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G'day Gents!
A pleasant Saturday here at the Saloon by the Siding as we've had just a bit more activity than figured on. That's good! I'm hoping Ruth is enjoying here day off with pay while I "slave" here behind the bar. <grin> Offered the same to Leon, but as many of you know, he thinks of this place as "home" and prefers work to idle time. Anyway, Boris is much more manageable with Leon ‘round the place!
Am I the only one who spotted passengerfan Al on this Forum, but NOT here The more things change, the more the stay the same. Go figger. Guess he's a former customer, eh Too bad - life goes on.
So, where are we Ah yes, the acknowledgments!
Doug at 12:26 PM today: Twice in one day, haven't seen that from you in several days. Better watch it, you'll soon have us spoiled! <grin>
I'm really not that well versed regarding all that railroading was and is for the area I reside in. However, I'll surely have sufficient things lined up for us to do during the 2007 2nd Annual Rendezvous in St. Louis. Count on it! Chicago is hands down the bar better area for the experience of riding and watching passenger trains, which of course is what we emphasize ‘round here. Really looking beyond this year and hope we'll have the bar in operation ‘til then.
As Pete ‘n I traveled northward to the area just outside of Chicago's Union Station, we saw an Amtrak baggage car, one of those 1700 series that I believe were former Heritage fleet cars. Looked to be in poor shape though. My Can-Am RR has one of ‘em that I use with a consist of Superliners. Looks great!
Your entry for the baggage car was not only an appropriate submission, but enjoyable too!
James at 12:31 PM today: Better watch it young man - I'm not Ruth!! <grin> Been mistaken for all kinds of people and parts of anatomy, but never a great looking redheaded gal!
Pretty nice stuff from you today and thanx for the elaboration on that Milwaukee Road obs I asked about. Also good stuff on the Hiawathas!
Pete at 2:37 PM today: A rather rare Saturday afternoon visit from the Wolfman! Last week at this time we were assessing the damages ‘round here and walking "the beast" through the wilds of our sub-division! My oh my how time doth fly, eh
Perhaps one day the four of us will travel to Alaska for that marvelous rail adventure aboard the Alaska Railroad. It's indeed quite the treat and something that we shall always remember with nothing but positive thoughts. For me, the Alaska beer aboard the train in our below level "private" dining area was the "icing" on the cake, so to speak. You and I would definitely get into serious difficulty aboard that train! <grin>
Hmmmm, you just MAY be on to something there - Ruth AND Lars, both gone at the same time!! BUT, wait a sec - I gave her the day off without being asked. Hmmmmmm. Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting.
Regarding that ENCORE! - methinks I'd much prefer the 8 hours aboard the Glasgow bound train rather than one where the time was reduced. After all, isn't it all about being aboard Youbetcha!
I like those "ads" where timetables are included. Really gives a much deeper perspective to it all. And for you, remembrances as well, eh
Catch y'all later (maybe) - tomorrow fer sure, fer sure! Oh yes, heard from trolleyboy Rob via Email and he passes his regards to the gang. Especially liked that "report" from Shane, as I had Emailed it to him - trying to keep him "connected." His difficulties with getting onto the Forums continues. Totally unacceptable and ridiculous, dontchathink
Tom
A round for the house Tom
First main line diesel leaving London for test run January.15,1948
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Golden Spike Centennial Limited
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Long Island Rail Road
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Alco FA2
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Freedom Train PA1
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Santa Fe PA2
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Canadian National FPA4
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Rock Island DL109
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New York Central Rocket RDC
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Hiawatha
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C&O 2-6-6-6
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George Armstrong Custer and veterans of the War of 1812. His father Emanuel Custer (wearing a white jacket) sits front and center. The 2 oldest men in the photo were born before the Declaration of Independence. June 15, 1871
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General Jackson, the first President to ride a train
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B&O in 1857
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4-8-2 Washington 1932
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Electromotive Chicago 1939
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Great steam pic
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Mike
Hi Lars and everyone else!
Glad your son was waiting. Sounds like in all the trip came out on the plus, and I was relieved when your story got to the point where the wallet was found!
Didn't spend any time in Platsburg, but did spend some time in Scroon Lake. Once recorded some summer concerts in the "Boat House" which was setup as an informal concert hall. This was before Amtrak. Went up to Whitehall on the Laurentian, rented a car, and returned on the Montreal LImited in a roomette. Good service in those days!
Good morning one and all, and are we ready for some football? I swear, the time before the big game is just like the day before Christmas, where you anticipate whether you'll be getting something good ... or not! Oh yeah, I'll have the tailgaters special, which I'll be cooking for ya'll today in honor of the Bears' homefield advantage. Too early for brats?
Quite a day here yesterday, I think. Glad you liked the Pickle Wreck series James. I surely enjoyed your Hiawatha submission. As you know, Union Station still runs Hiawathas today, but they, like most modern trains, have lost their distinctive appearance over the years. Nice 1933 UP ad from Tom yesterday. Low fares in tough times for a lot of people. My dad tells me that gas was 5 cents a gallon (we paid $1.98 yesterday), but who could afford it? Another story he tells is that my grandfather could only afford one shotgun shell a week, which he would use to hunt squirrels, and this was in Monticello Illinois!
Mighty good to see Pete yesterday, and he may be onto something with the coincidental absence of Lars and Ruth. Hmmm. Interesting comparison on time table between pre WWI schedules and those of today. I'll bet, that given the option between fast travel and slower travel with special services, that people would generally opt for faster travel. I sort of feel that way myself, when I compare the costs and time associated with rail travel to airline travel, rail takes more of both.
Glad ya'll liked the baggage smasher. Remember the commercial with the gorilla throwing a Samsonite bag around his cage? All baggage "handlers" are just like that. I've also seen employees at Menards and Home Depot who chuckle when they stupidly knock merchandise off a pallet or shelf. "Workers" like that make me grimace, but even more so the ones who destroy merchandise intentionally. I guess I'll have to take those thoughts to the punching bags in the Rats Patoot room.
Appreciate the support for the "good guys" today Eric! Hey Dave Klepper ... want some brats?
Since I missed the B&O theme day, these are my pix for today.
At the turn of the century if you were taking the night cars of the Baltimore & Ohio for Chicago or St. Louis or even New York which was then a short sleeper hop, you finished a leisurely dinner off diamond back terrapin in Maryland sauce and vintage Maderia at Harvey's Restaurant, climbed into a growler or hansom from the cab rank outside at the corner of Eleventh and Pennsylvania Avenue, and drove decorously through the twilight to the B&O's sedate and equally leisurely conducted Washington terminal. Much of history rode the blue Pullmans of the B&O to and from this almost pastoral setting in a less urgent Washington than the Federal City was ever to be again.
One of the celebrated railroad stations of the world, ranking in renown with Euston Station, London, scene of so many Sherlock Holmes' departures, the Gare du Nord in Paris, and the feudal fortress of the Pennsylvania at Broad Street, Philadelphia, the Baltimore & Ohio's Mount Royal Depot at Baltimore never moved out of the nineteenth century and nobody wanted it to. Derived from an age when horse cabs were the accepted agency of local transport and its primordial steam radiators, rocking chairs and folksy atmosphere generally maintained continuity with yesterday even as Diesel power snarled in the covered train outside.
