead of her!  Hopefully she likes it and keeps it all!
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Posted by njalb1 on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:59 PM
 lionroar88 wrote:
 njalb1 wrote:

 Santa Fe Kent wrote:
I want to know why someone would order a lavendar car?? That is weird....

I want to know why you need to know ! What nerve Angry [:(!]

  I ordered both the add on cars for my grandaughters girls train set !

Is that ok with YOU Oops [oops]

 



WOW!  That's one Mickey Mouse Train Collection!  Wink [;)] Laugh [(-D] Sorry njalb!  Couldn't resist.  Looks like your granddaughter has many years of fun ahead of her!  Hopefully she likes it and keeps it all!

 

 

Brent thanks for the nice reply !!!    Al

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:32 AM
Al,
My wife gives me a hard time (all in fun) about my train collecting.  After the York show she was going through everything and she looks over and says, 'You know when we have kids and they are old enough, I think you should let them choose 1 set from the catalog and buy it for them.'  I was stunned.  Originally the plan was to break up the collection amongst the kids (if they want it), now the plan is to buy them each a set of their choosing, so they will have 'their own first set' and then let them chose what they want from Dad's collection.  I think I like that idea!

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