In the year 1896 when F.W. Blauvelt took this photograph of this train with the caption: "The Royal Blue Line Limited at the Speed of Fifty-five Miles an Hour". The Royal Blue Line was a combination of the Baltimore & Ohio, The Philadelphia & Reading and The Central Railroad of New Jersey running six trains a day between New York and Washington. The fastest of these was on a five-hour schedule, which was uncommonly fast for the time. Known as The Royal Blue Trains, the best were No. 511 and 512 which carried Pullman cars, among them the truly eye-popping Countess from the Chicago World's Fair, and a diner and made an irreducible number of stops en route.
From Jersey City to Bound Brook they went over the Central of New Jersey and via the Reading from Bound Brook to Wayne Junction and thence to Washington on the Baltimore & Ohio's own iron. Reading engines usually took the flyers between Jersey City and Philadelphia and the high stepping camelback in the picture. No. 385 bear the initials "P&R" on its tender. All Pullman equipment bore on its nameboards the state seal of one of the commonwealths through which it operated. The picture below is a B&O traingate in Washington Union Station and its guard in 1905.
Down around the depot when the trains come in had its fascinations in any century, but the B&O classification yards at Baltimore in 1910 still had about them much the same atmosphere as when troop trains were being made up for Gettysburg. In the same year the interior of Tower K in the yards at Washington, although possessed of the latest thing in interlocking devices, was characterized by much of the rustic flavor of a country store where the rustics assembled to discuss the relative merits of James G. Blaine and Grover Cleveland on the basis of the Mulligan letters.
Before the present Union Depot in Washington absorbed the B&O, its own yards were permeated with the flavor of yesterday. The yard worker shown throwing a primeval switch on the main line.
A handsome young man and a beautiful girl met and it was love at first sight. They immediately got married and went on their honeymoon. On their wedding night, the bride went into the bathroom to freshen up.
Unfortunately, she had a case of bad breath so severe she had to take a powerful drug to control it. She was about to take the drug when she decided it would be best to let her husband in on her secret since they would be spending the rest of their lives together.
So she returned to bed without taking the drug.
Her husband then went into the bathroom to freshen up. He also had a problem with foot odor so offensive it required a special preparation to keep it under control. He was about to apply the preparation when he decided it would be better to let his wife know about his problem because she would find out about it sooner or later anyway.
He skipped applying the preparation, returned to bed, grabbed his wife and gave her a big kiss.
She said, "Honey, there's something I have to tell you."
"OK," he said, "but I already know what it is ... you ate my socks."
Even though the bar at "Our" Place is
CLOSED on Sundays -
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!
Yes, we are CLOSED at the bar, however, the traditional BREAKFAST - BRUNCH - LUNCH ‘til 2 PM continues. So give Boris your order and hope for the best! <grin>
And, you can still slip your messages and Pix through the mail slots on either set of front doors if you find them locked!
Arose to a snow covered wonderland ‘round these parts and Juneau is in his element fer sure, fer sure! Only picked up about 2 inches of it, as they had predicted far more. But as seems to be the "norm" here in mid-continent USA, these events skirt the area more times than not. Anyway, we're thankful for small favors and the 1 mile trek ‘round the wilds of the subdivision was a joyous time for the Husky from Hades! <grin>
A few acknowledgments, then I'll set about putting together my "stuff" for this day. Don't want to interfere with the NFL Playoffs!
Mike at 6:43 PM yesterday: In a listing that grew ‘n grew each time I looked at it, some mighty fine perusals via URLs. Always apprecicate PAs - FAs ‘n the "jet powered" RDC. Something for all . . .
Eric at 1:52 AM yesterday: Always look forward to viewing what our "resident desert Swede" has for us and this day was no disappointment! Good to see ya and yes, I was fast asleep. Not at the "wheel" though, would never let that happen, but Leon had all in good order. Ruth ‘n Lars Whowuddathunkit <grin>
You are so correct about baggage "handling" by the airlines folks. You DON'T wanna see it!! Unfortunately, the ones who don't give a Rat's Patoot about exercising care give a black eye to the majority of the people who do their jobs properly. Isn't that always the way Youbetcha!
We have some refineries not far from here over on the Illinois side of the mighty Mississippi, ergo lower prices I presume. Fluctuates like the wind and it's become a way of life throughout our country to fill ‘er up when the price is right, eh
Thanx for the confirmation on the 1700 series of baggage cars. "Somewhere" in my "think tank" I recalled them being former Heritage stock, maybe read it in association with the materials that came with my model. At any rate, they are fine looking cars and didn't look all that bad with the Superliners in spite of the height differential. At least Amtrak ensured the livery matched up.
Dave at 6:12 AM today: Back again, eh Well, that's a good sign. In time you'll get the routine figured out, it's not all that complex. We try to intersperse serious talk of Classic Trains with some levity (actually, lots of it!). Our "Cast of Characters" aren't that difficult to spot, as they'll find YOU!
Lars isn't expected back ‘til tomorrow, but I'm sure he'll pick up on your comments.
Doug at 7:27 AM today: Many thanx for kicking off the daylight Sunday Photo Posting Day! with yet another fine spate of vintage Pix and narratives! Joke Did you tell a joke Mustamissedit! <grin>
With snow in Chicago, perhaps the boyz from New Orleans may find things just a tad more difficult for them as they try to shackle Da Bears - GO BEARS!
Brats, did you mention BRATS Cooked in beer, of course, eh Sure, fire up the grill and let's party!
Baggage handlers and others who "handle" things not their own can really ruin someone else's day, eh I remember one time as we were taking on "stores" for a patrol of about 5 weeks at sea, some of the guys were throwing the boxes to one another as opposed to passing it. Made for an unhappy day for them when the cooks got ahold of ‘em. They worked off that "extra duty" in the galley during times when the ship was encountering the roughest of seas. Taught ‘em a lesson, fer sure, fer sure.
I'll be back later on with the Emporium movie slate for the week!
Reminder: Tomorrow, Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Boris, serve ‘em all of the OJ they can handle!
Howdy again folks, and hope your day is going well. It's snowing in Chicagoland, and as Tom pointed-out, let's hope that gives the Bears an advantage. We'll take help from wherever we can get it!
Of course I have brats cooked in beer, and they're not just regular brats, they're Sheboygan brats. For those who don't know what I'm talking about:
brat-wurstPronunciation: brät' wûrst (also brat- also -vû(r)st sometimes - vusht) Function: nounEtymology (brat-): German, from Old High German bratwurst abbreviated to brat, from brat meat without waste + wurst sausage Date: circa 18881: Only the best fresh pork sausage ever tasted, made right in Sheboygan, WI, for frying, grilling, cooking, roasting, and many other tasty delights.
As we are playing the Saints today, we'll be having Cajun brats!
Just cook ‘em up and plunk one inside a warm and fresh-baked bun from the Mentor Village Bakery, and don't spare the condiments. You'll get a grin that doesn't know where to begin! No ketchup gentlemen. This is Chicago. Ketchup is for burgers and cheeseburgers only. And now ...let's move into the B&O Pullman diner for our feast!
Spotless summer whites for members of the staff characterized B&O diners circa 1910.
Elaborately carved mahogany breakfronts concealed the steward's stock of bottled goods.
The Baltimore & Ohio's all-Pullman Fort Hill on the Pittsburgh-Chicago overnight run, like the New Haven's Owl over the Shore Line between New York and Boston and several of the connecting trains between St. Louis and Chicago, ran the full distance under what amounted to slow orders in an effort to use up its carded time. Unlike The Owl, Night Diamond and Silent Knight, however, it carried a full compliment of luxury equipment. Almost surely it was the only overnight on an intermediate distance to boast a barber and lady's maid, showers for both sexes and a manicurist. The B&O had style and to spare in the twenties. The utilitarian properties of The Fort Pitt's lady's retiring room aboard its Pullman Standard sleepers were not sybaritic, but the travel attire of its passengers in the early 1920s make it a stunning period piece in the record of luxury transport.
The congealing cold on the Lake Michigan water-front can almost be sensed, together with the sounds and very smells of Chicago railroading in mid-winter of 1930 when Alfred W. Johnson took this stunning rear-end view of The Capitol Limited, double headed, from Roosevelt Road bridge as it headed eastbound out of Chicago yards. Ice amidst the pilings, snow on the guard rails and the frozen calm of the Chicago River set a mood of melancholy splendor for a great train operation in the golden age of Pullman.
In the Roaring Thirties when the national economy of boom and bust was reflected in railroad earnings and operations alike, the Baltimore & Ohio's fast daylight run between Washington and its New Jersey terminal, The Columbian, carried coaches, a diner and solarium lounge, all the amenities of a first class train on an intermediate run without de luxe overtones. The fast ride could be a rough one because of its numerous curves, but there were still loyal B&O partisans who preferred the inconvenience of a bus ride through Holland Tunnel to the impersonal Pennsylvania. The B&O right of way with occasional vine-clad signal towers suggested a more leisured day of transport.
In the fullest panoply of splendor, double shotted for a heavy consist and with the train name on the sidewalls of the Pullman combine Capitol Hill, the Baltimore & Ohio's Train No. 6, The Capitol Limited with locomotives No. 5331 and 5232 on the point forms a sparkling portrait of steam varnish operations in the year 1930. The tracks here cross the Chicago River at Roosevelt Road during a river straightening project and the disused pilings and stringers of an older trestle in the foreground and ice floes in the river give the scene a Christmas card chill.
Framed in a stately doorway of classic design and a ceiling freize of looped wreaths that would have been acceptable in the décor of any of the Adam restaurants of the world's Ritz hotels, this Baltimore & Ohio dining car steward on The Capitol Limited in white waistcoat of office and blue and gold livery jacket was the glass of fashion at a time when he represented the mobile amenities of life in their fullest dimension.
The Baltimore & Ohio's Cincinnatian, a much photographed varnish haul because of its timing on the mountain grades in Western Maryland and spectacular combination of steam and streamlining that characterized its consists, was a coach-only daylight train between Baltimore-Washington and the Cincinnati of its name. Placed in service immediately after the 1941 war, two President class Pacifics were streamlined for its motive power at the carrier's Mt. Clair shops.
A man walks into the psychiatrist's office with a pancake on his head, fried eggs on each shoulder, and a strip of bacon over each ear.
The shrink, humoring him, asks, "What seems to be the problem?"
The guy answers, "Doc, I'm worried about my brother."
Even though the bar at "Our" Place isCLOSED on Sundays - We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!Now playing at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . Sunday, January 21st thru 27th: The Longest Yard (1974) Starring: Burt Reynolds, Eddie Albert, Ed Lauter, Michael Conrad & James Hampton - and - Brian's Song (1971) Starring: James Caan, Billy Dee Williams, Jack Warden, Bernie Casey & Shelley Fabares. SHORT: The Three Stooges - We Want Our Mummy (1939).
The Longest Yard (1974)
PLOT SUMMARY:
A sadistic warden asks a former pro quarterback, now serving time in his prison, to put together a team of inmates to take on (and get pummeled by) the guards. His dilemma is that the warden asks him to throw the game in return for an early release, but he is also concerned about the inmates' lack of self-esteem.
from: amazon.com
Brian's Song (1971)
Based on the real-life relationship between teammates Brian Piccolo and Gale Sayers and the bond established when Piccolo discovers that he is dying. Gale Sayers joins the Chicago Bears and is befriended by Brian Piccolo, an over-achieving running back. Although they compete for the same spot on the team, and despite the fact that Sayers is black and Piccolo white, they become roommates on the road and very close friends, especially when Sayers is injured and Piccolo helps his recovery. Later, they and their wives must both deal with the harsh reality of Piccolo's cancer.
SHORT: We Want Our Mummy (1939)PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly
The Stooges are detectives hired by a museum curator to find the kidnapped Professor Tuttle and the mummy of King Rutentuten. The boys hail a taxi at the cost of $2,198.55 to Cairo. When they find the tomb, the boys encounter crooks who are also after the mummy. The mummy they thought was Rutentuten was really his wife, Queen HotsyTotsy. It turns out King Rutentuten was a midget.
from: threestooges.net
Enjoy! Tom
Hi again from snowy blowy Chicagoland. Great choices for our films at the Emporium Tom. Two fine films ... yesindeedy, and one in particular in the spirit of today's Bear playoff (kickoff in less than 2 hours). The Stooge short looks to be a good one too
Getting away from the B&O, here are some more pix from this area:
The Chicago & New Orleans Limited, when it was the pride of the Illinois Central's long-run fleet.
In 1911, when the Illinois Central renamed its Chicago & New Orleans Limited, the Panama Canal, like the Erie Canal before it, was still "The Work of the Age" and the railroad was quick to cash in on its prestige by naming its new train for it. In 1916 The Panama Limited became all-Pullman with a surcharge that was refunded if it was more than an hour late. So venerated was this varnish run that in Vaiden, Mississippi, court was recessed daily so everyone could see its passage through town. The new Orleans décor in the bar is, of course, from the streamlined Panama
In one of the Panama's rare operations double-headed, it approaches Chicago over the I.C.'s electrified suburban trackage in 1937.
The Panama Limited in the closing years of steam presented a fine appearance in the I.C. depot at Chicago against a background of Coca-Cola and Seagram's whiskey, neither of which, it may be imagined, were big sellers in its magnificently resourceful bars.
A carrier whose patrician antecedents and venerable age allowed its indulgence in mild eccentricities, the Illinois Central, until it was eliminated as part of the Lake Front Improvement Program, maintained in its Van Buren Street suburban depot in Chicago what may have been the only octagon railroad station in the record. The structure was built in 1879 and looked like this in 1896, a matchless tribute to architectural whimsy and defiance of conformity.
The I.C.'s trains at Browns, Illinois, all stopped at the Southern Railway crossover to open a gate before crossing the right of way of the competition.
A man goes to the doctor and says, "Doc, I ache all over. Everywhere I touch it hurts."
The doctor says, "OK. Touch your elbow."
The guy touches his elbow and winces in genuine pain. The doctor, surprised, says "Touch your head."
The guy touches his head and jumps in agony. The doctor asks him to touch his knee and the same thing happens. Everywhere the guy touches he hurts like hell. The doctor is stumped and orders a complete examination with X-rays, etc. and tells the guy to come back in two days.
Two days later the guy comes back and the doctor says "We've found your problem."
"Oh yeah? What is it?"
"You've broken your finger!"
How's the grilled cheese here???
barndad Great station pics! I like the finger joke, a good old vaudville standby!!!
underworld
Grilled cheese is for Greenbay games ... for obvious reasons!
Glad you liked the pix and dopey joke
Even though "Our" Place is
CLOSED on SUNDAY's -
We do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!
An ENCORE! from Page 161 of the "old" Thread back on Nov 13th, 2005!
Here are some Pix of my newly arrived "Red Bird" subway cars that somehow wound up on the Can-Am Railroad! What's this at Union Station? Looks like subway cars! They ARE subway cars! Why are subway cars here? Subway cars at "Our" Place? Subway cars ARE at "Our" Place! Subway cars at Can-Am Gorge! Subway cars at Land-Between-the-Lakes! Subway cars in the mountains! That's it - Enjoy!
siberianmo The station is great....is it from a kit? I like the subway in the mountains....looks like something I would do.
Hi Tom and all.
I had better have something from BORIS and then one of DOUG's Sheyboygan Brats.
MIKE Another great set of links. starting with LMS No 10000, Long Island steam locos, early Alcos and those wonderful old pictures of the B&O. Not forgetting the Rocket RDC and that great pic looking down on the 2-6-6-6 loco on the turntable.
ERIC Thanks for more details on the scanner. I am surprised that one of the American railways did not attempt a speed record with steam traction. I guess they though it was better left to the mad Brits.
May I say a to DAVE.
DOUG Three great picture posts and brats as well.
It is not much talked about nowadays but as you say the depression in the early 30s was a terrible time to live through on both sides of the Atlantic. I have heard tales of a Grandfather who cycled 20 miles each way in the hope of half a days work, we are very lucky today.
With the great distances in North America the railways cannot compete with the airlines for the long distant passenger, but it stands a far greater chance in Europe.It will be interesting to see when the High Speed link from London to mainland Europe opens this year if it will take over the vast majority of passengers from the airlines as they are predicting. It will depend on the cost, no doubt the airlines will offer very cheap fares when the line first opens.
Many thanks for the posts on the B&O. Great photos with great descriptions, with some gems like the hand-switched mainline points,the insides of those great cars. It is hard to believe that the bar in the Panama is on a railroad car.Good to see a pic on the inside of that busy tower and you a.can almost hear those double-headed steam locos in a snowy Chicago in the second selection.
GO BEARS.
TOM. Time does seem to have flown by since this time last week we were getting ready to watch the football at your house..
It seems the weather this year is saving itself for weekends. We had little more snow than St Louis it seems but I have shovelled the path and made a landing pad on the road for the bride when she gets back. The dog enjoyed going out this morning and wanted to go much farther than I thought she would, still it wasn't cold.
It really would be great to go to Alaska and ride the rails with you two.
I am looking forward to the two Football films on at the Emporium this week as I have not seen either, they sound great films.The Stooges sound their usual entertaining selves, loved the Rutentuten and Queen Hotsy Totsy names of the Mummies..
Great to see the Can-Am photo encore. It seems it was only last week I saw it running, although we did not have the Subway Cars in action they certainly seem to look at home on the Can-Am.
For Alan's pics this week.The two locos featured spent their working life hauling what the railways were first built for, hauling coal. A thank you to CM3 for the report of the Emporium bash.
The loco in the first two pics was built by Kitson's of Leeds in 1904 an 0-6-2 tank loco for the Lambton Collieries in the North East of England. On the nationalization of the coal industry after the second world war it worked for the National Coal Board. The NCB had running powers over the BR line from Penshaw to the colliery's own staithes at Sunderland Docks.After they closed the loco stayed on NCB metals until saved for preservation.
T
Monday and "it" begins all over! Take the time to have a hot mug of coffee with us, some pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and perhaps a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from the Menu Board!
Not the most active Sunday, but not all that bad either. The NFL playoffs had to factor in, along with our reduced numbers. Thanx in large measure to barndad Doug and his vintage Pix ‘n narratives, we were treated to another special spate of Classic Trains info from our Illinois connection.
Good stuff from Wolfman Pete as well and then - we were truly CLOSED!
From trolleyboy Rob via Email:
I was quite impressed by Doug's and Lar's and your's and Pete's recounts of the recent train trips etc. Let the gang know that I've been enjoying reading along with the eurorail and steam that you and Pete and DL have been chating back in forth about. Looks like you've had a fairly productive week post quality wise at the very least.I'll head off for now. Not to worry I'll keep trying to access the forum. I've actually tried a few other peolples computers with no luck, so it must be a file issue at Kalmbach or something.maybe I've po'd them some how. Gotta runRob
I've actually tried a few other peolples computers with no luck, so it must be a file issue at Kalmbach or something.maybe I've po'd them some how. Gotta runRob
Question asked by a "browser" regarding my Pix: those station platforms are kit bashed from a Walthers Cornerstone series offering. Although not in that particular Pix, there is a Union Station structure as well. Thanx for the kind words, "underworld."
It's history now - Da Bears ‘n Da Colts will square off in Miami for Super Bowl XLI on February 4th. I never "bet" with my "heart," so I'm picking the Colts. Sorry Doug - they've got the better quarterback and that's about "it" from where I sit. Was really surprised at the Patriots collapse yesterday, especially after racking up such a large lead. Again, it was NOT my "heart" speaking, simply what I would've put money on. I like the match ups for the "big show" and it's good to see "new blood" in it. Then it will be OVER, as in DONE, aka: FINISHED!
The walk around the mean streets of our subdivision was quite different this AM than yesterday. What's left of the snow is on the grassy areas, the rest is water. Juneau found each ‘n every patch of white stuff to romp through. Ah, the joys of an early morning trek with the Husky from Hades! <grin>
10,000th Post CONTEST update (in order of submission):
(to reach ten thousand, we take the final number of Replies (Posts) - 9013 - on the "old" Thread and add the number on the "new")
Feb 14th - BK
Feb 15th - Lars
Mar 12th - Pete
Jan 1st - James
Jan 28th - Eric
Jan 18th - DL
Feb 8th - Doug
Jan 31st - Rob
Mar 15th - CM3
En joy the day!
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Cheers to the victors!
For Chicago 'n the Bears!
For Indianapolis 'n the Colts!
Enjoy!
Hello Tom and all in
I'll have coffee and a pastry please.
Seems to have been quite busy over the last day or so round here. My latest copy of Classic Trains appeared with the mail on Saturday - some good reading matter there.
Anyway, enough sport, back to the matters in hand!
James - liked the Milwaukee Road Baltic pictures, a machine with a stylish profile, interesting stuff on the Big Boy too - they are famous here as Pete mentions, but I didn't know much about them - I do now!
CM3 - thanks for the info on the O W Link sound recordings, maybe I'd better get saving. I've enjoyed browing the museum website:
http://www.linkmuseum.org/
This is what it says about the CDs:
"O. Winston Link's "Sounds of Steam Railroading, Volumes 1-6" series has been digitally re-mastered and restored. The five CD box set includes Sounds of Steam Railroading (1957), The Fading Giant (1957), Thunder on Blue Ridge (1958), 2nd Pigeon and the Mockingbird (1961), The General (1962, 45rpm), and Mainline to Panther (1977). Each CD has an enclosed booklet describing the track sounds and many Link images."
I've got a CD of sound recorded on the famous Settle to Carlisle railway line in England in the late 1960s, much from Dent Station and the area around there in what are called the Pennine Hills ("The backbone of England"). Sounds good when you put it on the stereo!
Eric - yes the Uppsala to Narvik via Kiruna run was a long haul - we overnighted in a couchette car as I recall. There is a lot of forest in Sweden was my conclusion from that journey! Plenty of interest to see though. Weather been bad though, that airliner film you mentioned was on our news too. I don't think I would have wanted to have been on board.
Doug, good to read your weekend submissions, with a welcome return to action of the ‘groan-o-meter'!
Mike, some great colour pictures there, Long Island RR pics were especially good I thought.
Tom, thanks for the update on the posting date competition, I had a feeling I was going to miss out!
Lars - yes, when the power is out you don't need to worry with proper English beer, as it is pumped from the cellar by hand powered pump, and the cellar should stay cool naturally - no need for refrigeration (or if you are really lucky it comes straight from the barrel by gravity) - no power, no problem!
Pete - I don't know much about scanning slides, but a pal of mine said he thought you could just put them on the glass scanning panel (so you need a ‘flat bed scanner') and it would work, he offered to do this for me for a slide I needed scanned and the results were rather good. Of course it has the advantage of ensuring that problems like photographic dies fading / degrading are overcome, but the disadvantage that future ‘improvements' in computer software etc might make current digitally made files incapable of being read by computers in the future. However, it certainly seems to be a way of giving new life to old slides that otherwise don't get seen by many people.
Driving your burning railcar under a water column is smart thinking! Nowadays no doubt the whole area would be evacuated with commensurate inconvenience to all and sundry.
The Brunswick in Derby is a fine pub, and for other readers has, I believe, the status of being one of the first purpose built railway pubs, having been built to serve the housing that was built for workers at the original Midland Railway Locomotive works. The whole area was derelict by the 1970s and scheduled for demolition but luckily people lobbied for the restoration of these houses and the pub and it is a fine achievement (can't find a photo to show you). I also like The Alexandria just beyond the Bruswick. This pub has some interesting railway memorabilia (signs and official photographs etc) up on the walls. Both pubs serve an excellent range of beers and I usually call in if I need to change trains at this junction station. Of course sometimes I miss the first connection....
That is a minor problem I expect happens for some customers at Our Place too...
Regards
DL
Now Arriving on Track #1
Named Trains Living in Song!
Number One - The Orange Blossom Special
Orange Blossom Special (passenger train)
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G'day Cap'n Tom & fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth, you are looooooooooooookin' mighty fine! I'll have a Piels with a Lars special, ham ‘n Swiss - mustAHd ‘n buttAH, two large pickles from the barrel and a saucer of brine for Tex, a seed tray for Awk, a tray of ice cubes for Frostbite and a small jar of pickled pig's feet for Boris! And yes, keep the change my deAH!
What's THIS Rumors abound regarding fair Ruth and I, man of virtue! <grin> I'll have you know that I was in the clutches grip hold grasp loving care of the Mrs. all weekend and have WITNESSES to prove it! <geesh> Anyway, what in the world would a lovely young thing such as Ruth want with a mothballed relic such as I Far better pickin's to be found. <groan>
Football has one more Sunday to go with a week "off" until the overly hyped "thing" we call the Super Bowl. I must be really old, for I still recollect "the" game of the year being the NFL Championship, which was played in December. Now we wait ‘til February to find out who is the "winnAH"! <double groan>
Thought the Chicago game was really a disappointment, although the outcome pleased me - a Jints fan. Didn't think much of the quarterback and thought for sure he was going to lose the game for ‘em. The Indy game was a surprise in that I really thought the Pats were going to take ‘em. As with Tom, I have no particular "dog in the hunt" but figured New England to win it. Actually, they could have had not some ‘dropsies" entered the game. That guy should be sent packing - dropped a sure touchdown and also one that would've been a sure-fire 1st down at a critical time. So, not to denigrate the Colts, but the Pats gave it away in spite of your fine efforts! Just my not-so-humble take on it. <grin>
Looks as if I didn't miss too much since my last visit, although there were some exemplary efforts put forth by Doug to keep things moving on Saturday ‘n Sunday. A five- Salute to you, barndad!
Very good to see you about the decks and hope that in absence of a Monday thru Friday routine, we can look forward to the weekends with you.
Nice work, as always, Tom, in keeping us on course. We have an outstanding support cast of Pete ‘n Eric to keep things alive ‘n well during these puzzling times of drought.
Sure a strange thing with Rob, but happy to know he's at least able to view us. Thought that he was totally "locked out." Nice of Tom to keep him in the "know" and providing the relay services.
Been quite a few e-mails flying about and I've made my thoughts known. Let's go for the move! This stuff has gone far enough.
Tom, that new feature of yours is 4.0! Outstanding, Cap'n - simply outstanding. Classic Trains in songs! Yes, there have to be many out there. Like the idea. A 5- Salute to you Sir!
Nice way to kick off a Monday . . . Orange Blossom Special! Old Johnny Cash had a big hit with that one; can still hear him singing it . . .
Those subway cars of yours are terrific to look at. You also have a set of "brown" ones if I recollect, huh You're going to have to get a move on to construct that subway of yours B4 the Rendezvous! Otherwise, you'll nevAH live it down! <grin>
I see that DL has been aboard on this day and I'm not quite sure just how much he's viewed. Nevertheless, this place wouldn't be the same without our ‘cross the pond Brit being with us to kick off the week!
Tom, also liked those two Pix of yours in tribute to Chicago ‘n Indianapolis. Quite innovative of you, but then again, we already knew that! Also, fine selections for the movies at the Emporium! Saw 'em both and they're a good "fit"!
Doug, those spreads of yours on the vintage photos and accompanying details were simply terrific. For a guy operating on limited time, you surely went a bit overboard for us. I appreciated and enjoyed it all; hope the others have as well.
Not sure whether we have two new guys or not, but we'll see how it plays out. All it takes is to review page one to get the gist of how we operate, then go from there. Also noted some activity over on Tom's "other thread" - especially from Doug and the two "new" guys. Could it be . . . .
‘Nuf for now . . . one more Ruth - make it a Schaefer!
Until the next time!
Lars
A pint of Bateman's Bitter please RUTH.
I see ERIC as well as ROB is having problems with the Forum . At least ROB can still view the posts but it is not the same without you two.
DL Thanks for the link to the O.Winston Link museum, a great website with plenty of information and well worth reading. The photo of the steam loco passing the drive in cinema named "the Hotshot Eastbound" must be the most well known steam railroad photograph. There is a print of this on the wall of the TrainWreck Saloon.Roanoak looks well worth a visit with the Virginia Transportation Museum as well as the Link Museum.
What is the Settle & Carlisle CD called. I had a LP with some of the recordings from the S&C as well as some on the Lickey Incline. Great Sounds.
Is seems as though are getting good service from Kalmbach with the delevery of the Classic Trains mag. I have a couple of British Magazines on subscription here but they seem to be taking longer and longer to get here, it seems 14 days at least is the norm. I see they go through Switzerland or Germany to get here. There is not a lot wrong with the mail service between England and the U.S. as my friend has sent me a magazine sized parcel which took only 5 days to get here. GRRRRR.
Yes it is good that there are two good pubs next to each other at Derby. Is the Alexandria still selling the Bateman ales The Brunswick pub is indeed an interesting building with small rooms off the bar area.
One one steam trip with ex Southern Railway West Country Pacific No 34027 'Taw Valley', the loco took water at Derby on a north bound run. We could see the loco from the Brunswick and as there was a problem taking the water we stayed in the pub until we saw the loco move off to couple back on to our train. A quick dash back to the station and we made it. It was a winter day and as we left Derby it started snowing and by the time we reached Sheffield it was a blizzard. The train was due to go to Leeds but it was decided to stop at Sheffield where the steam loco was left as it had to go further north and we returned home by diesel which had been sent from Leeds where it had been waiting for us. Despite missing a part of our trip it was still a great day travelling by steam through the snow and having extra time in the Brunswick.
Thanks for the info on the scanner, it will be good to get some of the slides on disc and be able to share them.
LARS Great to see you after the weekend. I must admit I thought the Pats v Colts was a good game. I see the U.S soccer team had a good 3-1 win against Denmark on Saturday .
As you say they were some great posts by DOUG.
TOM As Lars says a really great idea on the "Named Trains Living In Song", a worthy arrival on Track #1. There was a local band near my home town who used to play the song as an instrumental on the guitar at the end of the night. It is good to see they used the correct name on the box-car on the album sleeve, in the UK this detail more likely would have been missed.Great history of the train too., although the train stopped running in 1953.
Great posters for the Superbowl finalists. I wonder if the Union Station in Indianapolis is still there, it looks a fine building.
There is still a fair bit of snow about here although the roads were kept clear. The bride thought that we had twice the amount of snow here than where she was in St Louis.
Talk of the Superbowl made me try to look up some info on the special trains that were run to London in connection of the (soccer) F.A. Cup Final in the last years that they would have been steam hauled around the early 1960s, but have not
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon! Still awake!? No, just a cup of coffee! Thank you! Keep the change.
After missing the Sunday, busy during the day and couldn't get to the forum in the evening, it is nice to be back at Our Place! A pretty good Sunday I would say!
Phoenix was real cold yesterday. Snow fell and covered the ground in several locations throughout the Valley. Brrr. Freeze warning until 9 am Tuesday morning.
Doug – You worked hard this weekend!! Thank you!! A lot of interesting reading and nice pictures! Interesting reading about B & O! I like the picture of the interior of Tower K in Washington. The interior looks different now but I guess the outside has not changed much. See picture below. B & O had real nice looking diners. Too bad they are not in service these days. Van Buren Street depot in Chicago certainly was a different kind of building! They should have saved it (maybe moved it to a different location. Brat-wurst is not my favorite. But it is much better tasting than sauerkraut.
K-Tower at the end of the platform.
Tom – Ruth ‘n Lars? Hmm, I don’t know. We’ll see what kind of story he has to tell next time. Arizona needs a refinery! They talk about building one but there is also a lot of opposition. The movies this week are unknown to me except We Want Our Mummy. But I am sure they are good!
Wow, are you running subway cars on the Can-Am Railrod? Does FRA know it? I can see that those cars stopped next to Our place! Did Boris get a ride?Very nice layout!! I am afraid I will not win the 10,000th Post Contest. I am for Chicago Bears!!Thanks for the Orange Blossom Special! I always learning something new! Not the song, but the background! Pete – Maybe you are right. Milwaukee Road decided not to attempt any speed records because they wanted to be nice to those crazy Brits!? But they certianly had very fast service between Minneapolis and Chicago! Nice pictures of those steam locomotives! I wonder if I have seen the first one in a movie? I kind of recognize it. DL – Yes, there is a lot of forest in Sweden. I used to live in a small loghouse in the forest and that is what I miss the most here in Phoenix, the Swedish forest! Lars – Rumors? No smoke without fire you know. Or was it just some dust? But I won’t say anything (if I find out).
Next stop Fort Ticonderoga, NY (on the way to Plattsburgh)!
A place known to Tom and Pete, Springfield, IL.
Eric
A clear day emerging here in mid-continent USA as Tuesday begins in earnest. Why not join us here at the Bar by the Ballast for a start-up cuppa Joe, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from the Menu Board
What a day we had yesterday, ended rather early as the customers seemed to be elsewhere - the drought continues.
However, accentuating the positive, there were some who frequented our premises:
DL at 11:12 AM yesterday: The proximity of "Our" Place to the dual-main lines of the Can-Am Railway makes us an ideal spot to relax while waiting for the next train. Of course, there is NO station stop here, just a "flag stop" and that hasn't been used in ages! Wonder why
There are remnants of what once was in this part of Missouri insofar as housing, taverns and bawdy houses for the railroad employees. A friend of mine who is a walking-talking encyclopedia when it comes to streetcars and railways in St. Louis took me on a driving tour of places I never knew existed. Pointed out this ‘n that structure with all kinds of inside information about them. There's not much left to the infrastructure of rail that once rivaled that of Chicago. Torn up and sold for scrap. Sad.
Lars at 1:55 PM yesterday: The return of the LarsMan! You were missed while gone for your long weekend. No "bookcovers" for Sunday, no encouraging words and of course, no banter at the bar from one of our favorite customers! But that was then, and this is now!
You ‘n Ruth I could believe it! However, I gave her the day off well in advance - unless of course she contacted you to arrange for . . . . Hmmmmmmm. The keys to the Penthouse Suite were missing for the day. Hmmmmmmmm. <grin>
Yes, there are four more subway cars for the "system" I have yet to construct. Those Pix were put forth some months back. All of the cars are on display within one of my wall mounted cases. Someday I'll just have to get a ROUNDTUIT!
Wondering now if Eric's absence has anything to do with the crap that Rob is putting up with. Haven't checked the AM Email yet . . . . Really need to get outta here and onto a site whereby we can have dependability when it comes to access and the like. Has been most discouraging . . .
Pete at 4:45 PM yesterday: Yours was the final Post of the day! Good to see ya, as always.
Glad you enjoyed the latest in my "series" of stuff. Feel free to drop off suggestions and I'll see if I can dig up info for a future submission. Only criteria is to find a "visual" to go along with the narrative. I've got three of ‘em put together and there are many others waiting . . .
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Sorry about the silence yesterday, but the forum would not let me view pictures or post for that matter. Pictures were either blank or 1/4" wide and filling up the page. It seems to be doing much better today.
Mike sent some interesting pictures. The FA demonstrater was a keeper and I enjoyed the shot of the CN FPA4 in original paint. The first H8 picture was probably shot between Deepwater and Mt. Carbon, WV. The VGN crossed over the C&O at Deepwater on a bridge to its interchange with the NYC on the north side of the river. IOW, the photographer was at the far north end of the VGN. The second shot (overhead) was, I think taken at Russell, KY. There are larger versions of that shot around, but I don't have my C&O stuff with me. The last picture was just west of Thurmond, WV. Maybe our 'steamed propritor will show the movie "Matewan" at the Theatuh; not the best mining movie in the world, but a lot of it was shot in and around Thurmond which will give you a flavor of the area. Well worth a visit if you have never been there.
Bardad's Brats (what a concept - served out of the back of a DeSoto; the franchising possibilities are endless. Good B&O material, too.
Pete - Thanks for the comments and the pictures.
Eric - The AEM7 shot in DC brought some memories back. I always liked the combination of E8s from different ropads mixed in with PRR GG1s, and the WUTs RS1s.
Our 'Steamed Proprietor provided some cogent sporting commentaries, and a good selection of football-related movies; I think the first version of the Longest Yard (presently showing) was the best of 'em. Before I forget, see if you can find a copy of the ACL/SAL Historical Society's book on Orange Blossom. It's on one of the shelves in the east wing - good material -you'd enjoy it, I think. Also, Richard Prince's book on SAL Power has a lot on the Orange Blossom as well.
Again, my apologies for not "vistin" yesterday - let's see if this will post.
work safe
Profound apologies to Eric! Absolutely did NOT see your Post when I logged in this AM - even used the Refresh/Reload feature (as I ALWAYS do!!). These oddities with the Forums are designed to drive us all mad, if not away. Surely wish those who made these "improvements" would look into whatever in the Ether is screwing up what used to be relatively easy access, etc. <groan> <double groan>
So, you made it "in" after all, and your 1:12 AM Post is a welcomed sight, fer sure, fer sure! Figured your absence on Sunday had to do with the ongoing nightmare a few of the guys have been experiencing.
Ever think of it this way, regarding where you now reside, it's a totally ARTIFICIAL habitat for humans. Meaning, deserts pretty much are arid and unfit for the way of life we've all become accustomed to. So, the creation of cities, infrastructures and the like for those of us who walk upright depends totally on altering climate and the delivery of water not otherwise found in these places. Phoenix is such a place. May very well be a wonderful place to reside, but no thanx for Moi! <grin> Snow! Aren't you fortunate!!
I prefer good ole American hot dogs to brats, and I prefer ‘em WITH sauerkraut! <burp>
Really some wonderful shots - Amtrak electrified, cab shot ‘n X2000 in Springfield, IL - many THANX! Pete ‘n I have been discussing a trip to Springfield for a "turn around" on Amtrak from St. Louis. Would be a great destination for us all during the Rendezvous too. However, would chew up the greater part of a day plus would require a very early reveille! More by Email in "next" report . . .
Thought you had already seen the Can-Am HO layout Pix over on the "old" Thread. Hmmmm. No sweat - I'll be providing some ENCORE! material here ‘n there as we proceed onward over here. Subway cars were simply "demos" for Pix taking and not a permanent feature for above ground operations. There will be a subway constructed beneath the area that is encompassed by my "city" scene. Have all the materials, but not the "get up ‘ go." Motivation seems to be coming in bits ‘n pieces these days (daze)! <groan>
CM3 at 8:45 AM today: Thought maybe the "feds" had come up with yet another Monday holiday! <grin> Et tu Shane The Cyber Gremlins from Kalmbach are EVERYWHERE! There's no escaping ‘em. Boris, haul out the cannon, prepare to repel boarders, man the rails, splice the mainbrace (now THAT's a good idea!!) and take no prisoners!
Your wish is my command, Sir! Check this coming Sunday's Emporium bill o' fare! Thanx for the recommendation - helps!
My guess is that Lars will beat me to the punch with those book recommendations! However, I'll surely look ‘em up. My modest collection of hardcover RR books are all focused on passenger equipment, with one RR Station - Depot - Terminal book "allowed." However, my guess is I'll become addicted to this facet of the hobby as well, primarily due to associating with you guys! <grin>
Any help you can muster up with regard to the Email conversations flying around concerning the moving of the bar will most definitely be appreciated. We've got the consensus - all we need now is the green light for a destination. Email, if you please.
Good to see the both of you this AM - and Boris will rustle up breakfasts of choice for ya. Just place the order . . .
Tom =
Well, the flag stop must be handy if people want to get off here Tom, so surely some strangers wander into town from time to time, like myself for example, and make use of it!
Anyway, pint of bitter please, and a cheese sandwich if possible.
Thanks for your comments Lars, yes I think I've read through all the posts (although I confess to only scanning over the ones about US sports as they seem to be written in some sort of code I can't understand <grin>). Yes, I see you have been discussing the move to another place off the ether - and I'm not part of that due to the failure of my e-mail to be working. I'm sure you guys will have weighed up the pros and cons of that - I suppose the only thing would be to try it for a while (maybe in parallel) just to check the alternative is actually better than the present option with regard to access, missing posts, formatting, picture viewing, etc. What, you say you have discussed all that already - fair enough, didn't think it would take me to think of that first!
Eric - Phoenix must feel very different to Sweden!
Pete, yes, I'd like to make it to the Roanoke museum some day - it looks good. I recall Channel 4 made a good documentary about O W Link some years back, which was very interesting (I have both of his 2 books), in that documentary I seem to recall it explained that the famous picture of the drive in movie scene with loco in the back ground was ‘set up' in that the couple in the picture were his assistant and a friend, and the aircraft on the screen was added in later in the studio (the actual film image not being very interesting) - I make no complaint about that - I think the picture is superb, great photography, great art in fact.
I can't recall the exact title of the S&C sound CD, I'll have to look it up. It is one of series no doubt recorded by the same chap. I recall one was a recording of trams in some city in the north of England, and another steam at an NCB colliery I think. I see looking on the web there are quite a few such CDs available, some re-issues of the old ‘Transacord' Vinyl records that I note are advertised in the early 1960s Trains Illustrated magazines I have been reading which my pal leant me.
Yes, Bateman's is still available at the Alexandria - I think it is the ‘house beer' of the Tynemill chain who run a number of pubs across the area. That was a tight one on the steam special at Derby, I don't think I'd have risked it!
Cheerio
PS CM3 - I was watching Matewan on TV not so long ago - as you say, film has its limitations but it tells a story of interesting events, and the scenery is good too.
Here's something to consider for our beer stock:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/22/ap/strange/mainD8MQBT000.shtml
I see DL has made it "in" today. Just as we were getting accustomed to his early AM visits, he's changed to noon-ish! Either is perfectly fine with us - just keep Tilla & Cashinator making those wonderful sounds! <KaChing KaChing> A thought! That term is used here in 2007, but when was the last time anyone actually heard a cash register make it Further, when is the last time anyone has actually seen a mechanical register in use Hmmmmmmmm. Kinda like making reference to "dialing a number" when we all push button these days! <grin>
The last time a stranger "wandered in" to Mentor Village was when Leon arrived. Hired him on the spot! Labor is rather scarce in these parts!
We have one road in 'n out, two mainlines and a Zeppelin terminal - that's it! <grin> Used to have a ski lift up to Majestic Mount Mentor, but it was short lived as it seems the 'slopes' are more like sheer drops into the abyss below. Not "user friendly" at all! <oooooh> Another ill fated project undertaken by Vito the Hit 'n his Boyz from New YaWk.
Just ordered Matawan from amazon.com - sounds like the kinda flick we'd enjoy in our Haus.
Moving of the bar: Nothing will occur until everything at the other end is firmed up. Not planning on any general referrals from this site as we're more inclined to establish a "pay as you go" Forum - details will be via Email.
Forums problems: I've shipped off an Email to the Forum Manager in hopes that someone may be able to look into these problems our crew has been putting up with. Surely other Forums must be equally impacted. I specifically made mention of four of our guys having an assortment of problems (no access - no tool bar - no viewing of photos - formatting problems, etc.) So, guys - ensure you are telling Kalmbach about the problems and not just venting. Really - as exasperating as it is, keep the info flow going to them.
JUST IN: Received a response from "Bergie" - he wants to know if those of you experiencing difficulties are using the "new Internet Explorer 7" . . . So, be sure to let him know! Thanx!
Thought you'd all enjoy these two additions to the imagery 'round the joint:
Herr Wurltizer!
Coal Scuttle! (holds the quarters for Herr Wurlitzer)
Ruth, give 'em a drink on Moi! Boris, ring the gong!
G'day Cap'n Tom & fellow travelers the bar!
Ruth, a tankard of Keiths Ale if you please along with treats for the critters and a small jar of pickled pig's feet for Boris! Nice looking "juke" - Herr Wurlitzer is looking mighty fine as is the Coal Scuttle! Fine additions to the images of "Our" Place!
Not to worry Bossman, haven't had the time to do much perusing today, so those Orange Blossom Special books are yours for the taking!
Before I totally forget, I have a recommendation for ALL who are or who have recently experienced problems on the forums. Send your info to Bergie, the Forum's Manger. Tom is absolutely on the money with this. Relief can only come if they know of the situations, even if the notices have to be repeated. It's only e-mail, so what's the big deal, huh <grin>
I'm using the most current Internet Explorer ver. 7 with all updates loaded. To find out what yours is, simply use the "help" button on your browswer and you'll find it.
Glad to see that Eric made it back for an early, early morning appearance. CM3 I'm NOT Shane! came by (I too thought about a Monday Holiday! <grin>) and DL with a "nooner," so all's well at the Saloon by the Siding.
DL, surely would be a shame to lose you should we in fact pull up stakes for a move elsewhere. Don't know what the "deal" is with e-mail, but I'm sure your reasons are valid and of course personal. Just wish you'd consider opening up a "freebie" if not just for this thread. That way we could get the word out to you. Anyway,on a different mattter: If you are experiencing any kind of problems with the forums - let us know here, and I'll send Bergie an e-mail. I recall your telling us some time ago over on the "old thread" that you couldn't view all of the pix. Is that still happening? If so, whose?
Nice pix from you, Eric and I'll take the "5th" on any comments regarding Fair Maiden Ruth and the allegations linking me with her on her day off. You guys are a tough crowd. <grin>
Just wanted to drop off a blurb or three, if for no other reason than to keep things movin' today!
Here's a couple of steamers, just for nostalgia's sake:
MP #5308 4-8-2 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com) (photo: Paul Eilenberger)
MP #1420 2-8-2 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com) (photo: Paul Stringhamn)
A pint of Holdens Mild please Ruth to keep Tilla and the Cashinator in full working order.
ERIC
Great pic of # 953. We had the class of loco on our trip from Providence to Boston, do you know how many locos there are in this class.
Glad you liked the picsI dont know of any movie No 29 was in, but as it has done a lot of work on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway, especially in the lines early days so it may well have been featured in a film.
It is good to see how many people turned out to see the X2000. Springfield does look a good town to spend some time in as did Lincoln a bit further up the line towards Chicago.
CM3 Sorry you had problems with the forum yesterday.
Glad you liked the pics. I meant to ask yesterday, have you been to the two museums in Roanoake. It would be good to hear your impressions of them .
DL.I seem to recall seeing a documentary on O. Winston Link, as you say quite a few years ago now.If I recall right in the documentary, they used to last of O.W.L.s flashbulbs to recreate one of his classic night photos. I agree it is more than photography and it is art.
Have you seen the books by the British photographer Colin T Gifford..His Decline of Steam from 1965 along with Each A Glimpse from 1971 are regarded as two of the best British steam photo albums.
In those 1960s TIs I dare say some of the adverts for Transacord records are for the EPs they done as well as the LPs. A friend of mine had the EP titled 'D for Diesels'. It must have came out in the early or mid 60s and featured the early classes like 10000, 10201 and D200s. I dare say the record is worth a fair bit of money today.
In the days of the Taw Valley trip, the water stops at Derby meant the loco had to go to a hydrant at the siding the north end of the station, opposite the Brunswick, so the loco had to go up the line and reverse back on to the train do a brake test and wait for the road.Still it there was a bit of a risk of missing the train.Still what better way to spend time than in a warm pub with good ale, snow falling outside and the sight of steam condensing in the cold air from a steam loco you were about to carry on your ride behind.
LARS Many thanks for the pics of those mighty Missouri Pacific steam locos.It was the Missouri Pacific that ran through Jefferson City before the line was taken over by Union Pacific.It must have been a wonderful sight to see one of those locos starting a heavy train out of the yard here or, better still, seeing one on a fast frieght at speed along side the Missouri River at Hermann. What price a time machine .
At the risk of tempting fate I am not having any problems with the forum at the moment, any probs I have been having is with the web and e-mail in general.. If I do get problems with the forum I will follow Tom and your advice and send a e-mail.
TOM I will be getting a complex if I keep being the last customer of the day.
It will be good to see the other railroad songs. I dont think there were that many songs that featured the railways of Britain. Although I can remember in the late 1950s or early 60s there was a music programme on TV that was on a 6:05 PM on a Saturday night whose theme music was called "The Six- Five Special" and showed some great railway scenes in steam days including in the cab of a loco going over the Forth Bridge. There was also "The Runaway Train" but I think this was an American song, although very popular in the UK.
Looking at the RR atlas I have, there is indeed at lot of railroad infrastructure that as gone in St Louis.
Are we going to get some of that Kwispel beer for the mascots. It is a good job it is non-alcoholic, imagine the ruckus. if it was about 6%ABV, after AWK, TEX and FROSTBITE had been on it for a while.
Great pics of Herr Wurlitzer and the Scuttle has a large quarter capacity.
In the encore of your poster I posted, on the pre WW1 West Coast train services to Scotland, which had the timings. I meant to add that after the 'Railway Races to the North in 1892 the West Coast and the East Coast lines came to an agreement to have 8 hours as the minimum time between London and Glasgow/Edinburgh. After the 1923 grouping of the British railway companies the LMS and the LNER kept this agreement until the early 1930s.
G-day Tom and all present!
Leon- Make it a coffee with a sandwich, Please.
Tom- OHH!!! Sorry there Tom, I must have missed the message where you would take over for the day.
I like how your layout looks. I know a guy who you would probably get a long with quite well. His name is Fred Soup, and he has probably the largest model railroad I have ever seen. He models Metra and Amtrak. He has modeled Chicago Union station with all 26 double slips. It's nuts. I will have to get some pictures of it for you when I go to Chicago in March.
I liked the colors of the Orange Blossom Special. That had to be quite a passenger train.
Mike- That is one of the biggest selection of pictures that I have seen from you. I really enjoyed it. The Hiawatha passenger trains where some wounderful looking passenger trains. Thanks.
Eric- That's the electric line I saw in Chicago. That electric locomotive you had picture was the exact locomotive I saw from the bridge. They look pretty cool. Thanks for picturing them. Do you know what they call those locos?
Barndad- You had some good pictures over this past weekend. Glad you got on. I really liked the inside of the Mount Royal depot. I wish the depots that were still around today were restorred to there original colors and look. That would be cool. I also liked the train going over the Roosevelt road bridge. That bridge is a classic. Made completely of wood and a passebger train going over it. What more would you want?
I also liked the picture of the Baltimore and Ohio Cincinnatian. That is one classy looking passemger train.
Pete- I liked the 0-6-2 Tanker steamer that you posted. I really like little switching steamers. Especially little steamers like that. Thanks.
DL- Glad you learned a little more about the Big Boy steamer. I have heard that this steamer is a world renouned steam locomotive. Glad you also liked the Hiawatha info. I liked it too.
Lars- Liked the steamer pics you had. Those locomotives are really nice looking. Thanks.
I wanted to see what you guys thought about one of my works in progress. I have been drawing this picture on the computer. I also do drawings. Just learned to do this with my technical drawing class. This is an actual picture that I am drawing. This is located out in North Dakota, in Casselton. This is located right outside of Fargo, ND. This was once the Northern Pacific. But, most know it as the BNSF. These signals still stand and are looking good. See what you think.
I have just added on to the orginal photo. I am now beginning on the back ground.
Happy railroading
James
I'll have a grilled cheese, a couple of dill pickle spears and a Heineken!!!
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